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Post by noetsi on Jul 31, 2024 18:30:30 GMT -5
Wow, I wonder who the Yankees would have sent to Detroit? Well I'm glad we didn't trade for damaged goods. Too bad they did not do that with Stanton |
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Post by noetsi on Jul 31, 2024 18:34:37 GMT -5
But not much. As always Cashman does not make big moves. Prices were high. Just look at what the Astros traded for Kikuchi, what the Orioles traded for Rogers, and what the Padres traded for Scott. Prices are always too high for Cashman. For players who likely will never play in NY anyhow. I don't think our farm produces much in the way of awesome major league talent - certainly not who end up here. Trading prospects you won't use anyhow does not seem much of a loss. I think Cashman is simply afraid if they do well elsewhere he will get blamed. So he never trades them. |
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 1, 2024 9:02:09 GMT -5
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Post by Max on Aug 1, 2024 9:11:18 GMT -5
Well I'm glad we didn't trade for damaged goods. Too bad they did not do that with Stanton Stanton wasn't damaged goods. He was coming off a Judge like MVP season. 59 HRs 132 RBIs. |
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Post by Max on Aug 1, 2024 9:16:38 GMT -5
Prices were high. Just look at what the Astros traded for Kikuchi, what the Orioles traded for Rogers, and what the Padres traded for Scott. Prices are always too high for Cashman. For players who likely will never play in NY anyhow. I don't think our farm produces much in the way of awesome major league talent - certainly not who end up here. Trading prospects you won't use anyhow does not seem much of a loss. I think Cashman is simply afraid if they do well elsewhere he will get blamed. So he never trades them.
Sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree. If anything Cashman took too much of a chance when he traded prospects for Montas. He also traded prospects including the Yankees top pitching prospect for Soto without Soto signing a contract extension. Cashman isn't a prospect huger.
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 1, 2024 9:18:54 GMT -5
I bet they are after seeing the uninspiring return for Flaherty. |
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Post by Max on Aug 1, 2024 9:19:50 GMT -5
Wow, I wonder who the Yankees would have sent to Detroit? It seems that folks in Detroti were not thrilled with the return they got for Flaherty and put the blame on their GM. Not sure what more they wanted for a good but often injured pitcher. |
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 1, 2024 10:56:38 GMT -5
It seems that folks in Detroti were not thrilled with the return they got for Flaherty and put the blame on their GM. Not sure what more they wanted for a good but often injured pitcher. I guess the feeling in Detroit is that they should have been able to get one elite level prospect for Flaherty. The guys they got back from LA are not considered in that group. Because the Yankees are uncertain about the future of Juan Soto; both Judge and Cole are in their prime years and the limited financial committment, I was open to moving a top ten Yankee prospect for Flaherty. (I am not sure where Peraza, Lombard or Arias fit into the future.) But without seeing the medicals there is no informed opinion to be had. |
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 1, 2024 10:57:25 GMT -5
I bet they are after seeing the uninspiring return for Flaherty. I did not know, or maybe remember, the story about Rodriguez in 2023. That one is BAD. |
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 1, 2024 11:19:58 GMT -5
I bet they are after seeing the uninspiring return for Flaherty. I did not know, or maybe remember, the story about Rodriguez in 2023. That one is BAD. Sounds like Rodriquez hosed Detroit last year. In the offseason, he signed with Arizona and hasn't pitched all year. |
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 1, 2024 12:12:18 GMT -5
I did not know, or maybe remember, the story about Rodriguez in 2023. That one is BAD. Sounds like Rodriquez hosed Detroit last year. In the offseason, he signed with Arizona and hasn't pitched all year. I read somewhere that he is due back this week ! |
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 1, 2024 12:47:55 GMT -5
Sounds like Rodriquez hosed Detroit last year. In the offseason, he signed with Arizona and hasn't pitched all year. I read somewhere that he is due back this week ! Maybe they will finally get some return on their investment on him and Monty. |
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Post by Max on Aug 2, 2024 10:58:33 GMT -5
Not sure what more they wanted for a good but often injured pitcher. I guess the feeling in Detroit is that they should have been able to get one elite level prospect for Flaherty. The guys they got back from LA are not considered in that group. Because the Yankees are uncertain about the future of Juan Soto; both Judge and Cole are in their prime years and the limited financial committment, I was open to moving a top ten Yankee prospect for Flaherty. (I am not sure where Peraza, Lombard or Arias fit into the future.) But without seeing the medicals there is no informed opinion to be had. Just my 2 cents, but an elite prospect should be traded if that trade brings back an elite player. I didn't even want Cashman to trade Jones/Hampton for 1 season of a top of the rotaton pitcher like Burnes. Even Warren straight up for Flaherty would have been too much. |
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 2, 2024 11:36:03 GMT -5
I guess the feeling in Detroit is that they should have been able to get one elite level prospect for Flaherty. The guys they got back from LA are not considered in that group. Because the Yankees are uncertain about the future of Juan Soto; both Judge and Cole are in their prime years and the limited financial committment, I was open to moving a top ten Yankee prospect for Flaherty. (I am not sure where Peraza, Lombard or Arias fit into the future.) But without seeing the medicals there is no informed opinion to be had. Just my 2 cents, but an elite prospect should be traded if that trade brings back an elite player. I didn't even want Cashman to trade Jones/Hampton for 1 season of a top of the rotaton pitcher like Burnes. Even Warren straight up for Flaherty would have been too much. I love my prospects but I think it is fair to say that most of them fail...even the elite ones such as Clint Frazier or Jesus Montero. But there are times when an overpay might be worth it depending on your perspective. Did the Yankees overpay for David Justice in 2000 ? (they gave up Jake Westbrook as well as Ledee and pitcher Zach Day in the trade) |
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Post by Max on Aug 2, 2024 11:52:21 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents, but an elite prospect should be traded if that trade brings back an elite player. I didn't even want Cashman to trade Jones/Hampton for 1 season of a top of the rotaton pitcher like Burnes. Even Warren straight up for Flaherty would have been too much. I love my prospects but I think it is fair to say that most of them fail...even the elite ones such as Clint Frazier or Jesus Montero. But there are times when an overpay might be worth it depending on your perspective. Did the Yankees overpay for David Justice in 2000 ? (they gave up Jake Westbrook as well as Ledee and pitcher Zach Day in the trade) I wouldn't say the Yankees overpaid. None of those players that the Yankees traded were elite prospects. Justice was no longer an elite player at that time in his career. But he was still a good player that the Yankees needed. |
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