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Post by pimmersj on Aug 26, 2024 5:43:40 GMT -5
I don’t understand what their obsession with swapping crap for crap in the pen.
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Post by inger on Aug 26, 2024 11:50:18 GMT -5
I don’t understand what their obsession with swapping crap for crap in the pen. They’re just biding time until Ian Hamilton’s rehab is completed… |
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Post by nw on Aug 27, 2024 11:49:57 GMT -5
I don’t understand what their obsession with swapping crap for crap in the pen. It definitely speaks to the Yankees' organizational plan and one I've never understood with their bullpen. The Yankees have for years now filled the lower spots in their bullpen with dumpster dives. The problem with dumpster dives is that they often don't have options, so when you have a few days where the bullpen is taxed and you need a fresh arm, you have to go back to the dumpster and DFA someone. Giving credit where it's due, the Yankees have gotten some good performances in the short term from these dumpster dives (Tonkin being a good example). If you look at other teams around the league, they use these dumpster dives sometimes, but these lower bullpen spots are often filled with their pitching prospects. This yields two advantages. First, those players have options and, even with the 10 day wait rule, it gives the team a quasi-bigger bullpen, allowing teams to swap these developing prospects back and forth as needed. It also gives teams a chance to evaluate what type of talent that they may have. You might bring a guy up to feel these mop up spots and find out that he's really good. In that case, you can keep him as a staple in your pen and you have him under team control for several years. These bullpen arms that are on other teams' AAA-MLB shuttle are often mid to late draft picks and 3 to 4 year NCAA pitchers. If a reliever has pitched 3 to 4 years in NCAA D-1, they can often be fast tracked through Rookie ball, Low A, and High A, getting to AA quickly where they really start to learn the ropes. They could be on the track to a MLB bullpen 2 years or less from their draft. A perfect example of this would be Joba Chamberlain. I'm not sure whether the Yanks have been soured for years with the way that turned out and it changed their organizational philosophy but it seems to me they haven't really gone this route since. The Yankees had a guy who could have been on this track in Jack Neely. He pitched at tOSU, was in his third year separated from the draft, and was seemingly ready to get a chance. Instead of trying them, they traded him for an established but pedestrian arm (who has spit the bit since we got him). Neely went to Chicago's north side and made his debut a couple of weeks later. His debut has been up and down as you would expect any new major leaguer, but the fresh arm has been able to make 4 appearances in 6 days since being called up. |
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Post by bumper on Aug 27, 2024 11:57:14 GMT -5
tonkin got caught in the numbers thing. had just pitched a couple innings and we needed an arm. tonkin was a dive that worked well for a while, but pretty much returned to "form" recently so was expendable. not sure why they didn't just bring marinaccio up instead resorting to another dumpster. reality is most of these guys are really more garbage time pitchers and expendable.
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Post by fwclipper51 on Aug 27, 2024 18:34:22 GMT -5
I don’t understand what their obsession with swapping crap for crap in the pen. They’re just biding time until Ian Hamilton’s rehab is completed… The Yankees announced that they have claimed outfielder Duke Ellis off waivers from the Mariners. The latter club designated him for assignment in recent days. To open a 40-man spot, right-hander Ian Hamilton was transferred to the 60-day injured list. |
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Post by fwclipper51 on Aug 27, 2024 18:37:13 GMT -5
From MLB Rumors 8/27/24
Twins Claim Michael Tonkin
By Darragh McDonald | August 27, 2024 at 1:38pm CDT
The Yankees announced that right-hander Michael Tonkin has been claimed off waivers by the Twins. The Yanks had designated him for assignment in recent days. The Twins will need to make a corresponding move to open a 40-man roster spot, as well as an active roster spot once Tonkin reports to the club. Dan Hayes of The Athletic relayed news of the claim on X prior to the official transaction.
Tonkin, 34, was originally a Twins draftee (30th round, 2008) who reached the majors with Minnesota in 2013 but quickly descended into journeyman status. After spending the 2008-17 seasons in the Twins’ system — and pitching in the majors each year from 2013-17 — Tonkin spent the 2018 season with Japan’s Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters. He returned stateside in 2019 and has spent time with the Brewers, D-backs, Braves, Mets and Yankees organizations in addition to stints in the Atlantic League and in the Mexican League.
After a 5-year absence, Tonkin returned to the majors with the Braves last year and pitched 80 solid innings out of their bullpen. This season, he’s bounced between the Mets, Yankees and Twins via waivers. This’ll be his second stint of the current season in Minnesota. He’ll hope for better results than he had in his first, when he pitched two innings and yielded two runs.
Tonkin seems to have found something during his run with the Yankees, however. After being claimed off waivers out of the Twins organization, he spent 3e months with the Yankees and pitched to a sharp 3.38 ERA with a 24.6% strikeout rate and 9.1% walk rate in 56 innings (39 total appearances). The Yankees used him primarily in low-leverage, multi-inning spots — and Tonkin took to the role quite nicely. He’d hit a rough patch over the pas t5 weeks though, yielding 15 earned runs in his past 19 1/3 innings.
The Twins have shuffled up their bullpen mix more than they’d hoped this season, in part due to injuries. Minnesota just recently designated veteran lefty Steven Okert for assignment and passed him through waivers. Tonkin will give them a fresh arm to replace Okert. He’ll join a talented but top-heavy Twins bullpen that’s headlined by one of the game’s best 1-2 punches: Jhoan Duran and Griffin Jax.
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