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Post by Max on Jul 30, 2024 17:27:13 GMT -5
Dodger's and O's at least logically the Yankees biggest roadblocks to a Championship and both made major improvements. Yankees hoping the injured and old save them. On paper the Yankees are a better team now than they were a couple of days ago. |
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Post by JEGnj on Jul 30, 2024 17:27:49 GMT -5
At least it's over. Now the players need to get ready to finish.
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Post by noetsi on Jul 30, 2024 17:32:23 GMT -5
Dodger's and O's at least logically the Yankees biggest roadblocks to a Championship and both made major improvements. Yankees hoping the injured and old save them. On paper the Yankees are a better team now than they were a couple of days ago. But not much. As always Cashman does not make big moves. |
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Post by yankeesfaninboston on Jul 30, 2024 17:32:42 GMT -5
De Los Santos doesn't really seem like a pen improvement, just a different arm that they'd rather take a chance with. Leiter seems like a nice add, but not earth-shattering. Not sure how materially improved they are in the pen.
No starting additions to that is what it is. We're not devoid of depth, but recent signs haven't been great here. No one is really looking poised to be a horse in the playoffs, not even Cole who hasn't been himself yet.
Lineup wise, Chisholm is an exciting player but this is his 4th big league season. In this one and 3 of the 4, he's been about league average. The one year he was above league average was a small sample 60 game season that he got hurt midway through. So at this point, it's still really only Judge/Soto that you can confidently call "plus hitters".
We'll see what happens. They're relying on a lot of guys who have been underperforming to play up to their career norms. I just don't look at the team and feel overly confident in them.
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Post by kaybli on Jul 30, 2024 17:33:40 GMT -5
One more starting pitcher would have been ideal. But I like Jazz and I guess the bullpen upgrades are good.
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Post by noetsi on Jul 30, 2024 17:37:35 GMT -5
De Los Santos doesn't really seem like a pen improvement, just a different arm that they'd rather take a chance with. Leiter seems like a nice add, but not earth-shattering. Not sure how materially improved they are in the pen. No starting additions to that is what it is. We're not devoid of depth, but recent signs haven't been great here. No one is really looking poised to be a horse in the playoffs, not even Cole who hasn't been himself yet. Lineup wise, Chisholm is an exciting player but this is his 4th big league season. In this one and 3 of the 4, he's been about league average. The one year he was above league average was a small sample 60 game season that he got hurt midway through. So at this point, it's still really only Judge/Soto that you can confidently call "plus hitters". We'll see what happens. They're relying on a lot of guys who have been underperforming to play up to their career norms. I just don't look at the team and feel overly confident in them. As a statistical analyst I always have a problem when they talk about a norm for a player or returning to some norm. That assumes these are static over time and they are not - because MLB like pre-Einsteinian physics ignores time.  As players get older past a certain point their abilities decline. The fact that a player was good in the past does not mean in the future they will return to that. Especially if they have had major injuries. |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 30, 2024 17:55:28 GMT -5
We could have beat this haul for Flaherty:
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 30, 2024 17:56:17 GMT -5
The Rays are playing the Marlins right now. They might have to combine the two squads to get a full team after all these trades.  |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Jul 30, 2024 17:58:01 GMT -5
Okay, so that's that, I guess. Didn't make the upgrades I had hoped, or at least to the level I hoped, but we'll have to see how these guys play to fully judge the moves. It helps that some of the long dormant bats are waking up and Wells seems to be stepping up.
Chisholm - like this move more now than on initial blush. If he can stick at 3B it's an auto upgrade on OsCab and especially DJ. If he keeps DJ on the bench it's a win. Plus he offers some positional versatility. The big thing will be how he holds up defensively at 3B having not played there previously.
Leiter - I like this move at first glance. His ERA might raise some eyebrows, but his peripheral numbers indicate that should come down.
De Los Santos - Not sure about this one. Numbers are not good this season. Has swing and miss stuff, but still allows contact and has given up A LOT of homeruns this year. If he had those numbers here so far this season, he's one of the guys we're clamoring to replace. Maybe some room for growth and he straightens out with the change of scenery.
Overall, kind of disappointed, but if it was as bad a sellers market as it appears to be, maybe the price was just too high for some of the options. Failing to upgrade on Holmes feels like the biggest miss to me; I just don't think he can be trusted as a closer anymore. Would have been nice to upgrade the rotation, too; but I guess we just have to hope some of these guys find their early season form, or at least something between their fast starts and as bad they've been since. Really need Cole to be Cole again.
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 30, 2024 17:58:03 GMT -5
We could have beat this haul for Flaherty:
I think so. Cashman traded Sweeny to LA for Vivas, who they won't play in the major leagues and Ferguson who they just traded. |
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Post by Max on Jul 30, 2024 17:59:00 GMT -5
On paper the Yankees are a better team now than they were a couple of days ago. But not much. As always Cashman does not make big moves. Prices were high. Just look at what the Astros traded for Kikuchi, what the Orioles traded for Rogers, and what the Padres traded for Scott. |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 30, 2024 18:00:20 GMT -5
We could have beat this haul for Flaherty:
I think so. Cashman traded Sweeny to LA for Vivas, who they won't play in the major leagues and Ferguson who they just traded. We should have got Flaherty. I don't know why Cashman didn't. |
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Post by Max on Jul 30, 2024 18:01:30 GMT -5
The Rays are playing the Marlins right now. They might have to combine the two squads to get a full team after all these trades.  |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Jul 30, 2024 18:02:19 GMT -5
I think so. Cashman traded Sweeny to LA for Vivas, who they won't play in the major leagues and Ferguson who they just traded. We should have got Flaherty. I don't know why Cashman didn't. Maybe I'm wrong, but looking at the 10,000 foot view, I'm betting Detroit wanted Jones and Cash didn't want to part with him for a rental. |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 30, 2024 18:05:04 GMT -5
We should have got Flaherty. I don't know why Cashman didn't. Maybe I'm wrong, but looking at the 10,000 foot view, I'm betting Detroit wanted Jones and Cash didn't want to part with him for a rental. We could have beat the Dodgers offer without Spencer. |
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As players get older past a certain point their abilities decline. The fact that a player was good in the past does not mean in the future they will return to that. Especially if they have had major injuries. 
