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Post by pimmersj on Jul 11, 2024 21:04:26 GMT -5
Stupid pinch hit earlier means Trevino is up next instead of Wells. that was a terrible pinch hit. everyone involved had reverse splits. poche not good against LH batters. much better against RH. wells actually hits LH well and trevino doesn't. throw in that trevino has been slumping and is 3 for last 30. nothing about the move made sense. moot because they never got to the trevino. Boone is an imbecile and can’t get away from this team fast enough. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 11, 2024 21:06:14 GMT -5
Yanks limp into the end of the first half with a 3-game series against the O's in Baltimore, who will be out for blood after getting swept by a mediocre Cubs team in their building.
Game 1 is 7:05 tomorrow evening on YES: Gerrit Cole (1-1, 6.75 ERA) goes for the Yanks, trying to bounce back from a poor start against the Red Sox that the Yankees offense bailed him out on by pounding the their bullpen. Rookie Cade Povich (1-3 with a 6.51 ERA) is coming off an even worse beating at the hands of the A's, of all teams, and will start for the O's.
Game 2 is 4:05 Saturday afternoon on YES: Luis Gil (9-5, 3.27 ERA), coming of his first great start in 6 games against the Red Sox, starts for the Yanks. He'll have to beat Grayson Rodriguez, tied for the league lead in wins (11-3 with a 3.52 ERA). Rodiguez has throws 6 great games in his last 7, winning them all, with one pasting at the hands of the Astros right in the middle of the 7 starts.
Game 3 is the obnoxious Sunday morning Roku game, starting at 11:35: Carlos Rodon will get an early start on his All-Star Break, assuming he gets knocked out early again. He's now 0-7 on the year, having lost five in a row, and not getting past 5 1/3 innings in any of them. Dean Kramer starts for the O's, he's 4-5 with a 4.42 ERA after getting smacked around by the Cubs in the first game of the series the O's just got swept in.
OK, series preview done, I'll check notifications.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 11, 2024 21:07:04 GMT -5
Stupid pinch hit earlier means Trevino is up next instead of Wells. that was a terrible pinch hit. everyone involved had reverse splits. poche not good against LH batters. much better against RH. wells actually hits LH well and trevino doesn't. throw in that trevino has been slumping and is 3 for last 30. nothing about the move made sense. moot because they never got to the trevino. Can't really argue with this, bump. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 11, 2024 21:09:07 GMT -5
Stupid pinch hit earlier means Trevino is up next instead of Wells. that was a terrible pinch hit. everyone involved had reverse splits. poche not good against LH batters. much better against RH. wells actually hits LH well and trevino doesn't. throw in that trevino has been slumping and is 3 for last 30. nothing about the move made sense. moot because they never got to the trevino. Makes it worse that Wells was already 2 for 3 tonight with a HR. |
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Post by bigjeep on Jul 11, 2024 21:10:57 GMT -5
Cortes is not a 2 pitcher, more like a mid to bottom of a rotation guy! Pitching needs a major overall!  |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 11, 2024 21:15:10 GMT -5
Cortes is not a 2 pitcher, more like a mid to bottom of a rotation guy! Pitching needs a major overall! The pitching would look a lot better if the Yankees scored. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 11, 2024 21:15:54 GMT -5
It's absolutely true that Cora and Cash are clearly better than Boone, but some of that is roster construction. Their GMs build their rosters with Yankee-killers on offense, in the rotation and in the pen, and Cashman doesn't. So they usually have a sound rotation for a series with the Yanks, and mutltiple viable in-game options. Rays have one World Series appearance in a 60 game season under Cash. Rest are alds or earlier exits...not sure how that can be called greatest manager. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I didn't say he was the greatest manager, but he might be. He constantly has to deal with juggling a roster without many complete players, because the Rays can't afford to keep them. Their big prospect Wander Franco torpedoed his own career by getting himself charged in the Dominican Republic with sexual abuse, sexual exploitation of a minor, and human trafficking (two days ago, in fact). The relief staff has major changes every year, and he juggles what he has brilliantly. The rotation has suffered multiple long-term key injuries the last two year, and STILL, the Rays contend just about every year; they've made the playoffs the last five years with a payroll less than half of that of the Yankees; most years, the Rays' payroll is about 1/3 of the Yankees' payroll. A lot of that is their team officers, especially in player development and scouting, but they also chose Cash, and he's been able to work well with what they give him, year after year. You have to respect that. The Rays have early exits from the postseason largely for the same reason Billy Beane's Moneyball A's did the same: because the lack of star players and pitchers shows up in the post-season most of all. I don't know if Cash would be able to deal with Cashman and the Yankees' analytical team, but I hope he gets the chance to try someday. |
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Post by bumper on Jul 11, 2024 21:19:34 GMT -5
that was a terrible pinch hit. everyone involved had reverse splits. poche not good against LH batters. much better against RH. wells actually hits LH well and trevino doesn't. throw in that trevino has been slumping and is 3 for last 30. nothing about the move made sense. moot because they never got to the trevino. Makes it worse that Wells was already 2 for 3 tonight with a HR. beat me to it. was just gonna update my post. trevino has been ice cold. i'm not a boone "must go" guy but this move really made sense no matter how you parse it. to be fair to trevino, at least 1 of those pitches wasn't a strike and one was borderline. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 11, 2024 21:20:10 GMT -5
As bad as Grisham has been a lot of the time, there's no way they're PHing the righty Davis for the lefty Grisham against a hard-throwing righty with a solid slider. I know I'm joking jd Davis is basically a ghost at this point Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Oh, OK. Didn't get that the first time. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 11, 2024 21:22:53 GMT -5
Ok, caught up with the notifications, so I guess I'll get going.
See you tomorrow evening for the first game of the last series in Baltimore this year, unless they meet up in the playoffs.
Good night to all.
Bye.
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 11, 2024 21:29:12 GMT -5
Rays have one World Series appearance in a 60 game season under Cash. Rest are alds or earlier exits...not sure how that can be called greatest manager. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I didn't say he was the greatest manager, but he might be. He constantly has to deal with juggling a roster without many complete players, because the Rays can't afford to keep them. Their big prospect Wander Franco torpedoed his own career by getting himself charged in the Dominican Republic with sexual abuse, sexual exploitation of a minor, and human trafficking (two days ago, in fact). The relief staff has major changes every year, and he juggles what he has brilliantly. The rotation has suffered multiple long-term key injuries the last two year, and STILL, the Rays contend just about every year; they've made the playoffs the last five years with a payroll less than half of that of the Yankees; most years, the Rays' payroll is about 1/3 of the Yankees' payroll. A lot of that is their team officers, especially in player development and scouting, but they also chose Cash, and he's been able to work well with what they give him, year after year. You have to respect that. The Rays have early exits from the postseason largely for the same reason Billy Beane's Moneyball A's did the same: because the lack of star players and pitchers shows up in the post-season most of all. I don't know if Cash would be able to deal with Cashman and the Yankees' analytical team, but I hope he gets the chance to try someday. I have no idea where Cash ranks among all 30 managers, but he would clearly be a better option than Boone, but that's not breaking news. |
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Post by Renfield on Jul 11, 2024 21:31:55 GMT -5
Thanks again for the play-by-play qwik. Frustrating game, but this whole month has been frustrating. Seems like our hitters, besides Soto (with Judge slumping), are only capable of getting the occasional random hit which seldom amounts to multi-run innings and frequent fails with risp. I'd be curious to know what Volpe, Verdugo, Wells and DJ are hitting over the last month. At least 2 of those guys need to get going or I fear this season will continue to spiral downward. Oh well, maybe we can get something going against the O's.
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 11, 2024 21:49:50 GMT -5
Rays have one World Series appearance in a 60 game season under Cash. Rest are alds or earlier exits...not sure how that can be called greatest manager. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I didn't say he was the greatest manager, but he might be. He constantly has to deal with juggling a roster without many complete players, because the Rays can't afford to keep them. Their big prospect Wander Franco torpedoed his own career by getting himself charged in the Dominican Republic with sexual abuse, sexual exploitation of a minor, and human trafficking (two days ago, in fact). The relief staff has major changes every year, and he juggles what he has brilliantly. The rotation has suffered multiple long-term key injuries the last two year, and STILL, the Rays contend just about every year; they've made the playoffs the last five years with a payroll less than half of that of the Yankees; most years, the Rays' payroll is about 1/3 of the Yankees' payroll. A lot of that is their team officers, especially in player development and scouting, but they also chose Cash, and he's been able to work well with what they give him, year after year. You have to respect that. The Rays have early exits from the postseason largely for the same reason Billy Beane's Moneyball A's did the same: because the lack of star players and pitchers shows up in the post-season most of all. I don't know if Cash would be able to deal with Cashman and the Yankees' analytical team, but I hope he gets the chance to try someday. Qwik, your second sentence up to the comma can actually pertain to much of the Boone tenure. |
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Post by inger on Jul 11, 2024 23:11:05 GMT -5
I forget the original context for this one but its apt in this situation:
My shoulders are definitely broader that that puny body you put on me… |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 12, 2024 3:32:29 GMT -5
I didn't say he was the greatest manager, but he might be. He constantly has to deal with juggling a roster without many complete players, because the Rays can't afford to keep them. Their big prospect Wander Franco torpedoed his own career by getting himself charged in the Dominican Republic with sexual abuse, sexual exploitation of a minor, and human trafficking (two days ago, in fact). The relief staff has major changes every year, and he juggles what he has brilliantly. The rotation has suffered multiple long-term key injuries the last two year, and STILL, the Rays contend just about every year; they've made the playoffs the last five years with a payroll less than half of that of the Yankees; most years, the Rays' payroll is about 1/3 of the Yankees' payroll. A lot of that is their team officers, especially in player development and scouting, but they also chose Cash, and he's been able to work well with what they give him, year after year. You have to respect that. The Rays have early exits from the postseason largely for the same reason Billy Beane's Moneyball A's did the same: because the lack of star players and pitchers shows up in the post-season most of all. I don't know if Cash would be able to deal with Cashman and the Yankees' analytical team, but I hope he gets the chance to try someday. Qwik, your second sentence up to the comma can actually pertain to much of the Boone tenure. I'd say you're right to a certain extent, 55. The thing is, Cash has never had a hitter as great as Judge, or a pitcher as great as Cole. Longoria was a tremendous player, and the Rays were able to keep him for 10 seasons, but Cash had him for just 3 and he was never as great as Judge was in the seasons Judge was Healthy (2017, 2022, and this year). McClanhan is a great starter, but he can't stay healthy, and neither could Glasnow. Having that concentration of value in 1-3 top players is an enormous advantage to a team and a manager. What Cash has had is a more balanced roster with multiple options everywhere, and the last 2-3 Yankee teams haven't had that. Cash works through that, and knows their strengths and weaknesses inside and out, and always seems to use the players in spots where their strengths can shine, and the weaknesses are hidden, or at least diminished. I don't get that impression watching Boone work with the Yankees roster. Maybe that impression is wrong and maybe the main fault is Cashman's roster construction and not Boone's manipulation, but I think that if you watch them head-to-head, you'll see Boone cornered far more often than Cash, and Cash ready with a good move more often than Boone. |
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