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Post by Rockaway Park on Jul 30, 2024 16:09:36 GMT -5
1 hour to go, Bombers. Again, Jazz and Leiter won't get you to the WS. Do something. Prices are high. As much as i want the Yankees to make another trade or two, I don't want them to overpay. I get that, but what we currently have won't get it done. We need a starter. |
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Post by Max on Jul 30, 2024 16:10:53 GMT -5
In my opinion, it's another example of a team trading too much, especially for a player in his contract year. Or a case of Cashman not going all in for what the team really needs. Depends how you look at it. Preller, the Padres' GM is the opposite; he always rolls the dice. Both approaches can work, but neither has worked fully for either GM in recent years. I don't want the Yankees to go all in, I want them to go all in within reason. |
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Post by noetsi on Jul 30, 2024 16:11:30 GMT -5
Prices are high. As much as i want the Yankees to make another trade or two, I don't want them to overpay. I get that, but what we currently have won't get it done. We need a starter. We need someone who can hit. |
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Post by Max on Jul 30, 2024 16:12:26 GMT -5
Houston traded too much for Kikuchi. Will there be a team that trades to much for Cortes? With Cole questionable now, I think the Yanks will be taking Cortes off the market. EDIT: Cole says it's just poor recovery from his last start, and nothing to do with his elbow. Maybe he doesn't want to face the Phillies in this park, and would rather go against the Jays at home this weekend. I dunno. Cole is tough almost all the time, but once in a while, he does things that make you go "Hmmm...". Well, better that the Yanks be safe rather than sorry with Cole, considering his contract and his importance to their chances of going anywhere in the post-season. I don't know him, but that doesn't sound like Cole's style at all. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 30, 2024 16:15:28 GMT -5
I'd like to have Diaz, too, he's always been a pain in the neck for the Yanks, except when they beat him on called 3rd strikes that aren't strikes. He's also played some 3rd in the past, but the metrics say he plays a poor defensive 3rd base, and that's why he's at first now. Just don't see how they fit him into the puzzle without trading a player in the lineup away. I think he fits without trading anyone away. Starters: C Wells 1B Diaz 2B Torres 3B Chisholm SS Volpe LF Verdugo CF Judge RF Soto DH Stanton Bench: C Narváez (until Trevino is back) IF LeMahieu (washed but the contract means he sticks) OF Grisham IF Cabrera Bench is definitely crowded. This assumes we send Ben Rice back to AAA, which is kind of a tough break but it is what it is. If they think Chisholm can play SS when Volpe sits then they could send Cabrera down instead. The tougher variables are what to do when Rizzo and/or Dominguez is back. It's a bit of a log jam if no one is on the IL to accommodate them. Like I mentioned, they can get by with Cabrera going down to make room if they're ok with Chisholm as the backup SS for in-game emergencies (if Volpe missed time they'd need to do a roster move though). Honestly, if they acquire, Diaz then Rizzo could probably just be DFA'd or left on the IL. Grisham is nice to keep as a defensive replacement, but I wouldn't sweat DFA'ing him either. DJ has been dreadful and maybe they could do a phantom IL stint. The most "painful" outcome I see would be that you have to leave Rice in AAA, DFA Rizzo now vs. declining his option in the offseason, and DFA Grisham rather than keep him as a defensive replacement. That would be to keep the same 4-man bench and starting lineup I listed above except Dominguez takes Grisham's roster spot (and probably Verdugo's starting position, otherwise they'd leave him in AAA). None of that seems like much of a deterrent to me. Sorta assumes Rizzo is done, but maybe. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 30, 2024 16:16:25 GMT -5
I get that, but what we currently have won't get it done. We need a starter. We need someone who can hit. The Yankees have scored 40 runs in their last 4 games. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 30, 2024 16:17:01 GMT -5
Marlins outfielder Bryan de la Cruz traded to the Pirates.
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Post by Rockaway Park on Jul 30, 2024 16:17:33 GMT -5
I get that, but what we currently have won't get it done. We need a starter. We need someone who can hit. I think our hitting is much better than our pitching. Soto, Judge, Wells, Jazz, Rice on occasion, Verdugo on occasion, Stanton on occasion, far outweighs uh ... Gil and Rodon on occasion and Cole when healthy. Lots of "on occasion" isn't helpful for anybody lol. |
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Post by Rockaway Park on Jul 30, 2024 16:18:08 GMT -5
Man, the Marlins and Rays are GUTTING their teams.
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Post by yankeesfaninboston on Jul 30, 2024 16:18:28 GMT -5
There's a difference between needing "a starter" and needing "a starter you feel good about starting big playoff games for you". I understand that Rodon/Stroman/Cortes/Gil/Schmidt have their down stretches, innings limit, injury recovery timeline, etc. but they're not scrubs.
I go back to a report last night that called Frankie Montas "one of the better starting pitchers left" on the market. He's got 5 ERA. That's what we're dealing with here. Unless you're talking about the top of the market guys - who by most accounts we don't have the prospects for - we're most likely looking at just another guy to throw into the mix with what we already have vs. a real improvement. Everyone always wants more starting pitching, but I'm not sure we really need to prioritize a depth arm. If we need something in the rotation, it's a real impact guy and not sure that's realistic for us.
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Post by Max on Jul 30, 2024 16:20:38 GMT -5
In my opinion, the Yankees need another relief pitcher with swing and miss stuff. Not sure if any are available other than Fairbanks and his strikeout rate is down this season.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 30, 2024 16:21:31 GMT -5
There's a difference between needing "a starter" and needing "a starter you feel good about starting big playoff games for you". I understand that Rodon/Stroman/Cortes/Gil/Schmidt have their down stretches, innings limit, injury recovery timeline, etc. but they're not scrubs. I go back to a report last night that called Frankie Montas "one of the better starting pitchers left" on the market. He's got 5 ERA. That's what we're dealing with here. Unless you're talking about the top of the market guys - who by most accounts we don't have the prospects for - we're most likely looking at just another guy to throw into the mix with what we already have vs. a real improvement. Everyone always wants more starting pitching, but I'm not sure we really need to prioritize a depth arm. If we need something in the rotation, it's a real impact guy and not sure that's realistic for us. Agree, don't trade top prospects for "improvement"; trade them for "impact", especially post-season impact. Like, say, oh...Juan Soto for example. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 30, 2024 16:22:00 GMT -5
Man, the Marlins and Rays are GUTTING their teams. Everyone's leaving Florida... |
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Post by Max on Jul 30, 2024 16:23:10 GMT -5
There's a difference between needing "a starter" and needing "a starter you feel good about starting big playoff games for you". I understand that Rodon/Stroman/Cortes/Gil/Schmidt have their down stretches, innings limit, injury recovery timeline, etc. but they're not scrubs. I go back to a report last night that called Frankie Montas "one of the better starting pitchers left" on the market. He's got 5 ERA. That's what we're dealing with here. Unless you're talking about the top of the market guys - who by most accounts we don't have the prospects for - we're most likely looking at just another guy to throw into the mix with what we already have vs. a real improvement. Everyone always wants more starting pitching, but I'm not sure we really need to prioritize a depth arm. If we need something in the rotation, it's a real impact guy and not sure that's realistic for us. Agree, don't trade top prospects for "improvement"; trade them for "impact", especially post-season impact. Like, say, oh...Juan Soto for example. That would be my definition of Cashman going all in within reason. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 30, 2024 16:24:47 GMT -5
In my opinion, the Yankees need another relief pitcher with swing and miss stuff. Not sure if any are available other than Fairbanks and his strikeout rate is down this season. I tend to agree, Max. Not sure there's a path to get that done, though, not without giving up say, Dominguez, which I wouldn't do for a reliever. Can you say Bagwell for Anderson? (OK, OK, Dominguez isn't going to replicate Bagwell's career, but the principle is the same. Anderson was a quality set-up reliever for a Sox team that got swept by the A's in the ALCS, only to be swept in turn by the Reds in the Series.) |
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