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Post by acuraman on Aug 29, 2023 14:54:37 GMT -5
Blame Cashman all you want, but he was only in the market for a bargain SS, LF, and a veteran power bat at 3B because Hal wouldn't pay for any FA's. Almost every bad move Cashman has made over the years is because of Hal's refusal to spend on established, younger players.
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Post by kaybli on Aug 29, 2023 15:16:30 GMT -5
Blame Cashman all you want, but he was only in the market for a bargain SS, LF, and a veteran power bat at 3B because Hal wouldn't pay for any FA's. Almost every bad move Cashman has made over the years is because of Hal's refusal to spend on established, younger players. I mean Hal's a moron who among other things cut payroll by 30 million after our 2017 run, but Cashman has had 290 million to work with and look at the product.  |
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 29, 2023 15:34:11 GMT -5
Blame Cashman all you want, but he was only in the market for a bargain SS, LF, and a veteran power bat at 3B because Hal wouldn't pay for any FA's. Almost every bad move Cashman has made over the years is because of Hal's refusal to spend on established, younger players. I mean Hal's a moron who among other things cut payroll by 30 million after our 2017 run, but Cashman has had 290 million to work with and look at the product. The Yankees payroll has been among the highest in the league every season that Cashman has been the GM. How much more money does this guy need to at least grab the 3rd wild card? All the bad signings & trades and the inability of the Yankees to develop from within are all on him. Enough with the excuses. |
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Post by domeplease on Aug 29, 2023 16:40:26 GMT -5
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Post by acuraman on Aug 29, 2023 17:38:59 GMT -5
I can't put it any clearer - every bad move Cashman has made over the years is because of Hal's refusal to spend on established, younger players who are FA's.
$290M is not gonna cut it, this ain't 2004.
Hal is responsible for $290M, he oversaw, he approved, he's responsible for short changing his GM. Hal didn't have to approved Hicks, Sevy extensions or any other signings. He's a business man, he has checks and balances within the org and that can tell him no this is a bad deal. He didn't give Cash $290M to spend, he spoon fed it and that's why the team is poorly constructed.
Hal signed Judge to save his face from being the bad guy. If there was no social media, he would of let Judge walk same with Cole.
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Post by JEGnj on Aug 29, 2023 17:42:44 GMT -5
Hal might not want to spend but he has spent a half billion in busts while only having an opt injured Judge and highly paid Cole to show for it. Cashman has to go.
I don't think anyone dislikes him and he was great for the Yankees but he became stale and stubborn. He is too young to go upstairs upstairs so have to move on.
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Post by domeplease on Aug 29, 2023 17:52:36 GMT -5
Hal might not want to spend but he has spent a half billion in busts while only having an opt injured Judge and highly paid Cole to show for it. Cashman has to go. I don't think anyone dislikes him and he was great for the Yankees but he became stale and stubborn. He is too young to go upstairs upstairs so have to move on. Agreed!!! |
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Post by rizzuto on Aug 29, 2023 18:42:44 GMT -5
I can't put it any clearer - every bad move Cashman has made over the years is because of Hal's refusal to spend on established, younger players who are FA's. $290M is not gonna cut it, this ain't 2004. Hal is responsible for $290M, he oversaw, he approved, he's responsible for short changing his GM. Hal didn't have to approved Hicks, Sevy extensions or any other signings. He's a business man, he has checks and balances within the org and that can tell him no this is a bad deal. He didn't give Cash $290M to spend, he spoon fed it and that's why the team is poorly constructed. Hal signed Judge to save his face from being the bad guy. If there was no social media, he would of let Judge walk same with Cole. In that case, Hal should allow Cashman to ply his miraculous general management skills with a better owner by letting him go. |
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 29, 2023 21:47:54 GMT -5
I can't put it any clearer - every bad move Cashman has made over the years is because of Hal's refusal to spend on established, younger players who are FA's. $290M is not gonna cut it, this ain't 2004. 290 million is more than everyone in the sport except the Mets, who are a runaway freight train. So, if 290 million isn't enough, how much more does Cashman have to outspend the rest of the league to compete for a playoff spot. Forget the World Series, the Yankees can't even compete for a wild card with this roster Cashman has put together. |
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Post by inger on Aug 29, 2023 22:04:35 GMT -5
I can't put it any clearer - every bad move Cashman has made over the years is because of Hal's refusal to spend on established, younger players who are FA's. $290M is not gonna cut it, this ain't 2004. 290 million is more than everyone in the sport except the Mets, who are a runaway freight train. So, if 290 million isn't enough, how much more does Cashman have to outspend the rest of the league to compete for a playoff spot. Forget the World Series, the Yankees can't even compete for a wild card with this roster Cashman has put together. While that’s true, sans injuries we’d possibly have won this division this season. The biggest overspends are of course Stanton and Donaldson. Those two made it impossible (due to the imposed budget) to procure a respectable bench. I think we can all see the “potential” contributions that Dtanton and Donaldson “could” have brought. Stanton was signed with the expectation he could hit 40-50+ HR per year. Donaldson was signed in the hood that if healthy he could provide strong defense and return to something slightly representing his heyday. Stanton was a reasonable gamble at the time, Donaldson was a foolhardy dream, but if he could have just done a .240/25/75 offensive slash we’d have at least tolerated him… |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Sept 1, 2023 12:27:54 GMT -5
So it's very unlike the Yankees to be calling up all these guys within a couple weeks span.
My guess is Hal knows he can't just put a band aid on this team and have it be successful. With a healthy Judge and Rizzo all year they probably can get somewhere between 85-90 wins and be fringe 3rd wc or so. Hal knows this fan base is irate right now though and that isn't going to be good enough, but he wants to not spend money at the same time.
So I guess the plan is since the playoffs isn't happening this year bring up all these guys with the highest chance to be something and see how it goes and if some of them will help the team in 24. The more that work out the less money Hal has to spend.
I still think they need a proven 20-30 hr guy like Bellinger or chapman and they need to keep Gleyber.
I feel like this is Hal's last gasp to see what they have to avoid spending money we will see what happens.
If a bunch of them don't do well you have to wonder if there will be a firing spree because he will prob be asking why the orioles could have all these impact players and save money and he can't.
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Post by inger on Sept 2, 2023 3:53:33 GMT -5
So it's very unlike the Yankees to be calling up all these guys within a couple weeks span. My guess is Hal knows he can't just put a band aid on this team and have it be successful. With a healthy Judge and Rizzo all year they probably can get somewhere between 85-90 wins and be fringe 3rd wc or so. Hal knows this fan base is irate right now though and that isn't going to be good enough, but he wants to not spend money at the same time. So I guess the plan is since the playoffs isn't happening this year bring up all these guys with the highest chance to be something and see how it goes and if some of them will help the team in 24. The more that work out the less money Hal has to spend. I still think they need a proven 20-30 hr guy like Bellinger or chapman and they need to keep Gleyber. I feel like this is Hal's last gasp to see what they have to avoid spending money we will see what happens. If a bunch of them don't do well you have to wonder if there will be a firing spree because he will prob be asking why the orioles could have all these impact players and save money and he can't. All spot on Anthony. I can see us snapping back into shape next year with some of the guys that are up now contributing and a couple wise FA or trade acquisitions. Of course we’ll need to keep healthy as well and certainly must have better depth in the OF. Another starting pitcher, unless King can make it to full starter status and maybe be joined by Vasquez, Brito or ???? From within. By bringing these kids up we can better evaluate who to keep and who to trade, as well. I’m digging it… |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Nov 21, 2023 3:11:42 GMT -5
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Post by kaybli on Nov 21, 2023 4:24:35 GMT -5
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 21, 2023 5:45:40 GMT -5
Sorry to see that relevant again. Ruth -- Gehrig -- DiMaggio -- Mantle -- Costanza |
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