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Post by azbob643 on Aug 3, 2024 10:46:23 GMT -5
no problem w boone's response. he talked about it for a good 2 minutes and felt he said all that he wanted to. everything situation is different. perhaps it was a cumulative thing w gleyber and that was the straw. it might have cost us a run (after volpe's double) and saved the out at the plate. maybe the inning continues.
interesting that folks here are killing boone because gleyber's "hustle" or lack of is one of the more discussed topics here and complain about boone not being tougher on the players.
gleyber was stand-up and contrite in his post-game. instead of hiding, he did come back out to the dugout to support his teammates. hopefully he learned from it and maybe we see a better gleyber moving forward.
What some of us want to know is why does Boone cheery pick who he calls out and benches. The next Verdugo jogs down the line, is he getting pulled or just a different "situation." It's safe to say Boone's decision had a lot to do with the fact that Gleyber's been under the microscope and the object of intense criticism, justified or not, by many fans. Although Verdugo, who earlier in the season had been lauded as the answer in LF, has been criticized lately, it hasn't been anywhere near the level of what's been directed at Gleyber. Gleyber thought the ball was out; obviously a very costly mistake for which there is no excuse...but it wasn't "showboating", "dogging it" or lack of "hustle". |
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 3, 2024 10:54:44 GMT -5
What some of us want to know is why does Boone cheery pick who he calls out and benches. The next Verdugo jogs down the line, is he getting pulled or just a different "situation." It's safe to say Boone's decision had a lot to do with the fact that Gleyber's been under the microscope and the object of intense criticism, justified or not, by many fans. Although Verdugo, who earlier in the season had been lauded as the answer in LF, has been criticized lately, it hasn't been anywhere near the level of what's been directed at Gleyber. Gleyber thought the ball was out; obviously a very costly mistake for which there is no excuse...but it wasn't "showboating", "dogging it" or lack of "hustle". I'm not even sure it was Boone's decision to take Torres out of the game which could explain why it took an inning for it to happen. Boone's excuse that he didn't want to "ambush" Oswaldo doesn't hold water with me. |
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Post by azbob643 on Aug 3, 2024 10:57:43 GMT -5
I'm not even sure it was Boone's decision to take Torres out of the game which could explain why it took an inning for it to happen. Boone's excuse that he didn't want to "ambush" Oswaldo doesn't hold water with me. Who else's decision would it be? Are you suggesting Cashman called down to the dugout and demanded Gleyber be pulled? |
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 3, 2024 11:00:12 GMT -5
I'm not even sure it was Boone's decision to take Torres out of the game which could explain why it took an inning for it to happen. Boone's excuse that he didn't want to "ambush" Oswaldo doesn't hold water with me. Who else's decision would it be? Are you suggesting Cashman called down to the dugout and demanded Gleyber be pulled? It used to happen all the time in the George days. |
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Post by azbob643 on Aug 3, 2024 11:03:01 GMT -5
Who else's decision would it be? Are you suggesting Cashman called down to the dugout and demanded Gleyber be pulled? It used to happen all the time in the George days. Gleyber made the last out of the inning on the play at the plate and immediately took the field. I think it's more likely Boone had a little time to think about it and decided to pull him. |
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Post by Max on Aug 3, 2024 11:35:49 GMT -5
They included Mattingly in the roll call, lol. From what I have noticed they always do. |
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 3, 2024 12:08:52 GMT -5
It used to happen all the time in the George days. Gleyber made the last out of the inning on the play at the plate and immediately took the field. I think it's more likely Boone had a little time to think about it and decided to pull him. Boone is a slow thinker, so that's not surprising. |
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Post by azbob643 on Aug 3, 2024 12:11:46 GMT -5
Gleyber made the last out of the inning on the play at the plate and immediately took the field. I think it's more likely Boone had a little time to think about it and decided to pull him. Boone is a slow thinker, so that's not surprising. Do you think he would've pulled him had Gleyber been safe at the plate? I don't. |
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 3, 2024 12:18:02 GMT -5
Boone is a slow thinker, so that's not surprising. Do you think he would've pulled him had Gleyber been safe at the plate? I don't. I don't know, but I don't think he would have pulled him if Gleyber was having a great year at the plate. It's easier to make an example of a guy who has been struggling. |
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Post by azbob643 on Aug 3, 2024 12:33:41 GMT -5
That was kinda my earlier point... |
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Post by Max on Aug 3, 2024 13:19:43 GMT -5
The short porch is going to be a problem for De Los Santos. Yep, unless Blake can fix him. If Blake can't fix him maybe Luis Severino can.  |
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Post by Max on Aug 3, 2024 13:24:46 GMT -5
Somehow Boone taking Gleyber out of the game seems pale when compared to Billy Martin taking Reggie out! Boone did it the right way. Gleyber is going to be embarrassed, no need for Boone to humiliate him by taking him out in the middle of an inning. |
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Post by Max on Aug 3, 2024 13:47:59 GMT -5
Martin took Reggie out during the inning for the sole purpose of embarrassing him on national TV. Even though Reggie was already an established super-star, who knows if Billy's action that day actually managed to light a fire for Reggie, leading to him eventually being labeled as Mr. October as a result. After all, no one wants to be embarrassed that way, especially on national television. I seriously doubt what Boone did will do anything for Gleyber though, who just seems to have poor judgement with a lot of the plays he's involved with. You would think that knowing his contract is up this year, he would at least be trying 100% of the time, instead of all his showboating and lackadaisical plays. I don't get it. In my opinion, I doubt that Billy lit any fire, it seems to me all that did was cause resentment. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Aug 3, 2024 15:17:00 GMT -5
It used to happen all the time in the George days. Gleyber made the last out of the inning on the play at the plate and immediately took the field. I think it's more likely Boone had a little time to think about it and decided to pull him. I think the YES guys also mentioned that later in the game when Kay and Boone discussed that a bit later. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Aug 3, 2024 15:17:59 GMT -5
Yep, unless Blake can fix him. If Blake can't fix him maybe Luis Severino can. I'd take it, Max, but they're done with the Mets, so I don't know when he and De Los Santos can get together. |
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