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Post by noetsi on Jul 30, 2024 15:48:20 GMT -5
One thing that is true of Cashman. He does not take chances. High risk, high pay off are not in his nature.
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Post by nw on Jul 31, 2024 8:39:18 GMT -5
Leiter is the high K rate guy the Yankees were looking for, but he's a different type of high K guy. He's not like the old Rays' pens who sent out guy after guy who threw 98. He needs his offspeed to work and, as such, is certainly more prone to throw a "hanger".
If the Yankees were going to go the route of fixing their pen problems with middle career guys with a track record but aren't terribly exciting, why did they not give Neely a shot. He's a fastball/slider guy with a high K rate and only 24 years old. I think he could have been a value add over the Hill, Tonkin, Ferguson clan that were in our pen.
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Post by inger on Jul 31, 2024 9:27:42 GMT -5
Leiter is the high K rate guy the Yankees were looking for, but he's a different type of high K guy. He's not like the old Rays' pens who sent out guy after guy who threw 98. He needs his offspeed to work and, as such, is certainly more prone to throw a "hanger". If the Yankees were going to go the route of fixing their pen problems with middle career guys with a track record but aren't terribly exciting, why did they not give Neely a shot. He's a fastball/slider guy with a high K rate and only 24 years old. I think he could have been a value add over the Hill, Tonkin, Ferguson clan that were in our pen. If Neely ever amounts to anything I’ll be shocked… |
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Post by nw on Jul 31, 2024 9:29:55 GMT -5
Leiter is the high K rate guy the Yankees were looking for, but he's a different type of high K guy. He's not like the old Rays' pens who sent out guy after guy who threw 98. He needs his offspeed to work and, as such, is certainly more prone to throw a "hanger". If the Yankees were going to go the route of fixing their pen problems with middle career guys with a track record but aren't terribly exciting, why did they not give Neely a shot. He's a fastball/slider guy with a high K rate and only 24 years old. I think he could have been a value add over the Hill, Tonkin, Ferguson clan that were in our pen. If Neely ever amounts to anything I’ll be shocked… Why is that? His path through the minors has been good. He may not end up being Mariano Rivera, but I could certainly see him becoming a Nelson or Stanton. |
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Post by inger on Jul 31, 2024 9:31:18 GMT -5
If Neely ever amounts to anything I’ll be shocked… Why is that? His path through the minors has been good. He may not end up being Mariano Rivera, but I could certainly see him becoming a Nelson or Stanton. His command is going to have to be fixed if he’s going to get there…I just never got excited about him… |
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Post by inger on Jul 31, 2024 9:33:43 GMT -5
If Neely ever amounts to anything I’ll be shocked… Why is that? His path through the minors has been good. He may not end up being Mariano Rivera, but I could certainly see him becoming a Nelson or Stanton. It’s odd how we view him so differently, nw. In your post you mention that he’s “only” 24 years old. In my thoughts he’s “already” 24 years old…🤓 But either one of us could be right, so peace, buddy!… |
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Post by nw on Jul 31, 2024 10:12:22 GMT -5
Why is that? His path through the minors has been good. He may not end up being Mariano Rivera, but I could certainly see him becoming a Nelson or Stanton. It’s odd how we view him so differently, nw. In your post you mention that he’s “only” 24 years old. In my thoughts he’s “already” 24 years old…🤓 But either one of us could be right, so peace, buddy!… Yes, he is "already" 24 years old, but I look at the entire progression. He didn't start in the minors until age 22 after finishing his career at tOSU. He spent his age 22 season at low A and then was promoted to high A for a cup of coffee. His age 23 season was spent primarily at high A but he had a good sized cup of coffee at AA. He started this season at AA and earned a promotion to AAA, still playing in a league below league average age. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 31, 2024 10:21:41 GMT -5
It’s odd how we view him so differently, nw. In your post you mention that he’s “only” 24 years old. In my thoughts he’s “already” 24 years old…🤓 But either one of us could be right, so peace, buddy!… Yes, he is "already" 24 years old, but I look at the entire progression. He didn't start in the minors until age 22 after finishing his career at tOSU. He spent his age 22 season at low A and then was promoted to high A for a cup of coffee. His age 23 season was spent primarily at high A but he had a good sized cup of coffee at AA. He started this season at AA and earned a promotion to AAA, still playing in a league below league average age. He'll probably make his major league debut with Cubs later this season. I doubt they care about his age. |
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Post by inger on Jul 31, 2024 20:41:22 GMT -5
It’s odd how we view him so differently, nw. In your post you mention that he’s “only” 24 years old. In my thoughts he’s “already” 24 years old…🤓 But either one of us could be right, so peace, buddy!… Yes, he is "already" 24 years old, but I look at the entire progression. He didn't start in the minors until age 22 after finishing his career at tOSU. He spent his age 22 season at low A and then was promoted to high A for a cup of coffee. His age 23 season was spent primarily at high A but he had a good sized cup of coffee at AA. He started this season at AA and earned a promotion to AAA, still playing in a league below league average age. Great points, every one. I tend to forget the college guys start late. Thanks for the reminder… |
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