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Post by chiyankee on Aug 25, 2024 15:38:45 GMT -5
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 25, 2024 15:59:04 GMT -5
Somehow Judge is a better play now than 2022.
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Post by inger on Aug 25, 2024 17:23:32 GMT -5
Judge up to .334/.466/.738 with a 1.204 OPS. Just ridiculous. Witt, Jr. Is at .346. I hate to pray for a slump from him, so instead I’ll just hope Judge heats up more… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Aug 25, 2024 18:50:35 GMT -5
Judge up to .334/.466/.738 with a 1.204 OPS. Just ridiculous. Witt, Jr. Is at .346. I hate to pray for a slump from him, so instead I’ll just hope Judge heats up more… Witt is a great young player, but Judge is beating him in all the key offensive categories other than BA. I know they hate to give the MVP to a Yankee, but if the season ended now they would have to give it to Judge. I'm positive that the only reason Judge got it in 2022 rather than Ohtani was because of the 62 HRs. If Judge had hit "only" 60, it would have gone to Ohtani. |
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 25, 2024 18:54:19 GMT -5
Witt, Jr. Is at .346. I hate to pray for a slump from him, so instead I’ll just hope Judge heats up more… Witt is a great young player, but Judge is beating him in all the key offensive categories other than BA. I know they hate to give the MVP to a Yankee, but if the season ended now they would have to give it to Judge. I'm positive that the only reason Judge got it in 2022 rather than Ohtani was because of the 62 HRs. If Judge had hit "only" 60, it would have gone to Ohtani. Witt is a great all around player, he should win the gold glove at SS. If he was in the NL, he should he be the easy winner of the MVP and would be in the AL too if wasn't for Judge who is just on another level at the plate from every one else. |
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Post by inger on Aug 25, 2024 18:54:26 GMT -5
Witt, Jr. Is at .346. I hate to pray for a slump from him, so instead I’ll just hope Judge heats up more… Witt is a great young player, but Judge is beating him in all the key offensive categories other than BA. I know they hate to give the MVP to a Yankee, but if the season ended now they would have to give it to Judge. I'm positive that the only reason Judge got it in 2022 rather than Ohtani was because of the 62 HRs. If Judge had hit "only" 60, it would have gone to Ohtani. I’m referring to Witt only as a roadblock to the triple crown, not as MVP… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Aug 25, 2024 18:56:45 GMT -5
Witt is a great young player, but Judge is beating him in all the key offensive categories other than BA. I know they hate to give the MVP to a Yankee, but if the season ended now they would have to give it to Judge. I'm positive that the only reason Judge got it in 2022 rather than Ohtani was because of the 62 HRs. If Judge had hit "only" 60, it would have gone to Ohtani. I’m referring to Witt only as a roadblock to the triple crown, not as MVP… Ah, okay, got it. Yeah that could be a problem. |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Aug 25, 2024 22:37:41 GMT -5
If we want to be literal about "Most Valuable Player", name a player that means more to his team's success. What would this club's record be without 99 in the lineup?
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Post by bumper on Aug 25, 2024 23:37:44 GMT -5
Somehow Judge is a better play now than 2022. and his numbers since april 26 are even more ridiculous. 102 games .377 BA 47 HR 109 RBI .505 OBP 1.335 OPS. if he didn't have such a terrible april, think he'd easily smash bond's record.
regarding mvp, there is no one more valuable to their team.
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Post by bigjeep on Aug 26, 2024 7:13:45 GMT -5
OK, comparing players today to players from the past is like comparing apples to potatoes! It can't be done. Just look at today's wacky rules! Could judge or any other player today hit against Sandy Kofax or Juan Marichal? We will never know. But we do know that today's pitching is watered down compared to years past! 3/4 of the pitchers today could not play in the Major Leagues in my day! Most teams had 3 starters. I remember the saying, "Spahn and Sain and pray for rain!" In today's game, Judge is a top 3 player!  |
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Post by desousa on Aug 26, 2024 7:53:47 GMT -5
Judge factoid.
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Post by cocopugg on Aug 26, 2024 10:15:36 GMT -5
OK, comparing players today to players from the past is like comparing apples to potatoes! It can't be done. Just look at today's wacky rules! Could judge or any other player today hit against Sandy Kofax or Juan Marichal? We will never know. But we do know that today's pitching is watered down compared to years past! 3/4 of the pitchers today could not play in the Major Leagues in my day! Most teams had 3 starters. I remember the saying, "Spahn and Sain and pray for rain!" In today's game, Judge is a top 3 player! I agree that practically all of today's pitchers would not have the stamina or durability to have played in the game 50 years ago, but that being said, none of the regular players back in the day had to deal with 100mph pitches on a consistent basis, with most starters today only going 4-6 innings, and them being replaced by fireballers after that! Let's take Babe Ruth as an example. Do you seriously think that in the condition the Babe was in, and the super heavy bat he swung back in the day (because pitchers back then basically "lobbed the ball" to home plate, compared with today's pitchers) that he would be able to keep pace with Aaron Judge in a home run race with him today? That's where I agree with you that comparing players from the past to players of the present is like comparing apples to potatoes! Players back then trained differently than do today's players, but then again the rules of the game have changed so much, that today's baseball (in my personal opinion) is merely a shell of what the game used to be, when IT WAS A (THE) GAME! |
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Post by Bigjeep8 on Aug 26, 2024 10:53:52 GMT -5
Today's baseball is more like a golf ball! Ruth was hitting a soft ball. Don't underestimate pitchers fast ball back in the day! They weren't lobbing the ball. Far from it. Bobby feller did a early speed test. He had to throw the ball into a small hole! It was over 100 MPR. CHECK IT OUT.
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Post by cocopugg on Aug 26, 2024 12:16:39 GMT -5
Today's baseball is more like a golf ball! Ruth was hitting a soft ball. Don't underestimate pitchers fast ball back in the day! They weren't lobbing the ball. Far from it. Bobby feller did a early speed test. He had to throw the ball into a small hole! It was over 100 MPR. CHECK IT OUT. Hi Bigjeep, oh I am well aware of Bob Feller and his fastball, but he was the exception for his day, and not the rule. Today, however, it seems like 100mph+ pitchers are a dime a dozen, which says to me that there is no way someone using such a heavy bat as Babe Ruth used could've continued using it in today's game. So if he had to use a lighter weight bat if he played today, does that mean he wouldn't be hitting as many home runs? I know it's apples and potatoes, but it makes for a good conversation! |
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Post by pippsheadache on Aug 26, 2024 12:53:13 GMT -5
Today's baseball is more like a golf ball! Ruth was hitting a soft ball. Don't underestimate pitchers fast ball back in the day! They weren't lobbing the ball. Far from it. Bobby feller did a early speed test. He had to throw the ball into a small hole! It was over 100 MPR. CHECK IT OUT. Hi Bigjeep, oh I am well aware of Bob Feller and his fastball, but he was the exception for his day, and not the rule. Today, however, it seems like 100mph+ pitchers are a dime a dozen, which says to me that there is no way someone using such a heavy bat as Babe Ruth used could've continued using it in today's game. So if he had to use a lighter weight bat if he played today, does that mean he wouldn't be hitting as many home runs? I know it's apples and potatoes, but it makes for a good conversation! In one of my Babe Ruth biographies there was an anecdote about how the Yanks got Babe in practice to try a 34 ounce (I think) bat compared to the 42 ounce club he was using at the time. They came to the conclusion that Babe actually hit more home runs with the lighter bat, but the ball wasn't traveling as far, so it was No Sale for the Sultan of Swat, who as we know was very big on style points. Sure there are far more pitchers throwing around 100 MPH now than in the past. Even the recent past. That's because they aren't expected to throw nine innings so they can let it rip for four or five innings and a bullpen full of anonymous interchangeable big boys will come out firing for 15-20 pitches. And they all wind up on the IL and miss two or three prime years recovering from various surgeries while the next gang shuffles in. That's why teams run through more than 30 pitchers to get through a season. I don't know how good the 800th or 900th best pitchers in baseball are, but I doubt they would have been considered major league material 25 or even 50 years ago. But they do throw hard, especially when you change the measurement criteria as MLB continues to do to light up that velocity number on the scoreboard. |
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