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Post by 1955nyyfan on May 27, 2024 13:30:26 GMT -5
I think Verdugo will be too expensive to keep, hate to say it. If you can get him for cheap, nice. But I'd ensure we free up room for Dominguez by 2025, by which he will have accomplished everything in his rehab and AAA time. I think that is exactly what we shall see, unless Soto signs elsewhere. I think there is more than one Yankee on this current roster who's future hinges on what Soto does this offseason. Hope it is resolved somewhat quickly to give Cash time to execute his approach for building next year's team.
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Post by inger on May 27, 2024 13:36:38 GMT -5
I think that is exactly what we shall see, unless Soto signs elsewhere. I think there is more than one Yankee on this current roster who's future hinges on what Soto does this offseason. Hope it is resolved somewhat quickly to give Cash time to execute his approach for building next year's team. It really would be great if it got done TODAY! …
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Post by vdfebduderocks on May 27, 2024 20:22:48 GMT -5
As much as I love Soto, I think he will be too expensive. Dominguez in center, Verdugo in left, Judge in right. I do like the idea of Judge at first base. don't think there's such a thing as "too expensive" relating to Soto at this point.
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Post by inger on May 27, 2024 21:53:06 GMT -5
As much as I love Soto, I think he will be too expensive. Dominguez in center, Verdugo in left, Judge in right. I do like the idea of Judge at first base. don't think there's such a thing as "too expensive" relating to Soto at this point. Maybe at the point of an Ohtani contract… between $500m to $550m, not so… we’re doomed. Hal’s too tight to pay out…
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Post by ypaterson on May 28, 2024 8:51:26 GMT -5
I think that is exactly what we shall see, unless Soto signs elsewhere. I think there is more than one Yankee on this current roster who's future hinges on what Soto does this offseason. Hope it is resolved somewhat quickly to give Cash time to execute his approach for building next year's team. For all the buzz about Soto...and you can toss in Judge to the recipe...the Yankee success is about the pitching. Soto is great but winning starts with the pitcher(s). A Soto deal cannot be so large that it limits the ability of the team to keep important role pitchers.
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Post by inger on May 28, 2024 13:43:17 GMT -5
I think there is more than one Yankee on this current roster who's future hinges on what Soto does this offseason. Hope it is resolved somewhat quickly to give Cash time to execute his approach for building next year's team. For all the buzz about Soto...and you can toss in Judge to the recipe...the Yankee success is about the pitching. Soto is great but winning starts with the pitcher(s). A Soto deal cannot be so large that it limits the ability of the team to keep important role pitchers. Really a great point. Soto is great and seems to fit in well, but he’s played on winners AND losers…
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Post by laurenfrances on May 28, 2024 14:44:23 GMT -5
Here's a thought I have been considering. Is Steinbrenner willing to paid at the minimum about 200 millions more then they are paying Judge to garner Soto's services? Is he more valuable than Judge? Soto's offense is legendary as his defense is pedestrian. Yankees offense was spurred to a higher level upon Judge's ability to hit. He's what can be discerned as the straw that stirs the drink. As much as I enjoy watching Soto, I would be ok with bringing back Verdugo with Judge and Dominquez in the outfield.
If Mets want to spend mega bucks to garner his services, go to it. Soto himself is not enough when Mets will be sellers in the months ahead. Look at it this way, is Trout enough to put Angels on the map? Getting Soto would limit what Yankees can do with other positions in the years ahead. A mega portion of the finances would be committed to 5 players ( Soto, Judge, Cole, Stanton and Rodon) for the many years years ahead. Will Yankees have the finances to sign Volpe, Dominquez, starting pitchers and others to fill various positions when finances are prohibited? Will they do dumpster dives to fill it?
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Post by 1955nyyfan on May 28, 2024 15:09:40 GMT -5
Here's a thought I have been considering. Is Steinbrenner willing to paid at the minimum about 200 millions more then they are paying Judge to garner Soto's services? Is he more valuable than Judge? Soto's offense is legendary as his defense is pedestrian. Yankees offense was spurred to a higher level upon Judge's ability to hit. He's what can be discerned as the straw that stirs the drink. As much as I enjoy watching Soto, I would be ok with bringing back Verdugo with Judge and Dominquez in the outfield. If Mets want to spend mega bucks to garner his services, go to it. Soto himself is not enough when Mets will be sellers in the months ahead. Look at it this way, is Trout enough to put Angels on the map? Getting Soto would limit what Yankees can do with other positions in the years ahead. A mega portion of the finances would be committed to 5 players ( Soto, Judge, Cole, Stanton and Rodon) for the many years years ahead. Will Yankees have the finances to sign Volpe, Dominquez, starting pitchers and others to fill various positions when finances are prohibited? Will they do dumpster dives to fill it? I hear you Lauren but one of the things that make's the quest for Soto so unique is how young he is. That is partly why the value of his deal will be more than Judges. The team that signs him will likely be getting more prime years.
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Post by laurenfrances on May 28, 2024 15:19:58 GMT -5
Here's a thought I have been considering. Is Steinbrenner willing to paid at the minimum about 200 millions more then they are paying Judge to garner Soto's services? Is he more valuable than Judge? Soto's offense is legendary as his defense is pedestrian. Yankees offense was spurred to a higher level upon Judge's ability to hit. He's what can be discerned as the straw that stirs the drink. As much as I enjoy watching Soto, I would be ok with bringing back Verdugo with Judge and Dominquez in the outfield. If Mets want to spend mega bucks to garner his services, go to it. Soto himself is not enough when Mets will be sellers in the months ahead. Look at it this way, is Trout enough to put Angels on the map? Getting Soto would limit what Yankees can do with other positions in the years ahead. A mega portion of the finances would be committed to 5 players ( Soto, Judge, Cole, Stanton and Rodon) for the many years years ahead. Will Yankees have the finances to sign Volpe, Dominquez, starting pitchers and others to fill various positions when finances are prohibited? Will they do dumpster dives to fill it? I hear you Lauren but one of the things that make's the quest for Soto so unique is how young he is. That is partly why the value of his deal will be more than Judges. The team that signs him will likely be getting more prime years. I'm just concerned Yankees won't have the finances to fill other positions if major finances is locked for 5 players.
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Post by inger on May 28, 2024 16:45:51 GMT -5
I hear you Lauren but one of the things that make's the quest for Soto so unique is how young he is. That is partly why the value of his deal will be more than Judges. The team that signs him will likely be getting more prime years. I'm just concerned Yankees won't have the finances to fill other positions if major finances is locked for 5 players. It’s a gamble. If we can bring kids up then the remainder of the roster is cheap for quite a while. I like the 50’s and 60’s when one GM, (Buzzy Babasi?) traded everyone when they hit 30… well, almost everyone. He knew he had gotten the best out of most of them. I might change that to 32 or 33 now, though.
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Post by 1955nyyfan on May 28, 2024 18:17:31 GMT -5
I hear you Lauren but one of the things that make's the quest for Soto so unique is how young he is. That is partly why the value of his deal will be more than Judges. The team that signs him will likely be getting more prime years. I'm just concerned Yankees won't have the finances to fill other positions if major finances is locked for 5 players. Absolutely agree, this is not an easy decision for Cash and Hal. They might however bet on some of the young kids being good and cheap enough to bridge the gap until contracts like Stanton, Stroman and DJ are gone. But some veteran players who would normally be brought back would likely not be.
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Post by ypaterson on May 28, 2024 18:50:05 GMT -5
I'm just concerned Yankees won't have the finances to fill other positions if major finances is locked for 5 players. Absolutely agree, this is not an easy decision for Cash and Hal. They might however bet on some of the young kids being good and cheap enough to bridge the gap until contracts like Stanton, Stroman and DJ are gone. But some veteran players who would normally be brought back would likely not be. The choice this fall might be between extending Cole or keeping Soto. Cole is expected to opt out but the Yankees can keep him by adding another year to his contract. Cole makes about $35 M. Hal / Cash could let Cole walk to hang on to Soto. Would you ?
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Post by Renfield on May 28, 2024 19:30:04 GMT -5
I'm just concerned Yankees won't have the finances to fill other positions if major finances is locked for 5 players. It’s a gamble. If we can bring kids up then the remainder of the roster is cheap for quite a while. I like the 50’s and 60’s when one GM, (Buzzy Babasi?) traded everyone when they hit 30… well, almost everyone. He knew he had gotten the best out of most of them. I might change that to 32 or 33 now, though. So, Dome was Buzzy Bavasi?
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Post by ypaterson on May 28, 2024 20:27:14 GMT -5
I'm just concerned Yankees won't have the finances to fill other positions if major finances is locked for 5 players. It’s a gamble. If we can bring kids up then the remainder of the roster is cheap for quite a while. I like the 50’s and 60’s when one GM, (Buzzy Babasi?) traded everyone when they hit 30… well, almost everyone. He knew he had gotten the best out of most of them. I might change that to 32 or 33 now, though. The Yankees have $ 175 M committed to 6 players in 2025: Judge, Cole, Stanton, Rodon, Stroman and DJ. with another 8 going to Aaron Hicks. Without Soto it might be close to impssible to stay under the LT.
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Post by chiyankee on May 28, 2024 20:48:06 GMT -5
I forgot about this thread, I should have posted this here.
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