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Post by nyborn on Jun 13, 2024 16:32:59 GMT -5
Ugh, I went into a meeting with the Yanks leading 3-2 going into the bottom of the 9th. I just figured they won another one. 3 out 4 against a team that plays well in their building is still an impressive achievement. As for Holmes, Mo used to blow saves too. It happens, especially when you don't strike guys out and have to rely on your defense all the time. Holmes has filthy stuff but the opponents often make contact. 17% blown saves with this great team and his great stuff is BAD. Maybe they can work with him to get the strike outs up as well as some other changes. Weird situation. |
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Post by nw on Jun 13, 2024 16:39:09 GMT -5
Ugh, I went into a meeting with the Yanks leading 3-2 going into the bottom of the 9th. I just figured they won another one. 3 out 4 against a team that plays well in their building is still an impressive achievement. As for Holmes, Mo used to blow saves too. It happens, especially when you don't strike guys out and have to rely on your defense all the time. Holmes has filthy stuff but the opponents often make contact. 17% blown saves with this great team and his great stuff is BAD. Maybe they can work with him to get the strike outs up as well as some other changes. Weird situation. You can't magically make a strikeout pitcher a strikeout pitcher. Pitching to contact wouldn't be so bad if our infield defense wasn't one of the worst in baseball. The Yankees need to address their bullpen as a whole. It's one of the more subtle impacts of the Soto trade. Yes, Michael King was the headliner and he was a big cog in our pen last year, but we also traded away another 100+ innings of (mostly) competent relief pitching and spot starting. Poteet could potentially expand the pen when Cole comes back, but we simply don't have the quality of arm down there that we did last year. |
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Post by bigjeep on Jun 13, 2024 16:43:31 GMT -5
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Jun 13, 2024 16:55:10 GMT -5
Holmes has filthy stuff but the opponents often make contact. 17% blown saves with this great team and his great stuff is BAD. Maybe they can work with him to get the strike outs up as well as some other changes. Weird situation. You can't magically make a strikeout pitcher a strikeout pitcher. Pitching to contact wouldn't be so bad if our infield defense wasn't one of the worst in baseball. The Yankees need to address their bullpen as a whole. It's one of the more subtle impacts of the Soto trade. Yes, Michael King was the headliner and he was a big cog in our pen last year, but we also traded away another 100+ innings of (mostly) competent relief pitching and spot starting. Poteet could potentially expand the pen when Cole comes back, but we simply don't have the quality of arm down there that we did last year. Right now, Weaver and Tonkin (of all people), are our only reliable middle relievers. Everyone else has been very mediocre to bad with a couple of other unproven guys sprinkled in. Tonkin has been great, but he's been an AAAA guy his whole career. Maybe he catches lightning in a bottle, but I'm always kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop with him. This, to me, is the clear hole that needs to be addressed. I don't have much confidence in our BP being adequate enough to go on a long October run. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jun 13, 2024 18:26:47 GMT -5
Right now, Weaver and Tonkin (of all people), are our only reliable middle relievers. Weaver has generally been good overall. Can't expect perfection every time out, but he did give up 2 walks in today's game. Few things irritate me more than relievers who don't throw strikes, especially in very close games. Perez helped him out by swinging at a pitch well off the plate to fly out to RF, and the pitch Velazquez was called out on was a ball off the plate. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jun 13, 2024 21:09:14 GMT -5
Ugh, I went into a meeting with the Yanks leading 3-2 going into the bottom of the 9th. I just figured they won another one. 3 out 4 against a team that plays well in their building is still an impressive achievement. As for Holmes, Mo used to blow saves too. It happens, especially when you don't strike guys out and have to rely on your defense all the time. Holmes has filthy stuff but the opponents often make contact. 17% blown saves with this great team and his great stuff is BAD. Maybe they can work with him to get the strike outs up as well as some other changes. Weird situation. I thought Holmes had some good luck in his first couple outings, some hard hit balls that were at people. He then went on a really good streak where he looked unhittable. Lately he has been struggling most notably with command. As someone mentioned, he had the number 9 hitter 0-2 and couldn't put him away. He then falls behind the next guy and has to come in with a cookie. It seems to me he struggles more with command when he goes 3 or 4 days without making an appearance. The lack of swing and miss is concerning and surprising. Last year he averaged over 10K per 9, this year less than 9. His WHIP has also jumped up to 1.30 from 1.17. I've defended him in the past but a save percentage of 83% isn't gonna cut it. While he had some good luck early on, the Baseball Gods seem like they are getting even. His last couple poor outings have had a lot of soft contact hits. |
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Post by inger on Jun 13, 2024 21:17:50 GMT -5
Holmes has filthy stuff but the opponents often make contact. 17% blown saves with this great team and his great stuff is BAD. Maybe they can work with him to get the strike outs up as well as some other changes. Weird situation. I thought Holmes had some good luck in his first couple outings, some hard hit balls that were at people. He then went on a really good streak where he looked unhittable. Lately he has been struggling most notably with command. As someone mentioned, he had the number 9 hitter 0-2 and couldn't put him away. He then falls behind the next guy and has to come in with a cookie. It seems to me he struggles more with command when he goes 3 or 4 days without making an appearance. The lack of swing and miss is concerning and surprising. Last year he averaged over 10K per 9, this year less than 9. His WHIP has also jumped up to 1.30 from 1.17. I've defended him in the past but a save percentage of 83% isn't gonna cut it. While he had some good luck early on, the Baseball Gods seem like they are getting even. His last couple poor outings have had a lot of soft contact hits. Since the bull pen is used almost every game, there’s really no reason Boone can’t get him an inning in games we’re trailing or have a huge league…keep him sharp. We really should prey on Oakland and be willing to overpay a bit for Miller… |
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Post by ill636 on Jun 14, 2024 7:23:33 GMT -5
Which team seems to have a couple of young relievers that a filthy good. They throw hard and accurately. They did a job on the Yankees. Was it Seattle?
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Post by Max on Jun 14, 2024 11:30:19 GMT -5
Thanks for nothing Holmes....  In my opinion, sometimes he's Cardiac Clay and other times he's Surelock Holmes. |
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Post by Max on Jun 14, 2024 11:32:26 GMT -5
OK, just took another look at the infield hit, Holmes made a move to get the soft bouncer from Waters, realized he couldn't and headed right for the bag, but the original move froze Rizzo back, and delayed the pickup and toss to Holmes. That's how I saw that play too. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jun 14, 2024 11:48:56 GMT -5
OK, just took another look at the infield hit, Holmes made a move to get the soft bouncer from Waters, realized he couldn't and headed right for the bag, but the original move froze Rizzo back, and delayed the pickup and toss to Holmes. That's how I saw that play too. What I've noticed is that Rizzo has lost his aggressiveness charging slow groundballs like the one in the 9th inning yesterday. I don't know if it's because of his concussion issues, but when he was with the Cubs, he was known for how quickly he would come in for plays like yesterday's. Now, he seems slow to react, he actually did it twice yesterday and the baserunner reached both times. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jun 14, 2024 13:12:45 GMT -5
OK, just took another look at the infield hit, Holmes made a move to get the soft bouncer from Waters, realized he couldn't and headed right for the bag, but the original move froze Rizzo back, and delayed the pickup and toss to Holmes. That's how I saw that play too. That was one of those "stuff happens" plays...I got it, you take it. Easy to criticize, but IMO understandable. Looking at it after the fact it looked to me that the best play would've been for Holmes to field it and continue to the bag with no feed to Rizzo. But I can see how there was indecision in the moment. |
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Post by inger on Jun 14, 2024 13:46:00 GMT -5
That's how I saw that play too. That was one of those "stuff happens" plays...I got it, you take it. Easy to criticize, but IMO understandable. Looking at it after the fact it looked to me that the best play would've been for Holmes to field it and continue to the bag with no feed to Rizzo. But I can see how there was indecision in the moment. For the most part no two players would like to collide and crack their heads together… there may be exceptions, like Tommy Pham, but even he would have to find a willing partner… |
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