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Post by qwik3457bb on Jun 23, 2024 16:13:34 GMT -5
OK, notifications checked and responded to, I'm off to do whatever it is that I do do when I'm not doing this doo.
Enjoy the off-day, and I'm see you guys in the next game thread on Tuesday.
Good afternoon to all of you.
Bye.
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Post by Max on Jun 23, 2024 16:42:23 GMT -5
I apologize if I have mentioned this before. I don't know what the speed numbers say, but Sanders is the fastest player that I have ever seen on a MLB field. He was on 1B and I was in awe how fast he made it to home-plate on a hit to the right-center-field gap. Awe is not a word that I use often. World-class sprinter, great cornerback, explosive kick returner. Stole a lot of bases but got thrown out a bit too much, and used his extreme speed well in the field, once he mastered reading the ball off the bat. Hitting? Not so much, though he put up decent numbers from 1992 through 1995 in his half to 2/3 of season, before football season started.. If he had never played football and focused on baseball from a young age, he might have been another Kenny Lofton. qwik, I was sitting a few rows behind 1B, the way Sanders ran from 1B to Home-plate left me speechless. All I could say after that play was... "Wow!"
I didn't know that he was a world class sprinter. Yep, Sanders was a great football player.
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Post by Max on Jun 23, 2024 16:49:01 GMT -5
Well, a few positives. Nestor pitched a solid game and gave the team seven innings, which saved a tired and beaten up bullpen. Four hits today between Rice and Grisham, replacing starters. Kahnle is starting to look like Kahnle again, striking out the side. And, Holmes went 1-2-3 and gave up no runs, the first time in his last four outings.
I agree.
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Post by Max on Jun 23, 2024 16:51:08 GMT -5
A fine effort by Nestor, meanwhile the Yankees batting line-up was flat though out the game. I think if the Braves let Fried walk in the fall into MLB free agency, the Yankees should be right after him. I think he's one of the players that the Yankees will try to sign if they don't re-sign Soto. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jun 23, 2024 17:21:30 GMT -5
It wasn't even a good throw by Arcia and Volpe was still easily out, with the best hitter in the game up next. It was awful base running. So, you were coached to look behind you as a baserunner and when the ball is hit between you and the bag behind you to wait to see it through the infield? Sorry, Chi, we are all perturbed with how the Yankees have been playing, but that is just not how base running is coached. Volpe reacted as soon as the ball was hit and took off, which is the rule of thumb on that play. We can say it was unfortunate that the ball was not hit more slowly, but it is a reaction play without the benefit of replay before making the decision. It may not have been successful, but to expect a baserunner to freeze in the middle of the baseline with the ball behind him and the base or automatically to initially head backwards to the bag when the ball is put in play is just is not done. The more I think about this play I finally realized that when people our age played, there were rarely shifts, so the SS was always positioned in his traditional spot in the infield, and groundballs to him would be in front of a runner on second and pretty easy to gauge for the base runner. That's not really the case anymore where SS's are very often shaded towards 2nd base. It still don't like runners getting thrown out at third on ground balls with the heart of the lineup batting, but I can see where base running in that situation is not as clear cut as it used to be. |
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Post by bumper on Jun 23, 2024 18:04:58 GMT -5
well it "sounds" like it could be a month for stanton and think that's conservative. as we know it's takes him quite a while to get back into the swing of things - maybe in time for the PS. timing terrible as he was having a very good june. amazing the guy gets hurt literally jogging from 2nd to 3rd. maybe the yankees should lobby for a designated runner rule.
in any case, the lineup gets very short w/o him, putting more pressure on judge and soto. for better or worse, he was a presence in that lineup and will be missed. with verdugo slumping, torres lost in gleyberland, DJ w zero xtra base hits and now davis, the once potent offense is very weak 5-9.
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Post by inger on Jun 23, 2024 19:09:54 GMT -5
So, you were coached to look behind you as a baserunner and when the ball is hit between you and the bag behind you to wait to see it through the infield? Sorry, Chi, we are all perturbed with how the Yankees have been playing, but that is just not how base running is coached. Volpe reacted as soon as the ball was hit and took off, which is the rule of thumb on that play. We can say it was unfortunate that the ball was not hit more slowly, but it is a reaction play without the benefit of replay before making the decision. It may not have been successful, but to expect a baserunner to freeze in the middle of the baseline with the ball behind him and the base or automatically to initially head backwards to the bag when the ball is put in play is just is not done. The more I think about this play I finally realized that when people our age played, there were rarely shifts, so the SS was always positioned in his traditional spot in the infield, and groundballs to him would be in front of a runner on second and pretty easy to gauge for the base runner. That's not really the case anymore where SS's are very often shaded towards 2nd base. It still don't like runners getting thrown out at third on ground balls with the heart of the lineup batting, but I can see where base running in that situation is not as clear cut as it used to be. It’s a play that requires judgement, perhaps judgement beyond the wisdom of a 22 year old second year player. The hope s that it’s one and done and he learned something. I the minors it’s likely that the ball gets thrown away and he scores. This is the big leagues, sport… |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jun 24, 2024 16:49:44 GMT -5
World-class sprinter, great cornerback, explosive kick returner. Stole a lot of bases but got thrown out a bit too much, and used his extreme speed well in the field, once he mastered reading the ball off the bat. Hitting? Not so much, though he put up decent numbers from 1992 through 1995 in his half to 2/3 of season, before football season started.. If he had never played football and focused on baseball from a young age, he might have been another Kenny Lofton. qwik, I was sitting a few rows behind 1B, the way Sanders ran from 1B to Home-plate left me speechless. All I could say after that play was... "Wow!"
I didn't know that he was a world class sprinter. Yep, Sanders was a great football player.
Actually, Max, I overstated the case on Sanders' sprinting speed. He ran a 10.2 100 meters, which is an exceptional time for any athlete other than a dedicated sprinter. In the 60's, 70's and 80's, several runners has already cracked the 10 second barrier, and among football players, wide receiver Bob Hayes won an Olympic gold medal at the Tokyo Olympics in 1964 with a time of 10.06. The 10-second barrier was cracked at the 1968 Olympic Games at high altitude in Mexico City, and at low altitudes in the early 80's, and the record was right around 9.9 around the time Deion ran 10.2. and Deion's mark would be at least scors, and possibly hundreds of runners down that list. So, he was not as I described him, a "world-class" sprinter, as the term is meant. |
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