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Post by donniebaseball23 on Jun 25, 2024 22:37:57 GMT -5
Oof madone; we stink right now.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jun 26, 2024 2:57:31 GMT -5
Exactly; that’s what a 35 year old who never had superstar physical talent looks like. Chris Davis got to that level at age 34, or Carlos Pena at age 36, Chuck Knoblauch was headed that was but retired at age 33. There are many other examples in of players who were similar.
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Post by desousa on Jun 26, 2024 6:40:09 GMT -5
I think they need to have real discussions on Gleyber and DJLM they are just killing the team right now. Gleyber just decided he dint feel like running out a slow hit grounder DJL looked exactly like I would feel if I had to bend over to reach across my body for a ground ball ... it looked like his back wouldnt allow it In an interview after the game, Torres was asked about jogging to first base, and he claimed his groin was a little tight. I guess it's time to sit him for a few days. |
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Post by bumper on Jun 26, 2024 7:33:01 GMT -5
How many Millions $$$ has Gleyber cost himself this season ? He went from a $17-$22m 6-8 year player to ...??? $10-12M for 4ish ? He's a bad player right now Or a one year prove it deal if he doesn't get any good offers. that's what i see happening. don't envision a scenario where's he back.
previously i've been a fan and defender. hard to defend what i'm seeing now. his drop off this season has been remarkable and puzzling. declined in all facets of his game. being a free agent and then having a slow start has really messed with his head. tries too hard and to do too much. his swing is all over the place and the mental errors have increased.
given the state of the team due to injuries. he is one of the veterans who really needs to step up or else we could be heading down that 2022 road again.
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Post by bumper on Jun 26, 2024 7:43:17 GMT -5
God-awful at bat from LeMahieu. Watches two strikes then swings a ball nearly in the dirt. I expect more from a former LSU boy and two-time batting champion. It's tough to watch because DJ is so likeable but man he looks really bad out there. dj's on the same list as torres as a veteran who needs to pick up the slack. and yeah it's been tough watching him rollover balls or hit weak flies. while i never expect to see ".300 dj", will give him the benefit of doubt due to the injury and not getting enough ABs. on the other hand, it could simply be a case of father time taking over. |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Jun 26, 2024 8:35:28 GMT -5
DJ is 22 games and 69 at bats in and has yet to smack an extra base hit. He adds nothing right now, but unfortunately, a razor-thin bench leaves few other options.
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Post by bumper on Jun 26, 2024 9:25:20 GMT -5
and of course verdugo 2-31 since his return to boston, needs to get back on track. that's 3 veteran bats that are not contributing.
like what i've seen of rice so far and fine w the platoon w davis. throw either jones or grisham into the mix and the catchers being what they are, 4-9 in the lineup is a wasteland.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 26, 2024 9:37:50 GMT -5
Can only run so many <.220 hitters out there and expect to be consistently competitive. When J D Davis is an upgrade to your roster, your roster has serous issues. With that said, Verdugo should come out of his slump. Not sure Gleyber or DJ can. One of them sure needs to. Davis is not bad, really. Even at 31, he's a major league average hitter, and with what they have as an alternative, it's an improvement. Certainly worth a Groshans, who was a top 100 prospects on all three major lists...5 years ago...4 years ago...3 years ago. But not anymore. He's on his 4th team at age 24 with just 17 major league games played to this point...and was hitting .230 in AA and AAA with almost zero power. The curious part of Davis' stats this year is that he's been far better at home, in a very bad hitter's park in Oakland, than he's been on the road. Most likely explanation? Small sample size weirdness. JD didn't play for 10 days before last night and had 18 hr last season. I'm willing to give the guy a chance but they need to use him properly give him the or rice the dh abs while Stanton is gone and the other at 1B. Enough with this jones crap the guy is terrible. For the most part this roster does not have the issue of last season where it's filled with AAAA guys. Jones is really the only truely terrible player. Grisham has been getting better on the bench and I think rice and Davis will be useful. Berti is also good when he comes back too. The problem right now is the Yankees weak spots are behind exposed and the Yankees are doing nothing about it. DJLM is killing this team with him I dunno if it can be fixed. I think the injuries have caught up with him and he's not even his risp self anymore. Gleyber I think it could be fixed he's still young and mostly healthy but I fear if he's getting into the mentality like Gary Sanchez was towards the end where the effort just isn't there. I know he's better than .215 7 hr and a .294 obp. I think he might need a mental reset even if this groin injury is minimal maybe just a quick 10 day il would just to recharge. Trevino has become way too much of a problem lately. You can't just keep giving up sb I dunno how to fix that. I do want to see wells get some more playing time though his offense capability seems to be suffering by barely playing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 26, 2024 9:42:49 GMT -5
So to sum all that up I think 2B 3B and the Catcher throwing issue are hurting the Yankees the most right now.
Obviously some bullpen arms and Cole being Cole need to come around too but I'm not really worried about that because the Yankees usually find guys to plug in for pitching spots.
Biggest issue is you can't keep giving these teams extra outs by lazy play offensively by not running plays out and defensively by making mental mistakes.
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Post by azbob643 on Jun 26, 2024 10:02:25 GMT -5
I’ve been a fan of DJ since his time with the Rockies and was very happy when the Yanks originally signed him. I also wanted them to re-sign him in ’21, but would’ve preferred a shorter deal, and said so at the time. But the Yanks are always concerned with the LT which, BTW, is repeatedly self-inflicted by handing out long-term contracts. You’d think they would’ve learned by now.
Most players begin to decline approaching their mid-30’s, and there’s no reason to think DJ is any different. As I’ve previously said, 4 years @ $20M per probably would’ve gotten the job done. Or Yanks could’ve included a buyout after 4 years. Even if he comes back to a respectable level this year, they’re facing 2 more years of what appears to be a player in steep decline.
As for Gleyber…I’ve been solidly in his corner for several years, especially when he’s been unjustly criticized even while having the type of year he had in ’23. But there’s no question as both O’Neill & Cone said during last night’s game that he’s obviously been mentally worn down by his struggles. A few days off might help, but it’s gonna take a huge turnaround for him to remain with this team next year. I still believe he’ll be a solid player for many years to come, but that may require a fresh start somewhere else.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 26, 2024 10:34:22 GMT -5
I’ve been a fan of DJ since his time with the Rockies and was very happy when the Yanks originally signed him. I also wanted them to re-sign him in ’21, but would’ve preferred a shorter deal, and said so at the time. But the Yanks are always concerned with the LT which, BTW, is repeatedly self-inflicted by handing out long-term contracts. You’d think they would’ve learned by now. Most players begin to decline approaching their mid-30’s, and there’s no reason to think DJ is any different. As I’ve previously said, 4 years @ $20M per probably would’ve gotten the job done. Or Yanks could’ve included a buyout after 4 years. Even if he comes back to a respectable level this year, they’re facing 2 more years of what appears to be a player in steep decline. As for Gleyber…I’ve been solidly in his corner for several years, especially when he’s been unjustly criticized even while having the type of year he had in ’23. But there’s no question as both O’Neill & Cone said during last night’s game that he’s obviously been mentally worn down by his struggles. A few days off might help, but it’s gonna take a huge turnaround for him to remain with this team next year. I still believe he’ll be a solid player for many years to come, but that may require a fresh start somewhere else. I think they need to decide in the next month what the Gleyber plan is now... they need production from 2B .215 and a .294 obp and lazy play isn't cutting it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by azbob643 on Jun 26, 2024 10:55:12 GMT -5
I think they need to decide in the next month what the Gleyber plan is now... they need production from 2B .215 and a .294 obp and lazy play isn't cutting it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sure...they can't, and won't, continue without offensive production from that position much longer. Don't think Peraza is the answer, but Durbin, Cowles or Vivas might provide a spark. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 26, 2024 10:57:36 GMT -5
I think they need to decide in the next month what the Gleyber plan is now... they need production from 2B .215 and a .294 obp and lazy play isn't cutting it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sure...they can't, and won't, continue without offensive production from that position much longer. Don't think Peraza is the answer, but Durbin, Cowles or Vivas might provide a spark. When you got the announcers on your own network pointing out the laziness that's not good Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by chiyankee on Jun 26, 2024 10:59:25 GMT -5
Sure...they can't, and won't, continue without offensive production from that position much longer. Don't think Peraza is the answer, but Durbin, Cowles or Vivas might provide a spark. When you got the announcers on your own network pointing out the laziness that's not good Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Strange how these same announcers never point when Verdugo and Rizzo slow jog down the line. Only Gleyber. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 26, 2024 11:00:38 GMT -5
When you got the announcers on your own network pointing out the laziness that's not good Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Strange how these same announcers never point when Verdugo and Rizzo slow jog down the line. Only Gleyber. I've noticed that too that's why I'm finding the whole Gleyber situation similar to Gary Sanchez are they hinting at showing him the door? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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