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Post by qwik3457bb on Aug 27, 2024 22:32:09 GMT -5
I wish Cashman had showed the same respect and loyalty to Bernie Williams or Jorge Posada as their careers ended that he shows to DJ. Or maybe Cash just doens''t want to admit that he got euchred to the tune of $ 40 M in those negotiations. I wish Cashman would have give DJ more money per year but a lot less years. He outsmarted himself with that one. Has to do with payroll/luxury tax caps limits, needed to lower the average annual value. Same reason why he gave Hicks 7 years. Lowered the AAV.
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Post by kaybli on Aug 27, 2024 22:36:00 GMT -5
Just wanted to say good night to anyone still reading. I'll try to get to the game thread at some point tomorrow, not sure when. Bye for now. Good night qwik, and best of luck tomorrow!
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Post by bumper on Aug 27, 2024 22:37:41 GMT -5
your options were grisham & rice neither of whom would represent an upgrade. i would have taken a shot with cabrera. but being a former player, boone believes as you said that DJ will turn it around. over his previous 2 games, he was 3-6 and drove in 2 w sac flies last night and did have a hit tonite. people who actually played the game have a lot more patience than fans with regards to slumping players. Any of the three would have been a better option. Against RH pitching Grisham's OPS is 691. Rice's OPS against right handers is 671. OC's is 729. DJ's is 571. i did say "i would have taken a shot with cabrera" ...
as for ben rice, he's 2 for his last 32. grisham might be a little better. also finnegan has reverse splits. RH batters have a .732 OPS against him while LH batters have a .636 OPS. DJ was 4 for 9 w 2 sac flies coming into that AB so boone went with the "hot" hand.
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Aug 27, 2024 22:48:45 GMT -5
Any of the three would have been a better option. Against RH pitching Grisham's OPS is 691. Rice's OPS against right handers is 671. OC's is 729. DJ's is 571. i did say "i would have taken a shot with cabrera" ...
as for ben rice, he's 2 for his last 32. grisham might be a little better. also finnegan has reverse splits. RH batters have a .732 OPS against him while LH batters have a .636 OPS. DJ was 4 for 9 w 2 sac flies coming into that AB so boone went with the "hot" hand.
Rice has no business in MLB right now. He's lost.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 27, 2024 23:52:42 GMT -5
i did say "i would have taken a shot with cabrera" ...
as for ben rice, he's 2 for his last 32. grisham might be a little better. also finnegan has reverse splits. RH batters have a .732 OPS against him while LH batters have a .636 OPS. DJ was 4 for 9 w 2 sac flies coming into that AB so boone went with the "hot" hand.
Rice has no business in MLB right now. He's lost. I think the lack of playing time doesn't help.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Aug 28, 2024 0:21:49 GMT -5
Just wanted to say good night to anyone still reading. I'll try to get to the game thread at some point tomorrow, not sure when. Bye for now. Good night qwik, and best of luck tomorrow! Thanks, kay.
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Post by bumper on Aug 28, 2024 0:37:03 GMT -5
Rice has no business in MLB right now. He's lost. I think the lack of playing time doesn't help. that's only started recently. the decline in performance came first. from the time of his call-up through july he played in all 35 games the yankees played and started 29 of them. think that 3 HR game was a curse. at that point he was hitting .294. he then hit .143 for the rest of the month. the days off started in august though just a week ago, he started 4 in a row. he's 2-32 in august. guessing pitchers - merciless creatures that they are, have a book on him. it's up to him to adjust.
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Post by JEGnj on Aug 28, 2024 8:37:35 GMT -5
Disappointing loss with our Ace on the mound following a fun game with back to back to back HRs.
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 28, 2024 9:21:47 GMT -5
Any of the three would have been a better option. Against RH pitching Grisham's OPS is 691. Rice's OPS against right handers is 671. OC's is 729. DJ's is 571. i did say "i would have taken a shot with cabrera" ...
as for ben rice, he's 2 for his last 32. grisham might be a little better. also finnegan has reverse splits. RH batters have a .732 OPS against him while LH batters have a .636 OPS. DJ was 4 for 9 w 2 sac flies coming into that AB so boone went with the "hot" hand.
A day later I am still annoyed at Boone. I know you are offering a reasonable explanation for Boone's decision. Where I disagree is that I attribute Boone's call to a desire to please the FO and the contract they gave DJ.
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Post by bumper on Aug 28, 2024 9:26:47 GMT -5
Disappointing loss with our Ace on the mound following a fun game with back to back to back HRs. as i said, it was easy to put this in the win column based on the matchups - our ace against the starter with the worst ERA. but of course despite how some fans wanna make it, that's not how the game works. corbin who has been a top notch pitcher but struggled the last couple seasons, gets it together and keeps our lineup off balance. cole wasn't terrible but had that one bad inning with the back-to-backs.
O's beat the dodgers as urias continues his hot hitting to put the O's ahead. our lead is cut to a game as we remain tied w the dodgers & phillies for most wins. and don't look now, w the guardians slumping, the royals are now tied w cleveland in the central as it looks like 2 WC teams could come from that division. in the NL west both the dbacks & the padres are breathing down the dodgers back.
i am a believer in the crap shoot nature of the PS. and with so much parity or mediocrity, it will come down to who gets hot. think any of the 12 teams could win it all. right now there are 9 teams within 3 games of each other.
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 28, 2024 9:30:11 GMT -5
i did say "i would have taken a shot with cabrera" ...
as for ben rice, he's 2 for his last 32. grisham might be a little better. also finnegan has reverse splits. RH batters have a .732 OPS against him while LH batters have a .636 OPS. DJ was 4 for 9 w 2 sac flies coming into that AB so boone went with the "hot" hand.
A day later I am still annoyed at Boone. I know you are offering a reasonable explanation for Boone's decision. Where I disagree is that I attribute Boone's call to a desire to please the FO and the contract they gave DJ. Using statistical analysis to help you make good decisions is good managing. Being a slave to statistical analysis is bad managing. We saw the later last night with Boone, splits don't matter with a guy hitting .200 with a 48 OPS+ and a -1.5 WAR.
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 28, 2024 9:41:03 GMT -5
i am a believer in the crap shoot nature of the PS. and with so much parity or mediocrity, it will come down to who gets hot. think any of the 12 teams could win it all. right now there are 9 teams within 3 games of each other.
I always question what that means. I don't play craps. I do know that if I roll a pair of dice the probability of numbers from 2 to 12 showing up range from 3% to 17%.
When it is said that the playoffs are a "crapshoot" does that mean that the worst team has about a 1/33 chance of winning the best about 1/6 ? Or is it saying every team in the playoffs has an equal chance of winning ? I know in the table games the payouts are adjusted to reflect the odds....but in baseball it seems the payoff is the same for everyone.
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 28, 2024 9:53:56 GMT -5
A day later I am still annoyed at Boone. I know you are offering a reasonable explanation for Boone's decision. Where I disagree is that I attribute Boone's call to a desire to please the FO and the contract they gave DJ. Using statistical analysis to help you make good decisions is good managing. Being a slave to statistical analysis is bad managing. We saw the later last night with Boone, splits don't matter with a guy hitting .200 with a 48 OPS+ and a -1.5 WAR. The Yankees decision to pay DJ $90 M in the hopes of winning a WS did not pay off. Sometimes the only option open is to pay the bill and move on. DJ might someday have a few Matt Carpenter moments, but I think his best days are well behind him.
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Post by bumper on Aug 28, 2024 10:02:12 GMT -5
A day later I am still annoyed at Boone. I know you are offering a reasonable explanation for Boone's decision. Where I disagree is that I attribute Boone's call to a desire to please the FO and the contract they gave DJ. Using statistical analysis to help you make good decisions is good managing. Being a slave to statistical analysis is bad managing. We saw the later last night with Boone, splits don't matter with a guy hitting .200 with a 48 OPS+ and a -1.5 WAR. actually don't think boone's decision was totally based on stats. it was a hunch, part heart. certainly has seen DJ struggle but still holds onto the belief that there's still some of the old DJ in there. and his recent "hot" streak, however minimal it may be, rekindles that particularly given the other "options".
it's almost comical to hear folks whining for rice who has been terrible or grisham who folks moan about every time he comes to bat and don't think he should even be on the team. i'd have gone w ocab but who knows how that woulda turned out. ultimately the decision was wrong because the player didn't get it done.
this game was lost in the first 8 innings when they made the worst starter in baseball look like cy young. judge & verdugo hit into DPs to end threats in the 7th & 8th. soto hitless. and we saw some of the worst fielding of the season. while i would have gone w ocab, boone sticking w DJ didn't lose this game.
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 28, 2024 10:13:55 GMT -5
Using statistical analysis to help you make good decisions is good managing. Being a slave to statistical analysis is bad managing. We saw the later last night with Boone, splits don't matter with a guy hitting .200 with a 48 OPS+ and a -1.5 WAR. actually don't think boone's decision was totally based on stats. it was a hunch, part heart. certainly has seen DJ struggle but still holds onto the belief that there's still some of the old DJ in there. and his recent "hot" streak, however minimal it may be, rekindles that particularly given the other "options".
it's almost comical to hear folks whining for rice who has been terrible or grisham who folks moan about every time he comes to bat and don't think he should even be on the team. i'd have gone w ocab but who knows how that woulda turned out. ultimately the decision was wrong because the player didn't get it done.
this game was lost in the first 8 innings when they made the worst starter in baseball look like cy young. judge & verdugo hit into DPs to end threats in the 7th & 8th. soto hitless. and we saw some of the worst fielding of the season. while i would have gone w ocab, boone sticking w DJ didn't lose this game. Boone said is the post game conference his decision to allow DJ to hit was based on Finnegan's reverse splits. Boone said something like Finnegan being murder on left handed hitters, although he's probably murder on .200 hitting right handed hitters too. Not sure anyone mentioned that three left handed hitters had hits in that inning off Finnegan.
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