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Post by qimqam on Jul 25, 2024 13:42:07 GMT -5
Agreed he seems to be better with BP than SP Maybe they should have 2 pitching coaches BP & SP Harkey is listed as the BP coach. I never thought of the BP coach as a pitching coach ...but if that is the case then Blake has been getting way too much credit for their BP Success The Starting pitchers have underperformed for years ... So yeah maybe Blake should go |
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 25, 2024 13:55:18 GMT -5
Volpe's been a little better at the plate than last year. What if he's just not that good a hitter? Yep. He's never hit for a high BA above A ball, but he has hit for power wherever he's been, including last year with the Yanks. Hit hit 21 HRs in AA-AAA ball, and 21 HRs in MLB in essentially the same number of PAs. IMO there's a belief that because he's fast and plays SS he should be a leadoff hitter. I think he should hit somewhere in the middle of the lineup. |
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Post by Max on Jul 25, 2024 14:06:41 GMT -5
Volpe's been a little better at the plate than last year. What if he's just not that good a hitter? Yep. He's never hit for a high BA above A ball, but he has hit for power wherever he's been, including last year with the Yanks. Hit hit 21 HRs in AA-AAA ball, and 21 HRs in MLB in essentially the same number of PAs. IMO there's a belief that because he's fast and plays SS he should be a leadoff hitter. I think he should hit somewhere in the middle of the lineup. I think he can leadoff if he can stay away from swinging at outside pitches. I don't expect him to hit .300, but in my opinion, he can leadoff if he can get to a respectable OBP. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 25, 2024 14:10:20 GMT -5
Yep. He's never hit for a high BA above A ball, but he has hit for power wherever he's been, including last year with the Yanks. Hit hit 21 HRs in AA-AAA ball, and 21 HRs in MLB in essentially the same number of PAs. IMO there's a belief that because he's fast and plays SS he should be a leadoff hitter. I think he should hit somewhere in the middle of the lineup. I think he can leadoff if he can stay away from swinging at outside pitches. I don't expect him to hit .300, but in my opinion, he can leadoff if he can get to a respectable OBP. I don't see him as a leadoff hitter. As I said, he's been stereotyped as one because he's 5'9", fast & plays SS. In fact, his strength of stealing bases is lost hitting in front of Soto/Judge. |
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Post by Max on Jul 25, 2024 14:17:22 GMT -5
I think he can leadoff if he can stay away from swinging at outside pitches. I don't expect him to hit .300, but in my opinion, he can leadoff if he can get to a respectable OBP. I don't see him as a leadoff hitter. As I said, he's been stereotyped as one because he's 5'9", fast & plays SS. In fact, his strength of stealing bases is lost hitting in front of Soto/Judge. I agree with you about him leading off, unless he makes the adjustment I mentioned. |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 25, 2024 15:00:27 GMT -5
What struck me is that the Rays and the Yankees had about the same number of wins yet it cost the Yankeess about $2.6 M per W and for the Rays about $825,000. Given that the teams play in the same division I think the comparison is useful. The same amount of wins over what period of time?
The site I used for my stat is Sportshandle.com and they tabulated results since 2011. The page also had a methodology link where they explained where they got their stats. I will try again:
sportshandle.com/mlb-cost-per-win/#methodology
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 25, 2024 16:04:31 GMT -5
I don't see him as a leadoff hitter. As I said, he's been stereotyped as one because he's 5'9", fast & plays SS. In fact, his strength of stealing bases is lost hitting in front of Soto/Judge. I agree with you about him leading off, unless he makes the adjustment I mentioned. There are times watching Volpe bat that I wonder if he feels talking a walk is a bad outcome. |
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Post by Max on Jul 25, 2024 16:12:31 GMT -5
Looks like cherry picking. Why from only 2011? Are any of the Rays wins from 2011 on, have anything to do with them getting good draft picks being they were one of the worst teams in MLB from 1998-2007?
The Rays became a contending team for 6 years, then they had 5 bad seasons in a row before becoming a contending team again.
I don't mean this for you Pat. But a question for any Yankees fan that thinks the Yankees should follow the Ray's blueprint. Do Yankee fans really want the Yankees to have 5 bad seasons in a row?
The Yankees also play in a city where there are a lot of other entertainment options.
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Post by Max on Jul 25, 2024 16:20:06 GMT -5
I agree with you about him leading off, unless he makes the adjustment I mentioned. There are times watching Volpe bat that I wonder if he feels talking a walk is a bad outcome.  |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 25, 2024 17:29:21 GMT -5
The same amount of wins over what period of time?
The site I used for my stat is Sportshandle.com and they tabulated results since 2011. The page also had a methodology link where they explained where they got their stats. I will try again:
sportshandle.com/mlb-cost-per-win/#methodology
The link is working. |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 25, 2024 17:34:14 GMT -5
Looks like cherry picking. Why from only 2011? Are any of the Rays wins from 2011 on, have anything to do with them getting good draft picks being they were one of the worst teams in MLB from 1998-2007?
The Rays became a contending team for 6 years, then they had 5 bad seasons in a row before becoming a contending team again.
I don't mean this for you Pat. But a question for any Yankees fan that thinks the Yankees should follow the Ray's blueprint. Do Yankee fans really want the Yankees to have 5 bad seasons in a row?
The Yankees also play in a city where there are a lot of other entertainment options.
Max, you know I have great time sharing thoughts with you and all our conversations are in good spirit. Our disagreements about our favorite team are just a way for me to talk baseball at the computer. I don't know why the authors of that article started in 2011. Nothing jumps out at me. I would note the Rays were very good in the 3 preceding years so I don't think they were its focus. I will concede all your points about the demands placed on the Yankees by their fans. I will also point out that those arguments are the ones George roled out every year at the TDL. Only when he took a leap of faith and let the youngsters play did his fortunes really change. I don't know if that will ever happen again. But I want to try. |
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Post by ypaterson on Jul 25, 2024 17:35:37 GMT -5
Are my links coming through ? Earlier in the year I know I posted pointers to articles and sites and folks were not getting them. I recall 'Bob telling me the link did not work. Other folks sent me messages to say the links were missing. Sorry if I did that again.
The site I used for my stat is Sportshandle.com and they tabulated results since 2011. The page also had a methodology link where they explained where they got their stats. I will try again:
sportshandle.com/mlb-cost-per-win/#methodology
The link is working. Thanks K. I did screw up a couple of times in the past. |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 25, 2024 17:41:17 GMT -5
Thanks K. I did screw up a couple of times in the past. no worries.
If you copy and paste the link from your browser with the "https://", it should automatically turn into a link to the website.
Or
you can click the little earth with a note button at the top and enter the URL there.
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Post by inger on Jul 25, 2024 18:03:11 GMT -5
I think he can leadoff if he can stay away from swinging at outside pitches. I don't expect him to hit .300, but in my opinion, he can leadoff if he can get to a respectable OBP. I don't see him as a leadoff hitter. As I said, he's been stereotyped as one because he's 5'9", fast & plays SS. In fact, his strength of stealing bases is lost hitting in front of Soto/Judge. Which I think is dumb. If running is a strength use it. Outs on the bases in front of a slugger don’t suck any worse than when said slugger hits into a DP… I can see being a bit less aggressive until Soto bats. He can hit behind you, etc.. But run freely with Judge up. Not every ball he hits leaves the park… |
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Post by pimmersj on Jul 25, 2024 18:15:00 GMT -5
Nobody seems to want to talk about it but this team is facing a huge dilemma. If they don’t have strong feeling that they can resign Soto which I think it going to be a bigger challenge than people think. Especially when they’re saddled with Stanton’s huge contract for a couple of more years. My point being look at this friggin roster. DJ is shot, Verdugo looks like the answer to nothing, Rizzo is a downward trending question mark and whatever they call this stench of players the bench needs to go.
Is some youth ready to go and man these spots? Aren’t there going to be growing pains anyway? If you don’t resign Soto then it’s Judge and who? Do they rebuild and try to salvage something for Judge while he’s still in prime years? I’m sorry folks it’s not about just this season. This is not trending very well and again especially if you don’t have a good feeling about Soto.
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