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Post by noetsi on Dec 8, 2022 21:57:47 GMT -5
When we opt out of all the good hitting free agents in the next five years it will be because of this and the Stanton contract.
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 8, 2022 22:08:39 GMT -5
When we opt out of all the good hitting free agents in the next five years it will be because of this and the Stanton contract. Who are all the good hitting players due to hit free agency in the next five years? Which players have the Yankees not gotten in free agency since Stanton has been on the books? Where are all these .300 hitting, base-stealing, contact-hitting players who do not strike out? |
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Post by inger on Dec 9, 2022 0:16:36 GMT -5
When we opt out of all the good hitting free agents in the next five years it will be because of this and the Stanton contract. Who are all the good hitting players due to hit free agency in the next five years? Which players have the Yankees not gotten in free agency since Stanton has been on the books? Where are all these .300 hitting, base-stealing, contact-hitting players who do not strike out? They are still being developed, or else hitting .255 because of the domination of pitching… |
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Post by bearman on Dec 9, 2022 11:39:22 GMT -5
Who are all the good hitting players due to hit free agency in the next five years? Which players have the Yankees not gotten in free agency since Stanton has been on the books? Where are all these .300 hitting, base-stealing, contact-hitting players who do not strike out? They are still being developed, or else hitting .255 because of the domination of pitching… Two good points there Inger. Only 11 players in baseball hit over .300 last year. I do believe we have several in development or perhaps ready that can hit above league average which was .243 this past year. Domination of pitching and other factors will probably mean, at least for the near future, that there will be few .300 hitters coming from the minor leagues. |
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Post by domeplease on Dec 9, 2022 15:13:47 GMT -5
I AGREE WITH FRANCESA!!! (but Judge MIGHT be just one of the few exceptions???).
...Judge signed a nine-year, $360 million contract to remain a Yankee Wednesday morning in a move that made many Yankees fans ecstatic.
However, former WFAN radio host Mike Francesa called the contract “extreme” on the latest episode of “The Mike Francesa Podcast.”
Francesa’s big qualm with the contract is how old Judge will be in its latter years.
“He’ll be 31 on Opening Day so this contract is an extreme contract. It’s a bad contract. The Yankees will pay dearly on this contract in years seven, eight and nine. I don’t think there’s any question about that,” Francesa said. “He will not be the same player, because nobody is. You don’t know how he’s gonna age, how gracefully he’s gonna age, how productively he’s gonna age. But the bottom line is he’s had injury problems and he’s gonna be 31 late April.”
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 9, 2022 15:33:35 GMT -5
I AGREE WITH FRANCESA!!! (but Judge MIGHT be just one of the few exceptions???).
...Judge signed a nine-year, $360 million contract to remain a Yankee Wednesday morning in a move that made many Yankees fans ecstatic.
However, former WFAN radio host Mike Francesa called the contract “extreme” on the latest episode of “The Mike Francesa Podcast.”
Francesa’s big qualm with the contract is how old Judge will be in its latter years.
“He’ll be 31 on Opening Day so this contract is an extreme contract. It’s a bad contract. The Yankees will pay dearly on this contract in years seven, eight and nine. I don’t think there’s any question about that,” Francesa said. “He will not be the same player, because nobody is. You don’t know how he’s gonna age, how gracefully he’s gonna age, how productively he’s gonna age. But the bottom line is he’s had injury problems and he’s gonna be 31 late April.”
Let's remember that Mike Francesa was also the guy stating that batters knowing what pitch is coming does not help them. Right, so why were the Astros stealing signs? The Yankees, I highly doubt, are expecting Judge to be the same hitter in the first five years of his contract, as the last four. From a revenue standpoint, Judge puts fans in the seats at home but especially on the road; his jersey and Yankee gear has been the most purchased for some time now; he keeps the Yankees in the playoff mix by returning; he will have a legacy that will provide Old Timers' Games interest, retrospectives, record chases, and the likely Captain moniker so YES viewership will continue to thrive; and other baseball talent would love to play with him, as he is as respected as any player in the game since Jeter. In hindsight, the contract that Bryce Harper signed looks pretty affordable right now, when it did not at the time. If pitchers are getting paid more than a million dollars per start, what is an everyday player of Judge's caliber worth? The Yankees have more revenue than any other team in MLB, so it's a silly point of argument ultimately. |
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Post by inger on Dec 9, 2022 16:36:30 GMT -5
I AGREE WITH FRANCESA!!! (but Judge MIGHT be just one of the few exceptions???).
...Judge signed a nine-year, $360 million contract to remain a Yankee Wednesday morning in a move that made many Yankees fans ecstatic.
However, former WFAN radio host Mike Francesa called the contract “extreme” on the latest episode of “The Mike Francesa Podcast.”
Francesa’s big qualm with the contract is how old Judge will be in its latter years.
“He’ll be 31 on Opening Day so this contract is an extreme contract. It’s a bad contract. The Yankees will pay dearly on this contract in years seven, eight and nine. I don’t think there’s any question about that,” Francesa said. “He will not be the same player, because nobody is. You don’t know how he’s gonna age, how gracefully he’s gonna age, how productively he’s gonna age. But the bottom line is he’s had injury problems and he’s gonna be 31 late April.”
Let's remember that Mike Francesa was also the guy stating that batters knowing what pitch is coming does not help them. Right, so why were the Astros stealing signs? The Yankees, I highly doubt, are expecting Judge to be the same hitter in the first five years of his contract, as the last four. From a revenue standpoint, Judge puts fans in the seats at home but especially on the road; his jersey and Yankee gear has been the most purchased for some time now; he keeps the Yankees in the playoff mix by returning; he will have a legacy that will provide Old Timers' Games interest, retrospectives, record chases, and the likely Captain moniker so YES viewership will continue to thrive; and other baseball talent would love to play with him, as he is as respected as any player in the game since Jeter. In hindsight, the contract that Bryce Harper signed looks pretty affordable right now, when it did not at the time. If pitchers are getting paid more than a million dollars per start, what is an everyday player of Judge's caliber worth? The Yankees have more revenue than any other team in MLB, so it's a silly point of argument ultimately. The fact is that there are no comps for Aaron Judge. His closest comp on BR is Brian Giles at 901.9. No one else even scores in the 900’s. So no real comps statistically. Few comps physically. There is no way to know if he’ll set another HR record in the future or never hit 40 again. Predicting the future is a fool’s errand. Francesca is therefore a fool, but paid to be one. He’s said his piece, earned his money. Nothing more to see there. Nothing but to wait for a future performance. Judge showed signs of improving his approach, something that many players never get the hang of. When they fail to change they become what we saw of Josh Donaldson last season. So here is the question that makes the most sense to me. Was Mantle the same in his late thirties? Willie Mays? Hank Aaron? Albert Pujols? The answer is a succinct no. But, did they find a way to make themselves useful. Mantle took more walks and had an OPS of more than 140+. Mays took a similar approach to continue his usefulness at age 40 with the Mets. Pujols became overly aggressive to continue to bag RBIs. The Braves actually helped Aaron by reducing their outfield dimensions. So, it’s going to be about the way Judge adapts, his health, and even perhaps in the manner in which he’s utilized by his manager. Will he take days off vs. pitchers that have troubled him? Platoon a bit? DH? Play first base? Play only on Tuesdays and Saturdays? Let time tell the story. We know nothing… |
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Post by kaybli on Dec 9, 2022 23:17:25 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Dec 10, 2022 9:02:22 GMT -5
Can you even imagine that one?… |
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 10, 2022 12:45:26 GMT -5
Can you even imagine that one?… Not really. Wouldn't the Padres know that MLB would axe the deal upon arrival? Judge, Machado, Soto would be a heck of a middle of the order. |
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Post by domeplease on Dec 10, 2022 13:44:45 GMT -5
After Aaron Judge’s nine-year contract, take a look at the New York Yankees’ payroll in 2023.
Starting pitcher Gerrit Cole is paid second to Aaron Judge on the roster. With the New York Yankees, Cole will be in the fourth year of a nine-year contract and will be eligible for a $36 million salary in 2023.
Giancarlo Stanton, who will receive $32 million this year, will be paid third. The Yankees won’t start receiving payment from the Miami Marlins for inheriting his sizable contract until 2026.
Third baseman Josh Donaldson will be the final athlete to earn more than $20 million in 2023. Isiah Kiner-Falefa and Donaldson were involved in the Gary Sanchez to Minnesota Twins transaction that brought Donaldson to the New York Yankees last year.
The Yankees are still obligated to pay Donaldson $21 million in 2023 even though he only had 15 home runs, 62 RBIs, and a batting average of.222 last season.
The total cost of player wages for the New York Yankees in 2023 is projected to be $261 million. Over half of that is made up of Cole, Judge, and Stanton, so they will be looking for strong seasons from the trio.
DO ME'S THOUGHTS: And I bet that a AL with much less of a Yankee Payroll ($261 Plus) will be in the 2023 WS while once again the Yankees will be on Sofas watching the WS (Giggles).
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Post by kaybli on Dec 16, 2022 11:26:07 GMT -5
Jose Trevino on Aaron Judge: I can’t wait to start calling him captain
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Post by noetsi on Dec 18, 2022 22:09:48 GMT -5
Speaking of the many batters the Yankees will pass on to keep judge how about bentendi (sp)
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 18, 2022 23:09:59 GMT -5
Speaking of the many batters the Yankees will pass on to keep judge how about bentendi (sp) Yankees signed him last season. He had a very slow start, then just when he began hitting broke his hamate bone and was unavailable for the playoffs. Who knows if he will ever hit like he did previously. I would not have minded taking a chance on him again, but he made it known he wanted to sign with a team in the midwest and did so with Chicago White Sox. Benintendi's line with the Yankees: .254/.331/.404/.734 Judge's career line with the Yankees: .284/.394/.583/.977 |
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Post by inger on Dec 19, 2022 0:07:02 GMT -5
Speaking of the many batters the Yankees will pass on to keep judge how about bentendi (sp) Benintendi is not the kind of guy that wins pennants for you. He’s a nice supporting piece, but there are better ways to man LF next year. I’m all in for Cabrera. At his age and in his condition, DJ is best remaining in a super-sub role, give the youngster the starting job and let him roll with it. He showed signs of emerging pop last year that I liked… |
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