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Post by inger on Aug 19, 2024 10:32:59 GMT -5
Maybe we will rise up against the good teams, but it is looking more like we might not even make the playoffs. This is a double whammy, as what if Soto leaves? They have an 8 game cushion on a playoff spot with 37 games left be serious right now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk A a voice of reason…
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 19, 2024 10:34:43 GMT -5
They have an 8 game cushion on a playoff spot with 37 games left be serious right now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk A a voice of reason… You want to talk about the divison being not secured that is fine but not making the playoffs with an 8 game cushion when they've seemed to at least turn around winning series lately the math doesn't add up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by bumper on Aug 19, 2024 10:37:22 GMT -5
should have dug deeper. my general point is even if you give him a "reasonable" amount of blown saves (3-4) which turned out to be losses, we'd be 3-4 games ahead of the field. 10 is way too many and unfortunately it's been our achillies heel and could prevent us from going deep in the PS. Not saying it can't but if you think the orioles feel good about Kimmel that is a lie. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk yup kimbrel's not great. for sure all closers have their hiccups and we've gotten to many of them. but i like clase, hader, suarez, scott, munoz' chances better than holmes'. regarding hiccups, even the great mariano averaged about 4 a year and a couple critical ones. holmes could certainly go on a run but overall see him as a major liability.
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 19, 2024 10:39:11 GMT -5
Yes, the sky is not falling. But your argument that "well, everyone else sort of stinks too" doesn't take away from the fact that we stink. Remove other teams from the debate. What gives you the thought that the Yanks have what it takes to go all the way? Because other teams are just as mediocre and there is no buzzsaw that is unbeatable.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The Yankees are supposed to be the buzzsawr. Soto is on a 1 year deal. Judge is 32, Cole hits 34 in a couple of weeks. The payroll is weighed down with bad contracts and the bad years of contracts that were spread out to minimize the LT. I doubt if Stanton, Rodon, DJ or Stoman finds the Fountain of Youth this offseason and Aaron Hicls is still getting paid. The sky ain't falling...but I know when someone is pissing on my head and when it is just rain !
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 19, 2024 10:43:03 GMT -5
should have dug deeper. my general point is even if you give him a "reasonable" amount of blown saves (3-4) which turned out to be losses, we'd be 3-4 games ahead of the field. 10 is way too many and unfortunately it's been our achillies heel and could prevent us from going deep in the PS. Not saying it can't but if you think the orioles feel good about Kimmel that is a lie. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk They're not, so they removed him from the closer's role. They're not sticking with the same thing that isn't working.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 19, 2024 10:43:04 GMT -5
Because other teams are just as mediocre and there is no buzzsaw that is unbeatable.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The Yankees are supposed to be the buzzsawr. Soto is on a 1 year deal. Judge is 32, Cole hits 34 in a couple of weeks. The payroll is weighed down with bad contracts and the bad years of contracts that were spread out to minimize the LT. I doubt if Stanton, Rodon, DJ or Stoman finds the Fountain of Youth this offseason and Aaron Hicls is still getting paid. The sky ain't falling...but I know when someone is pissing on my head and when it is just rain ! We have seen that at times this year they were just in a 8 of 10? Less than 2 weeks ago. They have the most runs scored in the Al and second most in the mlb. They also have the highest run differential in mlb even with all these blown leads. The team is capable of winning. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Aug 19, 2024 10:56:52 GMT -5
Not saying it can't but if you think the orioles feel good about Kimmel that is a lie. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk They're not, so they removed him from the closer's role. They're not sticking with the same thing that isn't working. Yep. Kimbrel has been replaced by one of their deadline acquisitions Seranthony Dominguez, who has pitched well for them. Unfortunately, the guys we traded for have turned out to be dog water. Still, we need to stop the insanity. Holmes is terrible. And it's even worse when you consider he started the year exceptionally well. By my count, he started the year 13/14 in save opportunities, and has gone a disgusting 13/22 since. That's 59% since May 20th which is absolutely putrid. Try something, anything else. Weaver, Cousins, Kahnle...anybody...
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 19, 2024 11:01:18 GMT -5
They're not, so they removed him from the closer's role. They're not sticking with the same thing that isn't working. Yep. Kimbrel has been replaced by one of their deadline acquisitions Seranthony Dominguez, who has pitched well for them. Unfortunately, the guys we traded for have turned out to be dog water. Still, we need to stop the insanity. Holmes is terrible. And it's even worse when you consider he started the year exceptionally well. By my count, he started the year 13/14 in save opportunities, and has gone a disgusting 13/22 since. That's 59% which is absolutely putrid. Try something, anything else. Weaver, Cousins, Kahnle...anybody... Ok but who are we replacing Holmes with? Yankees are 9-7 since trade deadline and Orioles 9-8 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by azbob643 on Aug 19, 2024 11:10:31 GMT -5
Yep. Kimbrel has been replaced by one of their deadline acquisitions Seranthony Dominguez, who has pitched well for them. Unfortunately, the guys we traded for have turned out to be dog water. Still, we need to stop the insanity. Holmes is terrible. And it's even worse when you consider he started the year exceptionally well. By my count, he started the year 13/14 in save opportunities, and has gone a disgusting 13/22 since. That's 59% which is absolutely putrid. Try something, anything else. Weaver, Cousins, Kahnle...anybody... Ok but who are we replacing Holmes with? Yankees are 9-7 since trade deadline and Orioles 9-8 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk When is Hamilton due back? Earlier in the year it seemed he had the ability/temperament to close.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 19, 2024 11:12:12 GMT -5
Ok but who are we replacing Holmes with? Yankees are 9-7 since trade deadline and Orioles 9-8 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk When is Hamilton due back? Earlier in the year it seemed he had the ability/temperament to close. I do think some of the injured bullpen people could help Hamilton burdi efforts etc. I know we say this bullpen is terrible but you don't get the top run differential by accident. The end of games have been the most problem. I think that is fixable. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Aug 19, 2024 11:14:11 GMT -5
Yep. Kimbrel has been replaced by one of their deadline acquisitions Seranthony Dominguez, who has pitched well for them. Unfortunately, the guys we traded for have turned out to be dog water. Still, we need to stop the insanity. Holmes is terrible. And it's even worse when you consider he started the year exceptionally well. By my count, he started the year 13/14 in save opportunities, and has gone a disgusting 13/22 since. That's 59% which is absolutely putrid. Try something, anything else. Weaver, Cousins, Kahnle...anybody... Ok but who are we replacing Holmes with? Yankees are 9-7 since trade deadline and Orioles 9-8 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Try Weaver or Cousins, or Kahnle. I don't care. Holmes is converting at a 59% rate since May 20th. That is horrible. Even if those guys by committee or one of them individually convert at 75%, that's an upgrade. And as a bonus, maybe Holmes does better pitching the 7th or 8th inning giving you another reliable MR guy. If one of those guys gets the job done a couple of times, we're 11-5 vs 9-7 and up a couple of games on them instead of this dead heat stalemate. Bottom line, he is not getting the job done. Try somebody else. What's the worst that happens? They stink, too? Okay, but at least you tried something else. Continuing to throw Holmes out there, which is essentially a coin flip, isn't working.
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 19, 2024 11:21:46 GMT -5
The Yankees are supposed to be the buzzsawr. Soto is on a 1 year deal. Judge is 32, Cole hits 34 in a couple of weeks. The payroll is weighed down with bad contracts and the bad years of contracts that were spread out to minimize the LT. I doubt if Stanton, Rodon, DJ or Stoman finds the Fountain of Youth this offseason and Aaron Hicls is still getting paid. The sky ain't falling...but I know when someone is pissing on my head and when it is just rain ! We have seen that at times this year they were just in a 8 of 10? Less than 2 weeks ago. They have the most runs scored in the Al and second most in the mlb. They also have the highest run differential in mlb even with all these blown leads. The team is capable of winning.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Every MLB team wins games...We saw that with the Tigers and White Sox. And division leaders can blow leads. I watched the '64 Phillies blow an insurmountable regular season lead. And I watched the 2004 Yankees blow an insurmoutable 3 - 0 playoff lead. Yes, every team is capable.
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 19, 2024 11:23:46 GMT -5
Ok but who are we replacing Holmes with? Yankees are 9-7 since trade deadline and Orioles 9-8 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk When is Hamilton due back? Earlier in the year it seemed he had the ability/temperament to close. I can't find anything to report. He was supposed to be working by now. Maybe he is and it is not getting press.
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Aug 19, 2024 11:28:38 GMT -5
When is Hamilton due back? Earlier in the year it seemed he had the ability/temperament to close. I can't find anything to report. He was supposed to be working by now. Maybe he is and it is not getting press. I thought i saw something this weekend about him throwing live BP. Don't recall any kind of timeframes being discussed, though.
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Post by qimqam on Aug 19, 2024 11:47:56 GMT -5
Had to turn the game off with one out in the 9th and no one on. I see Clay Holmes strikes again. I wonder when the Yankees will realize he is not a closer and let Weaver try. Yeah cause Weaver is a closer! Wait doesnt Weaver have a 7 plus era in the last month?
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