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Post by JEGnj on Jul 24, 2024 12:36:53 GMT -5
How many SP have they brought in and crashed and burned under Blake?
How many can't miss don't want to give up prospects are killing it around the league under Blake?
Nester has been getting worse and worse since his breakout year. Rodon is a ticking time bomb. Holmes you now don't know what you get closing. The entire staff you don't know if you get a clunker or 7 innings and you have no clue what the pen will do.
All the Yankee announcers and pitchers say they are doing better and making adjustments because of Cole influence and constant teaching. They even said yesterday Gil and Sevy are very close and Sevy gave him advice on the new pitch.
They said Blake is a pitching genius and I don't see it.
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Post by qimqam on Jul 24, 2024 12:50:03 GMT -5
How many SP have they brought in and crashed and burned under Blake? How many can't miss don't want to give up prospects are killing it around the league under Blake? Nester has been getting worse and worse since his breakout year. Rodon is a ticking time bomb. Holmes you now don't know what you get closing. The entire staff you don't know if you get a clunker or 7 innings and you have no clue what the pen will do. All the Yankee announcers and pitchers say they are doing better and making adjustments because of Cole influence and constant teaching. They even said yesterday Gil and Sevy are very close and Sevy gave him advice on the new pitch. They said Blake is a pitching genius and I don't see it. Agreed he seems to be better with BP than SP Maybe they should have 2 pitching coaches BP & SP |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Jul 24, 2024 14:34:58 GMT -5
I'm not sure how much blame the hitting coach should shoulder. Most of these guys just suck. The mess falls largely at Cashman's feet for handing out bad contracts and putting together a pretty awful roster around Judge/Soto. Look at the underperformers Judge has his own Coach and Soto has always been great DJL Gleyber Verdugo Rizzo Volpe Gleyber has certainly underperformed. Verdugo was doing well, but has fallen into a prolonged slump...that happens. Rizzo & DJL are getting old, injury-prone, and probably just declining physically. As for Volpe, maybe, but it's hard to 100% pin that on a hitting coach IMO as I feel his issues may have more to do with him being rushed to MLB last year before he was probably ready. He didn't exactly light up the minor leagues and was promoted after just 22 AAA games in which he hit .236. It's entirely possible he's just not a very good MLB hitter. He's been better over the last week, so maybe he's coming along? Anyway, I'm just floating that maybe the issues don't necessarily have to do with coaching, but it's not a hill I'd die on. |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Jul 24, 2024 14:37:13 GMT -5
How many SP have they brought in and crashed and burned under Blake? How many can't miss don't want to give up prospects are killing it around the league under Blake? Nester has been getting worse and worse since his breakout year. Rodon is a ticking time bomb. Holmes you now don't know what you get closing. The entire staff you don't know if you get a clunker or 7 innings and you have no clue what the pen will do. All the Yankee announcers and pitchers say they are doing better and making adjustments because of Cole influence and constant teaching. They even said yesterday Gil and Sevy are very close and Sevy gave him advice on the new pitch. They said Blake is a pitching genius and I don't see it. Agreed he seems to be better with BP than SP Maybe they should have 2 pitching coaches BP & SP Harkey is listed as the BP coach. |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 24, 2024 14:53:32 GMT -5
Agreed he seems to be better with BP than SP Maybe they should have 2 pitching coaches BP & SP Harkey is listed as the BP coach. He's held that job forever. I know he worked with Girardi...he might even go back to Torre !!! |
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 24, 2024 15:01:27 GMT -5
Harkey is listed as the BP coach. He's held that job forever. I know he worked with Girardi...he might even go back to Torre !!! Girardi & Harkey are good friends, having played together with the Cubs & Rockies. Girardi brought him over to the Yanks as BP coach when he took over as Yankee manager in '08. |
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Post by inger on Jul 24, 2024 15:26:33 GMT -5
How many SP have they brought in and crashed and burned under Blake? How many can't miss don't want to give up prospects are killing it around the league under Blake? Nester has been getting worse and worse since his breakout year. Rodon is a ticking time bomb. Holmes you now don't know what you get closing. The entire staff you don't know if you get a clunker or 7 innings and you have no clue what the pen will do. All the Yankee announcers and pitchers say they are doing better and making adjustments because of Cole influence and constant teaching. They even said yesterday Gil and Sevy are very close and Sevy gave him advice on the new pitch. They said Blake is a pitching genius and I don't see it. Agreed he seems to be better with BP than SP Maybe they should have 2 pitching coaches BP & SP They do have a bullpen coach… maybe he’s more deserving of the credit for these transformed relievers than Blake… Mike Harkey… |
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Post by Max on Jul 24, 2024 15:41:31 GMT -5
Someone needs to take charge and get Cashman and Boone the hell out of here. How many second half collapses? How many obviously not good enough rosters? This is now bad uninspired baseball for over thirty games now. Boone has a close to a .600 winning percentage. Cashman has the Yankees contending basically year after year. Hal firing either one of them isn't going to do a thing. It doesn't look like the Yankees quit on Boone, nor does it look as if he lost the clubhouse.
The Yankees have had many injuries. Even Stanton's back up Dominguez got hurt. Stanton and Rizzo both hit in the middle of the Yankees lineup, both are on the IL. Many of the bullpen pitchers got hurt. DJ was hurt, his backup Berti got hurt. |
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Post by Max on Jul 24, 2024 15:43:16 GMT -5
As for Torres...If I'm not mistaken, this is the time of the season where Torres hits better.
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 24, 2024 19:10:36 GMT -5
Someone needs to take charge and get Cashman and Boone the hell out of here. How many second half collapses? How many obviously not good enough rosters? This is now bad uninspired baseball for over thirty games now. Boone has a close to a .600 winning percentage. Cashman has the Yankees contending basically year after year. Hal firing either one of them isn't going to do a thing. It doesn't look like the Yankees quit on Boone, nor does it look as if he lost the clubhouse.
The Yankees have had many injuries. Even Stanton's back up Dominguez got hurt. Stanton and Rizzo both hit in the middle of the Yankees lineup, both are on the IL. Many of the bullpen pitchers got hurt. DJ was hurt, his backup Berti got hurt. Maybe it is Cashman's astute mind that keeps the Yankees record elite. I think it is the money. sportshandle.com/mlb-cost-per-win/ |
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Post by nw on Jul 25, 2024 10:33:20 GMT -5
Yeah I dont get the Matt Blake must go thing Now the hittig coach on the other should be shit canned so quick he wouldnt know what hit him I'm not sure how much blame the hitting coach should shoulder. Most of these guys just suck. The mess falls largely at Cashman's feet for handing out bad contracts and putting together a pretty awful roster around Judge/Soto. Honestly, the Yankees have gone through a ton of hitting coaches in the last 5 years and the only one that had even mild success was Casey. I think most of their choices for hitting coaches have been coaches who will fit into the team hitting philosophy that begins way back in the minor leagues. Maybe the solution is to change the philosophy, because that's what Casey did and it seemed to work for a lot of guys toward the end of last season. |
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Post by Max on Jul 25, 2024 11:22:47 GMT -5
Boone has a close to a .600 winning percentage. Cashman has the Yankees contending basically year after year. Hal firing either one of them isn't going to do a thing. It doesn't look like the Yankees quit on Boone, nor does it look as if he lost the clubhouse.
The Yankees have had many injuries. Even Stanton's back up Dominguez got hurt. Stanton and Rizzo both hit in the middle of the Yankees lineup, both are on the IL. Many of the bullpen pitchers got hurt. DJ was hurt, his backup Berti got hurt. Maybe it is Cashman's astute mind that keeps the Yankees record elite. I think it is the money. Good veteran teams tend to have a high payroll. |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 25, 2024 12:41:48 GMT -5
Maybe it is Cashman's astute mind that keeps the Yankees record elite. I think it is the money. Good veteran teams tend to have a high payroll. What struck me is that the Rays and the Yankees had about the same number of wins yet it cost the Yankeess about $2.6 M per W and for the Rays about $825,000. Given that the teams play in the same division I think the comparison is useful. |
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Post by Max on Jul 25, 2024 13:27:37 GMT -5
Good veteran teams tend to have a high payroll. What struck me is that the Rays and the Yankees had about the same number of wins yet it cost the Yankeess about $2.6 M per W and for the Rays about $825,000. Given that the teams play in the same division I think the comparison is useful. The same amount of wins over what period of time? |
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Post by yankeesfaninboston on Jul 25, 2024 13:38:39 GMT -5
I'm not sure how much blame the hitting coach should shoulder. Most of these guys just suck. The mess falls largely at Cashman's feet for handing out bad contracts and putting together a pretty awful roster around Judge/Soto. Look at the underperformers Judge has his own Coach and Soto has always been great DJL Gleyber Verdugo Rizzo Volpe Volpe's been a little better at the plate than last year. What if he's just not that good a hitter? Rizzo and DJL are old and have been in decline for multiple years now. Hard for me to think that's coaching not them just being washed. If these guys are considered "underperforming" then I think that might be because expectations were too high to begin with. Verdugo/Torres both having career worst years in contract seasons. Fair to wonder if they're being failed. But the others seem like a stretch to call "underperformers". |
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