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Post by kaybli on May 25, 2023 4:49:21 GMT -5
That being said a 4 run lead in the 7th inning at home should be enough. Was really hoping for the sweep at that point. Now we have to win today to salvage the series. |
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Post by rizzuto on May 25, 2023 7:14:43 GMT -5
That being said a 4 run lead in the 7th inning at home should be enough. We are nearing 1/3 point of the season and both Holmes and Wandy have pitched fewer than 20 innings, fewer than Abreu, Cordero, Marinaccio, and Hamilton, who has been on the IL. Last night was a great chance to take the series. |
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Post by chiyankee on May 25, 2023 8:29:31 GMT -5
That being said a 4 run lead in the 7th inning at home should be enough. We are nearing 1/3 point of the season and both Holmes and Wandy have pitched fewer than 20 innings, fewer than Abreu, Cordero, Marinaccio, and Hamilton, who has been on the IL. Last night was a great chance to take the series. It appears Boone was hoping Cordero could take care of the 7th so he could use Wandy and Holmes for the 8th & 9th. Obviously Cordero and Abreu didn't have it. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on May 25, 2023 9:11:21 GMT -5
We are nearing 1/3 point of the season and both Holmes and Wandy have pitched fewer than 20 innings, fewer than Abreu, Cordero, Marinaccio, and Hamilton, who has been on the IL. Last night was a great chance to take the series. It appears Boone was hoping Cordero could take care of the 7th so he could use Wandy and Holmes for the 8th & 9th. Obviously Cordero and Abreu didn't have it. I forgot who tweeted it Hoch maybe? However, I read that he said somewhere none of Holmes, Wandy, or King was available and they were all getting rest days. When you have that kind of mindset no wonder you blow the game. I am sure you could have used one of them to stop the bleeding for the 7th. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on May 25, 2023 9:18:46 GMT -5
This is the issue with the team no one has defined roles.
Other than Judge and Rizzo in the lineup everyone else shuffles so much that they have to constantly re-prepare their games because one minute they could be batting 7th next its' clean up etc.
The bullpen also has this issue one minute someone is trusted for an 8th inning high leverage situation and the next they are pitching in the 4th inning when the Yankees starter doesn't have it.
Theres a lot of talent on this team, but coaching needs to make up their mind and stick to one thing and not continuously change the lineup and bullpen roles so much.
They also should just pick a closer already instead of this musical chairs (King?)
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Post by bearman on May 25, 2023 9:32:57 GMT -5
This is the issue with the team no one has defined roles. Other than Judge and Rizzo in the lineup everyone else shuffles so much that they have to constantly re-prepare their games because one minute they could be batting 7th next its' clean up etc. The bullpen also has this issue one minute someone is trusted for an 8th inning high leverage situation and the next they are pitching in the 4th inning when the Yankees starter doesn't have it. Theres a lot of talent on this team, but coaching needs to make up their mind and stick to one thing and not continuously change the lineup and bullpen roles so much. They also should just pick a closer already instead of this musical chairs (King?) I agree with you Anthony on the lineup shuffling and the weird use of our bullpen. However I am beginning to wonder on the talent part. We used 6 hitters that had averages of .213 or less. Four of those were starters and all 6 have on base percentages less than .300. It seems to me that we just don't have the ability to manufacture runs. The home run kept us in the game last night because we only had 6 hits. Relief pitching didn't help either. |
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Post by Renfield on May 25, 2023 9:48:31 GMT -5
I thought last night was interesting in that Boone, who is apparently tied to metrics, totally ignored them last night. Surely he knew of Cortes' troubles the 3d time through the line-up. Because Cortes was pitching well, he sent him out in the 7th. The correct move imo. Then he walked the lead-off hitter. Kept him in and I also thought that was the correct move, but should have started Boone thinking about Cortes' late inning struggles. But once he gave up a single to follow up, the metrics should have been screaming in Boone's ear to take him out. He didn't and got burned. Now, maybe the 3d hitter was going to be the last one, but for someone who is wedded to trends and metrics, it was strange to see him go against them so blatently. Oh well, just my rant. Wouldn't have hurt if Cordero could have gotten someone out.
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Post by chiyankee on May 25, 2023 9:55:51 GMT -5
I thought last night was interesting in that Boone, who is apparently tied to metrics, totally ignored them last night. Surely he knew of Cortes' troubles the 3d time through the line-up. Because Cortes was pitching well, he sent him out in the 7th. The correct move imo. Then he walked the lead-off hitter. Kept him in and I also thought that was the correct move, but should have started Boone thinking about Cortes' late inning struggles. But once he gave up a single to follow up, the metrics should have been screaming in Boone's ear to take him out. He didn't and got burned. Now, maybe the 3d hitter was going to be the last one, but for someone who is wedded to trends and metrics, it was strange to see him go against them so blatently. Oh well, just my rant. Wouldn't have hurt if Cordero could have gotten someone out. I think what's lost here on the people that are screaming about Boone, is that Cordero/Abreu did come into the game with the bases empty and the Yankees still leading 5-4 and then promptly gave up 5 runs. Another problem is Nestor, it he can't throw more than 80 pitches in an outing, he will eventually need to be replaced in the rotation. |
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Post by Renfield on May 25, 2023 9:57:02 GMT -5
This is the issue with the team no one has defined roles. Other than Judge and Rizzo in the lineup everyone else shuffles so much that they have to constantly re-prepare their games because one minute they could be batting 7th next its' clean up etc. The bullpen also has this issue one minute someone is trusted for an 8th inning high leverage situation and the next they are pitching in the 4th inning when the Yankees starter doesn't have it. Theres a lot of talent on this team, but coaching needs to make up their mind and stick to one thing and not continuously change the lineup and bullpen roles so much. They also should just pick a closer already instead of this musical chairs (King?) I agree with you Anthony on the lineup shuffling and the weird use of our bullpen. However I am beginning to wonder on the talent part. We used 6 hitters that had averages of .213 or less. Four of those were starters and all 6 have on base percentages less than .300. It seems to me that we just don't have the ability to manufacture runs. The home run kept us in the game last night because we only had 6 hits. Relief pitching didn't help either. You two have hit the nail on the head. Time for Cabrera, Volpe, Bauer and Higgy to start carrying their weight at bat--or find someone else who can. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on May 25, 2023 9:59:48 GMT -5
This is the issue with the team no one has defined roles. Other than Judge and Rizzo in the lineup everyone else shuffles so much that they have to constantly re-prepare their games because one minute they could be batting 7th next its' clean up etc. The bullpen also has this issue one minute someone is trusted for an 8th inning high leverage situation and the next they are pitching in the 4th inning when the Yankees starter doesn't have it. Theres a lot of talent on this team, but coaching needs to make up their mind and stick to one thing and not continuously change the lineup and bullpen roles so much. They also should just pick a closer already instead of this musical chairs (King?) I agree with you Anthony on the lineup shuffling and the weird use of our bullpen. However I am beginning to wonder on the talent part. We used 6 hitters that had averages of .213 or less. Four of those were starters and all 6 have on base percentages less than .300. It seems to me that we just don't have the ability to manufacture runs. The home run kept us in the game last night because we only had 6 hits. Relief pitching didn't help either. They are 7th in the AL in runs with 238 with Boston being 24 ahead in 3rd place. The only teams way ahead right now are Texas 310 and Tampa 304. They were I think 13th in the AL in runs not that long ago so that has picked up. I think the low averages is because they are still striking out way too much. DJ is striking out more than ever. The 6 hitters you mentioned are Bauers, Cabrera, IKF, Higgy, Calhoun, and Volpe. I'm willing to give a pass to Volpe and Higgy, because right Trevino is not an option (but once he comes back we might have to be having the discussion if Rortvedt could be more productive) and Volpe has done enough in his first season to where has helped the team more than hurt it. As far as Bauers, Cabrera, Calhoun, and IKF the first 3 are looking like AAAA players and I guess IKF is ok to keep around as a utility, but this lineup needs Stanton badly, but even with him they need at least another contact bat and I don't think Donaldson is the answer there. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on May 25, 2023 10:04:18 GMT -5
I thought last night was interesting in that Boone, who is apparently tied to metrics, totally ignored them last night. Surely he knew of Cortes' troubles the 3d time through the line-up. Because Cortes was pitching well, he sent him out in the 7th. The correct move imo. Then he walked the lead-off hitter. Kept him in and I also thought that was the correct move, but should have started Boone thinking about Cortes' late inning struggles. But once he gave up a single to follow up, the metrics should have been screaming in Boone's ear to take him out. He didn't and got burned. Now, maybe the 3d hitter was going to be the last one, but for someone who is wedded to trends and metrics, it was strange to see him go against them so blatently. Oh well, just my rant. Wouldn't have hurt if Cordero could have gotten someone out. I think what's lost here on the people that are screaming about Boone, is that Cordero/Abreu did come into the game with the bases empty and the Yankees still leading 5-4 and then promptly gave up 5 runs. Another problem is Nestor, it he can't throw more than 80 pitches in an outing, he will eventually need to be replaced in the rotation. Exactly. That is the problem. They had a clean slate and couldn't get an out forever. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on May 25, 2023 10:16:13 GMT -5
Having said that I don't feel any of the other AL teams are loads better than the Yankees as Tampa and Baltimore both have pitching issues. Texas has some potential, but I feel Houston will pass them eventually. This is a wide open AL, but I do think the Yankees need a real closer, another contact bat, and some more bullpen/lineup consistency.
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Post by rizzuto on May 25, 2023 12:12:21 GMT -5
I thought last night was interesting in that Boone, who is apparently tied to metrics, totally ignored them last night. Surely he knew of Cortes' troubles the 3d time through the line-up. Because Cortes was pitching well, he sent him out in the 7th. The correct move imo. Then he walked the lead-off hitter. Kept him in and I also thought that was the correct move, but should have started Boone thinking about Cortes' late inning struggles. But once he gave up a single to follow up, the metrics should have been screaming in Boone's ear to take him out. He didn't and got burned. Now, maybe the 3d hitter was going to be the last one, but for someone who is wedded to trends and metrics, it was strange to see him go against them so blatently. Oh well, just my rant. Wouldn't have hurt if Cordero could have gotten someone out. I think what's lost here on the people that are screaming about Boone, is that Cordero/Abreu did come into the game with the bases empty and the Yankees still leading 5-4 and then promptly gave up 5 runs. Another problem is Nestor, it he can't throw more than 80 pitches in an outing, he will eventually need to be replaced in the rotation. Abreu came into the game with two men on base, which is essentially like saying, let them score. We've seen that Abreu MUST have a clean inning to be successful. His inherited base runners scoring is something like 13 out of 17, which is likely vying for worst in MLB. In that regard, Renfield is correct that Boone is not paying attention to the metrics on how to best utilize Abreu. There were two throwing errors on Judge and Bader, which allowed base runners to take an extra base, but scoring was allowed by Abreu. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on May 25, 2023 12:19:22 GMT -5
I think what's lost here on the people that are screaming about Boone, is that Cordero/Abreu did come into the game with the bases empty and the Yankees still leading 5-4 and then promptly gave up 5 runs. Another problem is Nestor, it he can't throw more than 80 pitches in an outing, he will eventually need to be replaced in the rotation. Abreu came into the game with two men on base, which is essentially like saying, let them score. We've seen that Abreu MUST have a clean inning to be successful. His inherited base runners scoring is something like 13 out of 17, which is likely vying for worst in MLB. In that regard, Renfield is correct that Boone is not paying attention to the metrics on how to best utilize Abreu. There were two throwing errors on Judge and Bader, which allowed base runners to take an extra base, but scoring was allowed by Abreu. Yea Cordero had the empty bases Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by inger on May 25, 2023 16:31:33 GMT -5
I think what's lost here on the people that are screaming about Boone, is that Cordero/Abreu did come into the game with the bases empty and the Yankees still leading 5-4 and then promptly gave up 5 runs. Another problem is Nestor, it he can't throw more than 80 pitches in an outing, he will eventually need to be replaced in the rotation. Abreu came into the game with two men on base, which is essentially like saying, let them score. We've seen that Abreu MUST have a clean inning to be successful. His inherited base runners scoring is something like 13 out of 17, which is likely vying for worst in MLB. In that regard, Renfield is correct that Boone is not paying attention to the metrics on how to best utilize Abreu. There were two throwing errors on Judge and Bader, which allowed base runners to take an extra base, but scoring was allowed by Abreu. Having throwing errors by Bader and Judge in the same inning is such an unusual occurrence. With Bader’s throw hitting the mound, that call was a bit questionable, but a young inger woukd have hit the catcher’s mitt on the fly, eliminating the mound from the equation… |
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