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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 24, 2024 9:52:31 GMT -5
would be surprised if they do it but certainly could be some merit to flip-flopping soto & judge. not gonna kill boone for putting davis in the lineup. he's on the team and guessing if he was ever gonna use him it would be against a LH starter especially with rice struggling mightily going 4-40 w a 40% K rate. hoped to catch some lightning but yeah batting 4th was ridiculous. zero protection for judge. between the 3 of them (davis, jones & narvaez), they K'd in 6 of 8 AB stranding 9 runners. so much for stacking the lineup w RH bats. and yeah it's on cashman for constructing a team with so little real depth. with the struggles of the 3 veterans - torres, verdugo & DJ and injuries to rizzo & stanton (who was actually doing ok), you have 5 underachieving positions in the lineup. can't win w 2 guys. That’s my fear if we sign Soto. We’ll scrimp at other positions even more than we do now… Yeah, I think the plan was to get more value from our young players to offset the costs of the superstars and while there has been some flashes, there has also been enough inconsistency to place a little doubt that they are long term answers. A lineup featuring Volpe, Wells, Rice and Dominguez would go a long way in keeping short term costs down. |
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Post by noetsi on Jul 24, 2024 10:01:10 GMT -5
bad loss. Have to beat the mets
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Post by inger on Jul 24, 2024 10:04:20 GMT -5
That’s my fear if we sign Soto. We’ll scrimp at other positions even more than we do now… Yeah, I think the plan was to get more value from our young players to offset the costs of the superstars and while there has been some flashes, there has also been enough inconsistency to place a little doubt that they are long term answers. A lineup featuring Volpe, Wells, Rice and Dominguez would go a long way in keeping short term costs down. But now we are in a position of having to trade some of the youth away in order to upgrade the MLB team. This family ownership of the Steinbrenner family is at the base of our problems. At one time, it was George’s toy, and he cared little to none about profits. Now there there are a lot of greedy fingers in the pie that want to suck money out of the team to continue a luxurious lifestyle that we can only imagine. Better that they sell the team and get back into shipping full force. The way I see it, if the Dodgers can spend and the Phillies can spend while the Yankees can’t, something is amiss. Please sell the team to someone who wants to win… |
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Post by bearman on Jul 24, 2024 10:09:09 GMT -5
would be surprised if they do it but certainly could be some merit to flip-flopping soto & judge. not gonna kill boone for putting davis in the lineup. he's on the team and guessing if he was ever gonna use him it would be against a LH starter especially with rice struggling mightily going 4-40 w a 40% K rate. hoped to catch some lightning but yeah batting 4th was ridiculous. zero protection for judge. between the 3 of them (davis, jones & narvaez), they K'd in 6 of 8 AB stranding 9 runners. so much for stacking the lineup w RH bats. and yeah it's on cashman for constructing a team with so little real depth. with the struggles of the 3 veterans - torres, verdugo & DJ and injuries to rizzo & stanton (who was actually doing ok), you have 5 underachieving positions in the lineup. can't win w 2 guys. I think this pretty much sums it up. Davis and Jones shouldn't even be on this team. I'll give Narvaez a pass for now. Rice and DJ aren't hitting a lick. Nearly have of our position player options aren't performing at a major league level. Don't know what Boone can do with this cast of players Cashman has given him. |
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Post by noetsi on Jul 24, 2024 10:09:42 GMT -5
While they stress money more we spend a lot of money. Teams who spend a lot less do better. I don't think the issue is spending, it is where you spend it (particularly the long focus on pitching entirely ignoring hitting).
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 24, 2024 10:11:35 GMT -5
Yeah, I think the plan was to get more value from our young players to offset the costs of the superstars and while there has been some flashes, there has also been enough inconsistency to place a little doubt that they are long term answers. A lineup featuring Volpe, Wells, Rice and Dominguez would go a long way in keeping short term costs down. But now we are in a position of having to trade some of the youth away in order to upgrade the MLB team. This family ownership of the Steinbrenner family is at the base of our problems. At one time, it was George’s toy, and he cared little to none about profits. Now there there are a lot of greedy fingers in the pie that want to suck money out of the team to continue a luxurious lifestyle that we can only imagine. Better that they sell the team and get back into shipping full force. The way I see it, if the Dodgers can spend and the Phillies can spend while the Yankees can’t, something is amiss. Please sell the team to someone who wants to win… But.....The 2024 Yankees are spending $50mm more than the Phillies and $70mm more than the Dodgers and that doesn't even inclde the $60mm LT penalty we will have to pay. I know the Ohtani contract contributes to the gap but even a standard contract wouldn't close it entirely. sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/mlb/mlb-teams-highest-payrolls-2023-bm15/#:~:text=As%20of%20July%202024%2C%20the%20average%20total%20payroll,and%20their%20payrolls%20for%202024%2C%20according%20to%20Spotrac. |
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Post by noetsi on Jul 24, 2024 10:13:38 GMT -5
To many stanton's
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 24, 2024 10:22:39 GMT -5
would be surprised if they do it but certainly could be some merit to flip-flopping soto & judge. not gonna kill boone for putting davis in the lineup. he's on the team and guessing if he was ever gonna use him it would be against a LH starter especially with rice struggling mightily going 4-40 w a 40% K rate. hoped to catch some lightning but yeah batting 4th was ridiculous. zero protection for judge. between the 3 of them (davis, jones & narvaez), they K'd in 6 of 8 AB stranding 9 runners. so much for stacking the lineup w RH bats. and yeah it's on cashman for constructing a team with so little real depth. with the struggles of the 3 veterans - torres, verdugo & DJ and injuries to rizzo & stanton (who was actually doing ok), you have 5 underachieving positions in the lineup. can't win w 2 guys. That’s my fear if we sign Soto. We’ll scrimp at other positions even more than we do now… The bad contracts keep adding up. Eventually they will kill this team. It is rare for one of those mega contracts to end well. Some day fans will regret the deals given to Cole and Judge as we now regret paying DJ and Stanton. Unlike the total waste of the Rodon and Hicks deals, DJ and Stanton once added value to the team but their prime is long gone. Old age happens. |
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Post by bumper on Jul 24, 2024 10:48:00 GMT -5
Yeah, I think the plan was to get more value from our young players to offset the costs of the superstars and while there has been some flashes, there has also been enough inconsistency to place a little doubt that they are long term answers. A lineup featuring Volpe, Wells, Rice and Dominguez would go a long way in keeping short term costs down. But now we are in a position of having to trade some of the youth away in order to upgrade the MLB team. This family ownership of the Steinbrenner family is at the base of our problems. At one time, it was George’s toy, and he cared little to none about profits. Now there there are a lot of greedy fingers in the pie that want to suck money out of the team to continue a luxurious lifestyle that we can only imagine. Better that they sell the team and get back into shipping full force. The way I see it, if the Dodgers can spend and the Phillies can spend while the Yankees can’t, something is amiss. Please sell the team to someone who wants to win… uh we are outspending both the dodgers and phillies by a lot actually. here are the 2024 payrolls: mets 313 mil yankees 307 mil astros 250 mil phillies 246 mil braves 233 mil dodgers 231 mil
plus we're way over the luxury tax threshold (237 mil) so we're on the hook for almost an additional $60 mil. how much more do we have to spend than the other teams to win. for the record, the orioles have a payroll of 101 mil. cleveland's at 100 mil. both have better records. the hal is cheap thing doesn't hold h2o.
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Post by Max on Jul 24, 2024 12:06:43 GMT -5
For what it is worth, I will be at the game on Wednesday. Doesn't sound like much, but I live in Chicago and am visiting my daughter who lives in Montclair, NJ. I have never been to the new stadium and she surprised me with tickets!!! Hopefully, they will win today and go for a sweep tomorrow. Have a good time. |
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Post by Max on Jul 24, 2024 12:10:16 GMT -5
What a lineup! Jahmai Jones leading off! JD Davis hitting cleanup! Note to the Yankees a DH is supposed to be a good hitter, usually one of the best hitters on the team. If Wells needed a rest he should have DHed, I don't care if there is a lefty pitching. Wells has been hitting, for at least the time being Wells should be batting cleanup behind Judge.
That line up was ridiculous. That's a lineup a team puts out in September when they have already clinched first place and home field.
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Post by Lola on Jul 24, 2024 12:18:56 GMT -5
But now we are in a position of having to trade some of the youth away in order to upgrade the MLB team. This family ownership of the Steinbrenner family is at the base of our problems. At one time, it was George’s toy, and he cared little to none about profits. Now there there are a lot of greedy fingers in the pie that want to suck money out of the team to continue a luxurious lifestyle that we can only imagine. Better that they sell the team and get back into shipping full force. The way I see it, if the Dodgers can spend and the Phillies can spend while the Yankees can’t, something is amiss. Please sell the team to someone who wants to win… uh we are outspending both the dodgers and phillies by a lot actually. here are the 2024 payrolls: mets 313 mil yankees 307 mil astros 250 mil phillies 246 mil braves 233 mil dodgers 231 mil
plus we're way over the luxury tax threshold (237 mil) so we're on the hook for almost an additional $60 mil. how much more do we have to spend than the other teams to win. for the record, the orioles have a payroll of 101 mil. cleveland's at 100 mil. both have better records. the hal is cheap thing doesn't hold h2o.
We should be into the billions and trillions by now! A million bucks ain't what it use to be... ya know, with inflation and everything. Btw... FIRE CASHMAN! |
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Post by JEGnj on Jul 24, 2024 12:56:21 GMT -5
I have to admit this year with all the streaming and just life I have watched the least Yankee games. A lot of time I have the radio or Audacy App on listening for filler. The Yankee swagger and mastic of the Pinstripes is gone.
The Yankees are the best franchise in the world and we have enjoyed winning. We can argue we had the best players in the game. We have been spoiled.
I hate being negative it's just when you roll out garbage and toast players and try to sell us they are a Championship team we aren't fools.
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Post by Max on Jul 24, 2024 12:58:31 GMT -5
Probably the best hit ball by a Yankee that whole game. |
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Post by inger on Jul 24, 2024 14:49:38 GMT -5
I may or may not be with you folks for game 104 today. It’s an ESPN game. Sometimes I get freebies and other times they want to buy the ESPN channel.
If it’s ESPN, I have plenty of other things to do…
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