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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 7, 2024 20:56:26 GMT -5
Another bad loss. Unless Cash pulls a rabbit out of his hat at the TDL, I don't see this team going on a run. Too inconsistent and too many holes. I know a lot of posters are being critical of Boone for not pulling Gil and I think it was a tough call but don't have a problem with him starting the 7th. He was at 85 pitches and pitching really well. He made a bad pitch to Devers and it cost him but our pen has been so bad I understand him trying to get 1 more inning out of the kid. Our best 2 RPs of late each gave up a run so that decision didn't cost us the game. The Yankees inability to plate even a single run against a SP who had been struggling was what cost us the game. 55, I agree that it was a hard call. But given the heat and humidity, the fact that he hadn't gotten deep into any of his last three games, the fact that he doesn't get past 6 most games anyway, the fact that the 'good relievers' had at least one day off each, the fact that the team has a day off tomorrow, and that, no matter what Perez said, he had to work HARD to get through the 6th, 25 pitches, by far the most of the game up to that point, I would have pulled him on the high note of whiffing Hamilton, rather than have him face the Sox 3-4-5 again. in my inning-ending summary in the thread, I said: "Gil has to work hard, but gets through the 6th unschathed. I don't think he starts the 7th. The Sox are getting closer to hitting him." Again, that ISN't a 'great call' by me; it's a bit hedged, as most of my calls and semi-calls are. But I could see the Sox working deep counts and fouling balls straight back or pulling some hard and foul, and it seemed to me likely they'd catch up to him in the 7th. And he gave Devers a FB he could reach, and he reached it. It didn't turn out to matter much, as the offense did nothing, and the two relievers each coughed up a solo HR to add tack-on runs, but I had a feeling that the first team that "blinked" tonight would get the L, and that's what happened. That makes me no kind of genius, just a fan of a team that has shown all of its weaknesses in great detail the last 20 games. |
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Post by inger on Jul 7, 2024 21:02:34 GMT -5
Another bad loss. Unless Cash pulls a rabbit out of his hat at the TDL, I don't see this team going on a run. Too inconsistent and too many holes. I know a lot of posters are being critical of Boone for not pulling Gil and I think it was a tough call but don't have a problem with him starting the 7th. He was at 85 pitches and pitching really well. He made a bad pitch to Devers and it cost him but our pen has been so bad I understand him trying to get 1 more inning out of the kid. Our best 2 RPs of late each gave up a run so that decision didn't cost us the game. The Yankees inability to plate even a single run against a SP who had been struggling was what cost us the game. 55, I agree that it was a hard call. But given the heat and humidity, the fact that he hadn't gotten deep into any of his last three games, the fact that he doesn't get past 6 most games anyway, the fact that the 'good relievers' had at least one day off each, the fact that the team has a day off tomorrow, and that, no matter what Perez said, he had to work HARD to get through the 6th, 25 pitches, by far the most of the game up to that point, I would have pulled him on the high note of whiffing Hamilton, rather than have him face the Sox 3-4-5 again. in my inning-ending summary in the thread, I said: "Gil has to work hard, but gets through the 6th unschathed. I don't think he starts the 7th. The Sox are getting closer to hitting him." Again, that ISN't a 'great call' by me; it's a bit hedged, as most of my calls and semi-calls are. But I could see the Sox working deep counts and fouling balls straight back or pulling some hard and foul, and it seemed to me likely they'd catch up to him in the 7th. And he gave Devers a FB he could reach, and he reached it. It didn't turn out to matter much, as the offense did nothing, the the two relievers each coughted up a solo HR to add tack-on runs, but I had a feeling that the first team that "blinked" tonight would get the L, and that's what happened. That makes me no kind of genius, just a fan of a team that has shown all of its weaknesses in great detail the last 20 games. I was very surprised that he went out for the seventh… |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 7, 2024 21:03:33 GMT -5
Another bad loss. Unless Cash pulls a rabbit out of his hat at the TDL, I don't see this team going on a run. Too inconsistent and too many holes. I know a lot of posters are being critical of Boone for not pulling Gil and I think it was a tough call but don't have a problem with him starting the 7th. He was at 85 pitches and pitching really well. He made a bad pitch to Devers and it cost him but our pen has been so bad I understand him trying to get 1 more inning out of the kid. Our best 2 RPs of late each gave up a run so that decision didn't cost us the game. The Yankees inability to plate even a single run against a SP who had been struggling was what cost us the game. 55, I agree that it was a hard call. But given the heat and humidity, the fact that he hadn't gotten deep into any of his last three games, the fact that he doesn't get past 6 most games anyway, the fact that the 'good relievers' had at least one day off each, the fact that the team has a day off tomorrow, and that, no matter what Perez said, he had to work HARD to get through the 6th, 25 pitches, by far the most of the game up to that point, I would have pulled him on the high note of whiffing Hamilton, rather than have him face the Sox 3-4-5 again. in my inning-ending summary in the thread, I said: "Gil has to work hard, but gets through the 6th unschathed. I don't think he starts the 7th. The Sox are getting closer to hitting him." Again, that ISN't a 'great call' by me; it's a bit hedged, as most of my calls and semi-calls are. But I could see the Sox working deep counts and fouling balls straight back or pulling some hard and foul, and it seemed to me likely they'd catch up to him in the 7th. And he gave Devers a FB he could reach, and he reached it. It didn't turn out to matter much, as the offense did nothing, the the two relievers each coughted up a solo HR to add tack-on runs, but I had a feeling that the first team that "blinked" tonight would get the L, and that's what happened. That makes me no kind of genius, just a fan of a team that has shown all of its weaknesses in great detail the last 20 games. And you might want to add that you wanted Gil to leave the game feeling good about himself. As it is, a plus effort end in an L. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 7, 2024 21:11:59 GMT -5
All good points and I wouldn't have had a problem with taking him out I just have a really hard time seeing this BP get 9 outs in a scoreless game.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 7, 2024 21:12:04 GMT -5
OK, the Yanks get a day off tomorrow, then to Tampa to take on the Rays, who had been playing much better winning 9 out of 12 at one point, but got swept over the weekend in Texas.
1st game is 6:50 pm Tuesday evening on YES. Carlos Rodon, who looked somewhat better in losing his 4th game in a row against the Reds 4 days ago after getting annihilated the 3 starts before, goes for the Yanks. He's now 9-6 on the season with a 4.45 ERA. Ryan Pepiot, 4-5 with a 4.40 ERA, the key piece in the trade that sent Tyler Glasnow to the Dodgers, starts for the Rays. Pepiot hasn't made it through 5 innings in 3 of his last 4 starts.
2nd game is 6:50 pm, the Prime Delayed Video annoying Game of the Week. Marcus Stroman (7-4 with a 3.58 ERA)will start for the Yanks, trying to improve on back-to-back poor outings against the Jays and Reds. Zack Eflin (5-5, ERA 4.19) starts for the Rays, he got a cheap W in a poor start against the Royals (7 hits and 5 ER in 5 innings) last time out.
The series finale is 6:50 Thursday evening on YES. Nestor Cortes (4-7, 3.41 ERA) will trying for just his 2nd win his last 9 starts. He pitched an outstanding 6 innings against the Red Sox on Friday, but his win was flushed by Holmes in the 9th. Shane Baz will be making just his 2nd start of the season after nearly two years on the IL, first with arthroscopic elbow surgery, then a platelet-rich injection in the araa, before finnally giving up and having Tommy John surgery in late September, 2022. His first start against the Rangers went OK: 6 innings, 7 hits, 3 runs, 1 BB and 6 K, so he's 0-1 with a 4.50 ERA after 1 game.
Series preview done, I'll check notifications, I think I have a lot of catching up to do.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 7, 2024 21:12:58 GMT -5
All good points and I wouldn't have had a problem with taking him out I just have a really hard time seeing this BP get 9 outs in a scoreless game. That too is valid. As my friend Mike says from time to time, "good points all around the room". |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 7, 2024 21:14:29 GMT -5
55, I agree that it was a hard call. But given the heat and humidity, the fact that he hadn't gotten deep into any of his last three games, the fact that he doesn't get past 6 most games anyway, the fact that the 'good relievers' had at least one day off each, the fact that the team has a day off tomorrow, and that, no matter what Perez said, he had to work HARD to get through the 6th, 25 pitches, by far the most of the game up to that point, I would have pulled him on the high note of whiffing Hamilton, rather than have him face the Sox 3-4-5 again. in my inning-ending summary in the thread, I said: "Gil has to work hard, but gets through the 6th unschathed. I don't think he starts the 7th. The Sox are getting closer to hitting him." Again, that ISN't a 'great call' by me; it's a bit hedged, as most of my calls and semi-calls are. But I could see the Sox working deep counts and fouling balls straight back or pulling some hard and foul, and it seemed to me likely they'd catch up to him in the 7th. And he gave Devers a FB he could reach, and he reached it. It didn't turn out to matter much, as the offense did nothing, the the two relievers each coughted up a solo HR to add tack-on runs, but I had a feeling that the first team that "blinked" tonight would get the L, and that's what happened. That makes me no kind of genius, just a fan of a team that has shown all of its weaknesses in great detail the last 20 games. And you might want to add that you wanted Gil to leave the game feeling good about himself. As it is, a plus effort end in an L. That too, paterson. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 7, 2024 21:20:57 GMT -5
Now the inevitable manager interview, interrupting Rice's at bat. God ESPN is insufferable. They're trying to achieve "broader appeal" by "humanizing the competitors" but it's just irritatiing to more serious fans. Rarely is anything significant discussed, just checklist questions getting usual boilerplate post-game interview type answers. Players and managers are too "into the game" to offer anything insightful, or even thoughtful. As they should be. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 7, 2024 21:25:20 GMT -5
OK, notifications checked ans some responded to, I'll get going.
Enjoy the off-day; I'll see in you in the game thread sometime before first pitch Tuesday with the usual buttload uhhh, boatload of pre-game thingies.
Good night to all of you.
Bye.
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 7, 2024 21:26:56 GMT -5
All good points and I wouldn't have had a problem with taking him out I just have a really hard time seeing this BP get 9 outs in a scoreless game. Just like I would have felt nervous if they had a one run after 8 innings, because everyone has lost confidence in Holmes, except Boone. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 7, 2024 21:31:24 GMT -5
I usually don't turn a game off before it's over but I shut this one off before the second Devers HR landed.
The most frustrating part was that they wasted outstanding outings by Nestor and Gil, the exact kind of starts they never got against Boston in the past. With just a little help from the offense and Holmes, they could have swept this series.
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Post by NYYOSO on Jul 7, 2024 21:32:37 GMT -5
Look on the bright side. Tomorrow is a day off, which means they can’t lose a whole game in the race, only a .5, because, well, we know they would lose if they played.
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Post by JEGnj on Jul 7, 2024 21:34:22 GMT -5
From the box score looks like at least Gil was solid. Offense was a big ZERO.
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 7, 2024 21:37:11 GMT -5
I was very surprised that he went out for the seventh… I wasn't surprised Gil came back for the 7th but I thought it was one and done and Boone only wanted him to pitch to O'Neill. I didn't think he would face Devers again. |
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Post by bigjeep on Jul 7, 2024 22:12:53 GMT -5
This is not a Championship team! Pitching is weak! The talent is just not coming up through the system!  |
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