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Post by azbob643 on Jun 6, 2024 20:50:29 GMT -5
How is it not "the same situation as Judge"? Because he isn't the clear best player on this team. Because, as great as he's done this season, if the lose him with an extended injury, they have options to cover for him. For example, Jasson Dominguez. Because their standings position is much stronger than it was at this time last year. Because the game was 4-0 top 2nd, two outs and nobody on base and not 5-3 with the tying runs on base in the 8th. That justifies Verdugo NOT going all out to make that catch. Judge's try is better in the game situation, but not the team/season situation.. So…let me get this straight… You believe Judge should’ve taken all of that into account in the split second the ball left the bat before “deciding” to make the play on the ball which, BTW, he did. Do you also believe that Judge considered the possibility that the “gate” would give way, exposing himself to possible injury, yet “decided” to make the play regardless? |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jun 6, 2024 22:47:48 GMT -5
Because he isn't the clear best player on this team. Because, as great as he's done this season, if the lose him with an extended injury, they have options to cover for him. For example, Jasson Dominguez. Because their standings position is much stronger than it was at this time last year. Because the game was 4-0 top 2nd, two outs and nobody on base and not 5-3 with the tying runs on base in the 8th. That justifies Verdugo NOT going all out to make that catch. Judge's try is better in the game situation, but not the team/season situation.. So…let me get this straight… You believe Judge should’ve taken all of that into account in the split second the ball left the bat before “deciding” to make the play on the ball which, BTW, he did. Do you also believe that Judge considered the possibility that the “gate” would give way, exposing himself to possible injury, yet “decided” to make the play regardless? Straw man. Never made that argument. In that situation, he has to consider the team situation before each game, and make the decision not to risk his/the team's season to win one game. Similar to, but not the same as a playing who's already playing through a minor injury, such as a left forearm soreness. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jun 6, 2024 22:49:38 GMT -5
Just watched it again. Verdugo knows he has the catch lined up and is defintely slowing down/easing up in the last step or two and does get his throwing arm down to destribute the impact., minimizing the damage to any one part of his body. Post the video... Thought you said you would. Doesn't matter, anyone can go see it if they want to at MLB.com. It's in the All play by play scoll for the game, if you look up the Wrap for yesterday's game in their scores section. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jun 7, 2024 5:44:04 GMT -5
Thought you said you would. Doesn't matter, anyone can go see it if they want to at MLB.com. It's in the All play by play scoll for the game, if you look up the Wrap for yesterday's game in their scores section. You apparently see what you want to see, and that's not gonna change. Rather than endlessly going round and round with no resolution, I'm just gonna say we can agree to disagree, leave it at that and move on. Have a nice day!  |
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Post by qimqam on Jun 7, 2024 6:59:59 GMT -5
Why was Volpe diving all over the field last night and stealing 3rd with a head first slide ?
We dont want our player to be great and take the chance of getting hurt.
We want average healthy players
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Post by Max on Jun 7, 2024 13:32:10 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents...It comes down to instincts, players that are used to giving 100% all of the time let their baseball instincts take over when a ball is hit their way. In the middle of a play, for the most part a player doesn't have time to calculate if he's going to get hurt or not. The warning track is called the warning track for a reason, but when an OFer is running full speed the warning track doesn't give much time for a player to adjust.
The same applies to hitting. For example, a player that over thinks when he's in the batter's box. Yogi knew what he was talking about when he said...“You can't think and hit at the same time”.
I don't expect players to run willy-nilly full speed into the OF wall. Being reckless shouldn't be confused with giving 100%. Judge wasn't being reckless, the ball was catchable, so Judge gave a 100% effort and made a great catch. I don't want any players playing for the Yankees that don't use their baseball instincts and don't give 100%.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jun 7, 2024 13:44:03 GMT -5
Thought you said you would. Doesn't matter, anyone can go see it if they want to at MLB.com. It's in the All play by play scoll for the game, if you look up the Wrap for yesterday's game in their scores section. You apparently see what you want to see, and that's not gonna change. Rather than endlessly going round and round with no resolution, I'm just gonna say we can agree to disagree, leave it at that and move on. Have a nice day! I'm fine with that, bob. You, too. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jun 7, 2024 13:44:35 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents...It comes down to instincts, players that are used to giving 100% all of the time let their baseball instincts take over when a ball is hit their way. In the middle of a play, for the most part a player doesn't have time to calculate if he's going to get hurt or not.
That goes for hitting too. For example, a player that over thinks when he's in the batter's box. Yogi knew what he was talking about when he said...“You can't think and hit at the same time”.
I don't expect players to run willy nilly full speed into the OF wall. Being reckless shouldn't be confused with giving 100%. Judge wasn't being reckless, the ball was catchable, so Judge gave a 100% effort and made a great catch. I don't want any players playing for the Yankees that don't use their baseball instincts and don't give 100%.
I'm Ok with that also, Max. |
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Post by bumper on Jun 7, 2024 14:31:33 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents...It comes down to instincts, players that are used to giving 100% all of the time let their baseball instincts take over when a ball is hit their way. In the middle of a play, for the most part a player doesn't have time to calculate if he's going to get hurt or not. The warning track is called the warning track for a reason, but when an OFer is running full speed the warning track doesn't give much time for a player to adjust.
The same applies to hitting. For example, a player that over thinks when he's in the batter's box. Yogi knew what he was talking about when he said...“You can't think and hit at the same time”.
I don't expect players to run willy-nilly full speed into the OF wall. Being reckless shouldn't be confused with giving 100%. Judge wasn't being reckless, the ball was catchable, so Judge gave a 100% effort and made a great catch. I don't want any players playing for the Yankees that don't use their baseball instincts and don't give 100%.
exactly max. that's how ballplayers are wired. it's instinct. they see the ball and react. there's no time for calculations or premeditation.
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 7, 2024 17:09:14 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents...It comes down to instincts, players that are used to giving 100% all of the time let their baseball instincts take over when a ball is hit their way. In the middle of a play, for the most part a player doesn't have time to calculate if he's going to get hurt or not. The warning track is called the warning track for a reason, but when an OFer is running full speed the warning track doesn't give much time for a player to adjust.
The same applies to hitting. For example, a player that over thinks when he's in the batter's box. Yogi knew what he was talking about when he said...“You can't think and hit at the same time”.
I don't expect players to run willy-nilly full speed into the OF wall. Being reckless shouldn't be confused with giving 100%. Judge wasn't being reckless, the ball was catchable, so Judge gave a 100% effort and made a great catch. I don't want any players playing for the Yankees that don't use their baseball instincts and don't give 100%.
John Wooden said it best, "Be quick, but don't hurry." |
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Post by inger on Jun 7, 2024 21:51:11 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents...It comes down to instincts, players that are used to giving 100% all of the time let their baseball instincts take over when a ball is hit their way. In the middle of a play, for the most part a player doesn't have time to calculate if he's going to get hurt or not. The warning track is called the warning track for a reason, but when an OFer is running full speed the warning track doesn't give much time for a player to adjust.
The same applies to hitting. For example, a player that over thinks when he's in the batter's box. Yogi knew what he was talking about when he said...“You can't think and hit at the same time”.
I don't expect players to run willy-nilly full speed into the OF wall. Being reckless shouldn't be confused with giving 100%. Judge wasn't being reckless, the ball was catchable, so Judge gave a 100% effort and made a great catch. I don't want any players playing for the Yankees that don't use their baseball instincts and don't give 100%.
exactly max. that's how ballplayers are wired. it's instinct. they see the ball and react. there's no time for calculations or premeditation.
You either make the play, or you do the calculation. If you do the calculation you’ll know better and back down. It’s why Bobby Abreu would not go to the wall for fly balls. It’s why Derek Jeter dove into the stands (because he didn’t calculate)… it’s why I broke a 3/4 wooden fence once (actually I broke the post). You just do it… |
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Post by bumper on Jun 7, 2024 22:02:11 GMT -5
exactly max. that's how ballplayers are wired. it's instinct. they see the ball and react. there's no time for calculations or premeditation.
You either make the play, or you do the calculation. If you do the calculation you’ll know better and back down. It’s why Bobby Abreu would go to the wall for fly balls. It’s why Derek Jeter dove into the stands (because he didn’t calculate)… it’s why I broke a 3/4 wooden fence once (actually I broke the post). You just do it… forgot about abreu. certainly one of the most wall shy players i can remember.
yeah the jeter dive was the standard. made judge's and verdugo's plays look routine.
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Post by Max on Jun 8, 2024 16:09:02 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents...It comes down to instincts, players that are used to giving 100% all of the time let their baseball instincts take over when a ball is hit their way. In the middle of a play, for the most part a player doesn't have time to calculate if he's going to get hurt or not.
That goes for hitting too. For example, a player that over thinks when he's in the batter's box. Yogi knew what he was talking about when he said...“You can't think and hit at the same time”.
I don't expect players to run willy nilly full speed into the OF wall. Being reckless shouldn't be confused with giving 100%. Judge wasn't being reckless, the ball was catchable, so Judge gave a 100% effort and made a great catch. I don't want any players playing for the Yankees that don't use their baseball instincts and don't give 100%.
I'm Ok with that also, Max. I was just giving my 2 cents, it wasn't meant for anyone in particular. It doesn't mean my 2 cents is right and that anyone that disagrees with what I said is wrong. People's philosophies don't always match. For example, I don't like when a player slides head first, but some other fans like it. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jun 8, 2024 16:14:55 GMT -5
I'm Ok with that also, Max. I was just giving my 2 cents, it wasn't meant for anyone in particular. It doesn't mean my 2 cents is right and that anyone that disagrees with what I said is wrong. People's philosophies don't always match. For example, I don't like when a player slides head first, but some other fans like it. Count me in as a "like". |
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Post by inger on Jun 8, 2024 23:17:52 GMT -5
I was just giving my 2 cents, it wasn't meant for anyone in particular. It doesn't mean my 2 cents is right and that anyone that disagrees with what I said is wrong. People's philosophies don't always match. For example, I don't like when a player slides head first, but some other fans like it. Count me in as a "like". I did my fair share of it, but I also had times I wanted to go feet first if I felt a pop up slide was in order. |
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