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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 23, 2024 15:56:05 GMT -5
Early in spring training in 2023, Quintana suffered a rib stress fracture that put him on the IL for the first half of the season. He came back in late July, pitched solidly for the Mets with a 3.50 ERA in 13 starts, but had little to show for it: he was 3-6 and the Mets went 4-9 in his starts. This year, he's not pitching as well, and the key reason is a spike in his HR rate (0.6 per 9 innings last year, 1.5 per 9 this year). In 19 starts, he's 4-6 with an ERA of 4.13. In 102 1/3 innings, he's allowed 95 hits, 48 runs, 47 earned, 17 HR and 34 walks, striking out 80. His WHIP for the season is slightly below average at 1.261. The Rockies hit him hard last time, four HR in 5 1/3 innings, and that game wasn't at Coors, but in the 2 starts before that he was terrific: 7 innings of shutout ball against the Nats, back-to-back. Tonight will be the 9th game and 8th start of his career against the Yanks. He's 3-3 with a 2.97 ERA against them. In 39 1/3 innings, he's allowed 39 hits, 14 runs, 13 earned, just 1 HR, walking 13 and striking out 35. HIs WHIP against them is a sub-par 1.322, and their team quadruple slash line against him is .260/.315/.393/.709. His last start against the Yanks his 2nd start of the season at the end of July at the Stadium, and he pitched a solid 6 innings, giving up 6 hits, 3 runs, 2 earned, with 3 BB and 5 K, taking the L in a 3-1 Mets loss.
Repertoire: At this point, at age 35, Quintana is a junkballing 5-pitch lefty. He throws a 4-seamer, a sinker and a change, but doesn't throw a slider, using a slurve and a curve as his breaking pitches. The sinker, slurve and curve both have less drop than normal, they also have less horizontal movment than average. The 4-seamer gets average rise and much less tail arm-side than average. The change gets slightly more drop than average. In run values, the sinker is a plus, the 4-seamer a big minues and the other three pitches are tiny plusses. He gives up more hard contact on the sinker than on the other 4 pitches, but obviously these are grounders and playable. 2nd most hard contact is off the 4-seamer, and he's probably giving up all those extra home runs of that pitch. His FB velo and spin are in the bottom 10% in the majors, the curve spin is bottom 15%. He used to get elite extension, but that has gradually sloped downhill to just slightly better than average. Overall, both his barrel and hard hit rates are somewhat above average. His line drive rate is a bit better than average, the flyball rate is below average, the groundball rate is above average. The infield popup rate is well below average but the flyball per HR rate is well above average, which fits the profile of his 4-seamer. His called strike rate is a bit below average, but his swinging strike rate is well below average, driving his his CSW percentage well below average. His strand rate is very high, up near 80%, and that's the primary reason his ERA estimators think his ERA should up around 4.85 or so. The pitch mix this season so far: 4-seamer averaging 90.4 about 23% of the time, sinker averaging 91 about 31% of the time (he throws about 4 sinkers for every three 4-seamers), curve 78 about 21% of the time, change 86 about 19% of the time, and slurve 78 about 6% of the time.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 23, 2024 16:02:47 GMT -5
Reviewing his name game quickly: We've dealt with the first name Jose before; the current career WAR leader of Joses is Jose Cruz, the outfielder who did his best work with the Astros and played breifly for the Yanks in his final season. The two who should be fighting it out for that title long-term are multiple All-Stars and MVP candidates, Jose Altuve and Jose Ramirez. There are two other Quintanas in MLB history. Jose is the best of the three. The major league career of Red Sox firstbaseman/outfielder Carlos Quintana was derailed after two solid seasons for the Boston, when at age 25, he got into a terrible car accident that he never entirely recovered from. His missed all of 1992, played briefly for the Red Sox in 1993, and hung around in minor league and international baseball for about another 5 years before finally giving it up.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 23, 2024 16:03:55 GMT -5
The Yanks send Luis Gil 2.0 to the mound with an improved slider that has altered his pitch mix substantially. Decidedly his 3rd best pitch earlier in the season, he appears to have worked with pitching coach Matt Blake to alter its shape, giving it more of a two-plane break, and because it's more effective (it even gets back leg whiffs with 2 strikes against lefties multiple times in each of the last two games), he's ramped up his usage of it. Two starts ago, in the tough loss to the Red Sox, he used it more than the good changeup; in his last start against the O's, he used it more than even his elite fastball (by 1 pitch), and had excellent results against a team that annihilated him in 1 1/3 innings the last time he faced them. Now the league has to re-adjust its game plan against him. Let's see how the Mets react tonight.
On the season, Gil is 10-5 with a 3.17 ERA. In 102 1/3 innings, he's allowed 62 hits,37 runs, 36 earned, 9 HR, 49 walks and has struck out 118. Because of the very low hit rate, his WHIP for the season is still excellent: 1.085. The last two great starts have blunted the damage caused by the 3 awful starts before. Right now, Gil is in a 4-way tie fof 4th in the AL in wins (teammate Carlos Rodon is one of the other three in the tie), 1st in lowest hits per 9 innings at 5.45, 6th in K's per 9 at 10.38, but is tied for the league lead in BB with 49, and has the highest BB per 9 rate at 4.3of almost 40 qualified AL starters. In the last two starts, he's given up just 2 walks in 12 2/3 innings.
This is his 2nd career start against the Mets; the only other one was the beating he took in the series at Citifield at the end of June. He lasted just 4 1/3 innings, giving up 4 hits, 5 runs, all earned, with 4 BB, 2 K and 1 HR allowed. He also hit two batters. The Mets routed the Yanks in that one, 12-2, to complete the one-sided sweep. So his WHIP against the Mets is an awful 1.846, and their team quadruple slash line against him is an appropriately terrible .250/.455/.563/1.018, albeit in just 22 plate appearances.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 23, 2024 16:06:30 GMT -5
Yankees lineup vs Quintana...Yanks taking lefties Rice, Wells and Grisham out of the lineup to start three bench righties...in the immortal words of Rob Schneider as field/play-by-play announcer Chuck Niederman in the football movie Necessary Roughness: "Hey, maybe now is not the best time to make sure everyone has played."
Jones (DH) is 0-1 vs. Quintana
Soto (RF) is 1-7 with 1 RBI, 2 BB and 2 K
Judge (CF) is 2-6 with 1 double, 1 RBI and 1 BB
They never found Amelia Earhart, but somebody found J.D. Davis (1B) and put him in the cleanup spot of all places; he's 1-3 vs. Quintana
Volpe (SS) is 1-2 with a RBI and a BB
Torres (2B) is 3-6 with a double
Verdugo (LF) has never faced Quintana
Narvaez (C) hasn't either
LeMahieu is 1-10 with 3 BB and 1 K
On the bench: Grisham is 1-3 with a solo HR, pitchers Cole and Weaver have facted Quintana as well; Cole is 1-2 with a K, Weaver is 0-1. Hey, given the lineup on the scorecard, maybe they should take out Verdugo and start Cole in left?
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Mets lineup vs. Gil:
1. Lindor (SS) is 2-3 with 2 doubles
2. Nimmo (lF) is 0-1 with 2 BB
3. Martinez (DH) is 2-4 with 1 RBI and 1 HBP
4. Alonso (1B) is 0-2 with 1 BB
5. Vientos (3B) is 0-2 with 2 K
6. McNeil (2B) is 0-2
7. Torrens (C) has never faced Gil, at least, not in the majors anyway
8. Taylor (RF) is 0-1 with a HBP
9. Bader (CF) is 0-2
On the bench: Alvarez is 1-1 with a 2-run HR and a BB; Stewart is 0-2.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 23, 2024 16:07:55 GMT -5
Yesterday afternoon, Carlos Rodon shocked the world (well, maybe only just all Yankees fans, Rays fans, and MLB observers) with a brilliant game after six atrocious ones. Coming in on a six-game strech in which he pitched to an ERA 9.67, going 0-5, and allowing 9 HR in 27 innings, he shut the Rays down on 2 hits and 1 run, striking out 10 in 7 innings. The offense hit 5 HR, two by Juan Soto, and the Yanks won going away, 9-1. The win was their 60th win of the season, putting them 18 games over .500, but just their 10th in the last 30 games.
In other AL East action, the O's and Jays had the day off, but the Sox lost a typical back-and-forth Coors field death struggle. The Rockies got 4 in the 3rd, but the Sox answered with 4 in the 5th. The Rockies got a run in the 7th for a 5-4 lead, but the Sox answered in the 8th with a solo HR by catcher Connor Wong. The Sox took their first lead in the 10th, scoring two on a double by Dominc Smith to score the ghost runner, followed by a sac fly by Devers, but the Rockies wiped out those runs in the bottom of the inning on a 2-run HR by Sam Hilliard of Zack Kelly. In the 12th, the Sox broke through again to score the ghost runner on a 2 out single by Wilyer Abreu. but the Rockies tied it when ex-Yankee Jake Cave leadoff the their 12th with a single to score their ghost baserunner, with Cave going to 2nd when Duran tried to come up throwing before he had the ball in his mitt. After an intentional walk, a sac bunt, and another intentional walk, Sox' lefty Bailey Horn struck out Charlie Blackmon with the bases loaded and one out, but shortstop Ezequiel Tovar came through with line single to right center (it might've been a double in other circumstances), good enough for the walkoff hit, the Rockies winning, 8-7. The Sox had won 20 of 28 heading into the Break, but have lost 4 straight since the All-Star game.
The Yanks' win gave them a rare day where they gained ground on the other 4 teams in the East; 1/2 game vs. the O's and Jays, a full game against the Red Sox and Rays. They now trail Baltimore by 1 1/2, and lead the Sox by 5 1/2, the Rays by 9 and the Jays by 13 1/2.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 23, 2024 16:10:43 GMT -5
Elsewhere in the AL East today, the O's are in Miami to start a 3-game series at 6:40 pm against a Marlins team that can be fairly described as "bad, very bad", though they just split a 4-game series against the Mets and have won 3 out of 5. Comebacking veteran Albert Suarez (5-3, 2.82 ERA) starts for the Orioles; he's had 3 good starts and 2 bad ones in his last 5 games. Rookie Kyle Tyler (0-1, 3.38 ERA) has been recalled from AAA to start for Miami, he lasted 5 1/3 decent innings against Boston his last time out, but that was back in the first week of July. The Rays flew from New York to Toronto yesterday, and will start a 3-game series against the Jays at Rogers Centre at 7.07 pm. Reliever Shawn Armstrong is scheduled to open on 2 days' rest after pitching the first two game of the Yankees series. Armstong is 2-2 on the season with a 5.91 ERA, but has done better opening games; this is the 6th opening assignment this season, and he's 0-1 with a 3.38 ERA in those game, and has struck out 12 and walked just 2 in 8 innings. Jays' starter Jose Berrios (8-7, 4.01 ERA) has cooled off after a hot start; he's 4-5 with an ERA of 5.50 in his last 13 starts, and has an ERA of 8.40 in his last three. The Red Sox and Rockies play the middle game of their 3-game series at Coors Field, starting at 8:40 pm. Cooper Criswell (3-4, 4.50 ERA) starts for Boston; Ty Blecchhh, uh, I mean, Blach returns to the rotation after being in the pen for four games. He started 8 games for the Rockies between mid-May and late June with the usual poor results for a Colorado starter: 4-4 with a 5.66 ERA, 9 HR allowed in 41+ innings. On the season, Blach is 3-5 with a 5.46 ERA.
And, at 7:07 pm this afternoon at the Stadium, it's Quintana vs. Gil.
The pre-game tirade finished, I go to get in a nap before dinner. See in a little less than two hours.
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Post by kaybli on Jul 23, 2024 16:15:21 GMT -5
For what it is worth, I will be at the game on Wednesday. Doesn't sound like much, but I live in Chicago and am visiting my daughter who lives in Montclair, NJ. I have never been to the new stadium and she surprised me with tickets!!! Hopefully, they will win today and go for a sweep tomorrow. Thats awesome! What a thoughtful daughter. Have a wonderful time and hope the Yankees deliver us a win on that day! |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 23, 2024 16:19:51 GMT -5
I can understand giving Wells a day. He's never caught every day for such a long span in his professional life. However, Rice is a 20 something year old first baseman. He doesn't need a rest after just having a week off. Let him hit against leftys, especially when your other option is complete dog doo. Rice is 2 for 21 with 10 Ks in his last 5 games. Might be a mental day off as well as the fact it's a LHP. |
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Post by nw on Jul 23, 2024 16:28:05 GMT -5
I can understand giving Wells a day. He's never caught every day for such a long span in his professional life. However, Rice is a 20 something year old first baseman. He doesn't need a rest after just having a week off. Let him hit against leftys, especially when your other option is complete dog doo. The thread is young and already has references from vomit to dog excrement. This looks like it’s going to be an interesting game her on The Bronx Bombers forum… Now, since you referenced Mr. Davis with “dog doo” he’s sure to run in to a fast ball at some point…😂 If a Davis HR helps the Yankees win, I'm all for it (thought I'm secretly hoping the Yankees win 22-1 and Davis goes 0-4 with 4 K's. If he runs into one, that'll give Boone reason to keep him around for another couple of weeks. |
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Post by nw on Jul 23, 2024 16:32:14 GMT -5
Yankees lineup vs Quintana...Yanks taking lefties Rice, Wells and Grisham out of the lineup to start three bench righties...in the immortal words of Rob Schneider as field/play-by-play announcer Chuck Niederman in the football movie Necessary Roughness: "Hey, maybe now is not the best time to make sure everyone has played."
Jones (DH) is 0-1 vs. Quintana
Soto (RF) is 1-7 with 1 RBI, 2 BB and 2 K
Judge (CF) is 2-6 with 1 double, 1 RBI and 1 BB
They never found Amelia Earhart, but somebody found J.D. Davis (1B) and put him in the cleanup spot of all places; he's 1-3 vs. Quintana
Volpe (SS) is 1-2 with a RBI and a BB
Torres (2B) is 3-6 with a double
Verdugo (LF) has never faced Quintana
Narvaez (C) hasn't either
LeMahieu is 1-10 with 3 BB and 1 K
On the bench: Grisham is 1-3 with a solo HR, pitchers Cole and Weaver have facted Quintana as well; Cole is 1-2 with a K, Weaver is 0-1. Hey, given the lineup on the scorecard, maybe they should take out Verdugo and start Cole in left?
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Mets lineup vs. Gil:
1. Lindor (SS) is 2-3 with 2 doubles
2. Nimmo (lF) is 0-1 with 2 BB
3. Martinez (DH) is 2-4 with 1 RBI and 1 HBP
4. Alonso (1B) is 0-2 with 1 BB
5. Vientos (3B) is 0-2 with 2 K
6. McNeil (2B) is 0-2
7. Torrens (C) has never faced Gil, at least, not in the majors anyway
8. Taylor (RF) is 0-1 with a HBP
9. Bader (CF) is 0-2
On the bench: Alvarez is 1-1 with a 2-run HR and a BB; Stewart is 0-2. Obviously, your comment about Cole is a joke, but it's pretty clear even Boston sat Verdugo when Quintana was pitching. I wouldn't be against putting Jones in LF and DH-ing Wells to give him a half day off. Wells is actually hitting. Or, you could put Cabrera in LF. |
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Post by nw on Jul 23, 2024 16:37:59 GMT -5
Important Subway Series matchup with 2 playoff contenders and their cleanup hitters are hitting .221 and .241. What a wonderful time we are living in.
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Post by nw on Jul 23, 2024 16:41:23 GMT -5
The Subway Series is a little more than an hour from first pitch and Michael Kay is talking about the New Jersey Football Jets. Has baseball really lost that much appeal to the average sports listener?
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Post by inger on Jul 23, 2024 16:49:49 GMT -5
The Subway Series is a little more than an hour from first pitch and Michael Kay is talking about the New Jersey Football Jets. Has baseball really lost that much appeal to the average sports listener? I don’t know if it’s important or not. When you look at our line up for the day, it appears we’re playing a beer league softball game in which we’re so over-matched that we’ve decided to let the scrubeenies all start a game… it’s almost comical, closer to sac than happy… When JD Davis went on the IL, I thought perhaps we’d seen the last of him… but here he is with a start… I may be the only one that thinks Jamai Jones could hit if he played regularly, so there’s that for me… |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Jul 23, 2024 16:51:54 GMT -5
I wanted to throw up when I saw this lineup, but you have to go with what you have. Narvaez gets his first start. JD Davis batting cleanup?  Hope Gil can mow these guys down... |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Jul 23, 2024 16:54:29 GMT -5
Is this really the lineup?!    Yep, so we can probably expect 7-8 runs since it looks like pure rubbish.  |
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