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Post by pimmersj on Jul 6, 2024 9:19:46 GMT -5
After last night’s gut punch of a loss this team is now 5-15 in their last twenty games. The problem is as it stands right now there’s little reason to think the next twenty will be that much better. And with that is the possibility that a team that started on fire with the best record for a lot of the second half, will be passed in the wild card standings.
I’m not trying to be the ultimate pessimist but the way they’re constituted right now where is there any signs to be optimistic. Will they win some games because Judge and or Soto have huge games? I guess but they’re going to see less and less good pitches to hit. Will be see some dominant starts by this staff that single handedly wins games? I guess but there has been no consistency with this staff since Cole’s return.
The biggest issues remain and aren’t suddenly going to get better. This bullpen for one absolutely stinks. Then you have the biggest issue of all and that’s the lineup they’re forced to put out there everyday. Judge and Soto aside. And you can’t expect them both to continue Ruth like numbers when they have no protection in this lineup.
Volpe looks nothing like the hitter he was to start the season. His on base is pitiful and has lost any pop in his bat.
Verdugo looks like a head case. His production has absolutely plummeted and his at bats are terrible.
DJ is obviously absolutely cooked. Can do little more than pound balls into the ground.
Torres hasn’t gotten anything going all season. Miserable average and no power or ability to drive in runs.
Grisham, Jones and Cabrera? Meh not scaring anyone.
Ben Davis looks like a player but can he be expected to carry the lead off spot?
Rizzo will return but he has been a void since trying to play through a concussion.
Stanton and his production loss was the last straw really as nobody else in the lineup is stepping up. Plus, you’re just waiting for the inevitable Stanton injury or two every season.
The bottom line is even though the August schedule looks beatable on paper. They might sink themselves so far in July it won’t matter. Especially when the Orioles have definitely made a strong case of being the better team.
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Post by jerseyperson on Jul 6, 2024 16:03:46 GMT -5
Many posts on the current slide focus on hitters, same with hosts and callers on radio. It seems to me the cause is 90% pitching. Am I missing something?
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 6, 2024 16:18:14 GMT -5
Many posts on the current slide focus on hitters, same with hosts and callers on radio. It seems to me the cause is 90% pitching. Am I missing something? Both have simultaneously lacking…that’s the recipe for a freefall. |
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Post by pimmersj on Jul 6, 2024 18:51:17 GMT -5
Great game today even though Cole still isn’t Cole. It only matters if they can put together a streak and some of these guys stay hot.
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Post by kaybli on Jul 6, 2024 19:21:33 GMT -5
Many posts on the current slide focus on hitters, same with hosts and callers on radio. It seems to me the cause is 90% pitching. Am I missing something? Welcome to the board, jerseyperson!  Both the offense and the pitching have fallen apart but I do agree with you that many have focused on the bats. Hopefully todays win got the offense turned around and the pitching will follow. |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 7, 2024 9:29:24 GMT -5
Many posts on the current slide focus on hitters, same with hosts and callers on radio. It seems to me the cause is 90% pitching. Am I missing something? When the Yankees swapped pitching for the best left handed bat in baseball the focus went on the offense for the '24 season. Especially with Cole on the shelf, many of us fans looked for the hitters to carry the team through the bad spots. If anything, I think the pitching staff was punching over its wegiht during the first 70 games. |
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Post by pimmersj on Jul 7, 2024 20:44:02 GMT -5
I was wrong. This gutless team has collapsed.
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Post by noetsi on Jul 8, 2024 12:32:46 GMT -5
They are not gutless, but they are not the super team they briefly appeared. We missed the play offs, this is a better team than that. But ending up at .600 would be fine for this team. We were worse than we appeared at first and better than we are now, and thus are pretty much at the record one might reasonably hope for.
Talent not courage or morale drives wins. We are a good, but not maybe elite team. We are very thin at hitting or pitching so injuries matter.
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Post by inger on Jul 8, 2024 13:00:46 GMT -5
They are not gutless, but they are not the super team they briefly appeared. We missed the play offs, this is a better team than that. But ending up at .600 would be fine for this team. We were worse than we appeared at first and better than we are now, and thus are pretty much at the record one might reasonably hope for. Talent not courage or morale drives wins. We are a good, but not maybe elite team. We are very thin at hitting or pitching so injuries matter. Wow Russ. Very non-negative. I’m proud of you. |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 8, 2024 16:53:10 GMT -5
They are not gutless, but they are not the super team they briefly appeared. We missed the play offs, this is a better team than that. But ending up at .600 would be fine for this team. We were worse than we appeared at first and better than we are now, and thus are pretty much at the record one might reasonably hope for. Talent not courage or morale drives wins. We are a good, but not maybe elite team. We are very thin at hitting or pitching so injuries matter. Anthony Volpe did not stop running to admire the game on Friday night because of a lack of talent; nor for that matter did DJ continue running into a sure out on that same play reflect at all on his ability. On Sunday OC got doublled off on a ball he hd to recognize had been hit direclty toward a RS fielder....that was not due to insufficient talent. Nor were any of the other examples in recent of weeks of lack of hustle or desire. Talent without effort usually fails. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 8, 2024 17:48:10 GMT -5
They are not gutless, but they are not the super team they briefly appeared. We missed the play offs, this is a better team than that. But ending up at .600 would be fine for this team. We were worse than we appeared at first and better than we are now, and thus are pretty much at the record one might reasonably hope for. Talent not courage or morale drives wins. We are a good, but not maybe elite team. We are very thin at hitting or pitching so injuries matter. Anthony Volpe did not stop running to admire the game on Friday night because of a lack of talent; nor for that matter did DJ continue running into a sure out on that same play reflect at all on his ability. On Sunday OC got doublled off on a ball he hd to recognize had been hit direclty toward a RS fielder....that was not due to insufficient talent. Nor were any of the other examples in recent of weeks of lack of hustle or desire. Talent without effort usually fails. Exactly, it doesn't take talent to play hard and play the right way. When players continue to not do these things, it's a reflection on management that continues to allow it to happen. |
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Post by noetsi on Jul 10, 2024 11:03:21 GMT -5
Anthony Volpe did not stop running to admire the game on Friday night because of a lack of talent; nor for that matter did DJ continue running into a sure out on that same play reflect at all on his ability. On Sunday OC got doublled off on a ball he hd to recognize had been hit direclty toward a RS fielder....that was not due to insufficient talent. Nor were any of the other examples in recent of weeks of lack of hustle or desire. Talent without effort usually fails. Exactly, it doesn't take talent to play hard and play the right way. When players continue to not do these things, it's a reflection on management that continues to allow it to happen. Or it's a reflection they are either inexperienced or simply made mistakes. There were blunders even on the great teams in the nineties. The real problem on this team is we don't have enough offense because cashman never thought it mattered. Even if we try to fix it, it will take a long time. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 10, 2024 14:40:06 GMT -5
Exactly, it doesn't take talent to play hard and play the right way. When players continue to not do these things, it's a reflection on management that continues to allow it to happen. Or it's a reflection they are either inexperienced or simply made mistakes. There were blunders even on the great teams in the nineties. The real problem on this team is we don't have enough offense because cashman never thought it mattered. Even if we try to fix it, it will take a long time. It doesn't take a lot of experience to run hard. |
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Post by rizzuto on Jul 10, 2024 17:17:29 GMT -5
Or it's a reflection they are either inexperienced or simply made mistakes. There were blunders even on the great teams in the nineties. The real problem on this team is we don't have enough offense because cashman never thought it mattered. Even if we try to fix it, it will take a long time. It doesn't take a lot of experience to run hard. "Run hard to first base four times a day. Not a bad way to make a living." - Frank Howard |
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Post by inger on Jul 10, 2024 21:47:38 GMT -5
It doesn't take a lot of experience to run hard. "Run hard to first base four times a day. Not a bad way to make a living." - Frank Howard Of course Howard could run hard and STILL never get there… |
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