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Post by azbob643 on Oct 10, 2024 14:10:40 GMT -5
Comments on the unique qualities of any ballpark can be made without downplaying a player's HR. As I said...I never heard Kay or Pauly make a comment like I read on here that Costas said Torres kind of blasted a HR. Why down play it? A HR is a HR. The short porch is there for both teams. But as I read on here there were no snide remarks when a Royals player hit a HR to the short porch.
If there's nothing more or nothing less maybe you can answer this question...Let me ask again..How do you explain that? Since you didn't hear it yourself, you're basing your argument on the perceptions of other posters who evidently have a dislike for Costas.
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Post by Max on Oct 10, 2024 14:28:45 GMT -5
I read a what seems to me was a sarcastic post on here that mentioned Judge's 16 post season HRs meaning nothing. My guess is that someone must have said something negative about Judge's post season HRs. If I'm correct, my guess again that it wasn't Darling who did so. I believe it was Costas who said it, after he had prefaced it by making it clear that it wasn't meant as a slam on Judge. Several posters here have made the same observation. What exactly did he say?
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Post by Max on Oct 10, 2024 14:30:40 GMT -5
Comments on the unique qualities of any ballpark can be made without downplaying a player's HR. As I said...I never heard Kay or Pauly make a comment like I read on here that Costas said Torres kind of blasted a HR. Why down play it? A HR is a HR. The short porch is there for both teams. But as I read on here there were no snide remarks when a Royals player hit a HR to the short porch.
If there's nothing more or nothing less maybe you can answer this question...Let me ask again..How do you explain that? Since you didn't hear it yourself, you're basing your argument on the perceptions of other posters who evidently have a dislike for Costas. I'm basing it on posters who I trust. Are they lying? Did what they said happen or not.
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Post by azbob643 on Oct 10, 2024 14:31:07 GMT -5
I believe it was Costas who said it, after he had prefaced it by making it clear that it wasn't meant as a slam on Judge. Several posters here have made the same observation. What exactly did he say? He went to great lengths to make it clear that it was not meant as a slight re Judge, who he referred to as a HOF bound player.
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Post by Max on Oct 10, 2024 14:33:52 GMT -5
He went to great lengths to make it clear that it was not meant as a slight re Judge, who he referred to as a HOF bound player. That doesn't tell me what he said. If he had to go to great lengths it doesn't sound like he gave Judge's post season HRs any complements.
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Post by azbob643 on Oct 10, 2024 14:34:38 GMT -5
Since you didn't hear it yourself, you're basing your argument on the perceptions of other posters who evidently have a dislike for Costas. I'm basing it on posters who I trust. Are they lying? Did what they said happen or not. Frankly, I don't recall the "blasted" comment which means it was unremarkable to me, but who's to say it was sarcastic?
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Post by azbob643 on Oct 10, 2024 14:36:39 GMT -5
He went to great lengths to make it clear that it was not meant as a slight re Judge, who he referred to as a HOF bound player. That doesn't tell me what he said. If he had to go to great lengths it doesn't sound like he gave Judge's post season HRs any complements. If you want a verbatim account of what he said you'll have to listen to the audio. It should be easy to find.
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Post by Max on Oct 10, 2024 14:42:02 GMT -5
I'm basing it on posters who I trust. Are they lying? Did what they said happen or not. Frankly, I don't recall the "blasted" comment which means it was unremarkable to me, but who's to say it was sarcastic? I believe the post on Torres' HR in the short post said "kind of blasted". Kind of? Even reading it the comment looks snide.
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Post by azbob643 on Oct 10, 2024 14:48:06 GMT -5
Frankly, I don't recall the "blasted" comment which means it was unremarkable to me, but who's to say it was sarcastic? I believe the post on Torres' HR in the short post said "kind of blasted". Kind of? Even reading it the comment looks snide. Pretty tough to detect sarcasm in a written post. BTW...if you really want to know what Costas said about Judge go to 55:30 into the video of the game.
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Post by Max on Oct 10, 2024 14:59:30 GMT -5
That doesn't tell me what he said. If he had to go to great lengths it doesn't sound like he gave Judge's post season HRs any complements. If you want a verbatim account of what he said you'll have to listen to the audio. It should be easy to find. What I found was Costas repeating something that someone wrote about Boone having more forever postseason moments than Judge. Yes, Boone hit a big game ending, series ending HR. Yeah well, not that many players do that. Not sure why Judge had to be mentioned/singled out.
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Post by Max on Oct 10, 2024 15:00:24 GMT -5
I believe the post on Torres' HR in the short post said "kind of blasted". Kind of? Even reading it the comment looks snide. Pretty tough to detect sarcasm in a written post. Not for me, if the quote is correct.
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Post by azbob643 on Oct 10, 2024 15:07:03 GMT -5
If you want a verbatim account of what he said you'll have to listen to the audio. It should be easy to find. What I found was Costas repeating something that someone wrote about Boone having more forever postseason moments than Judge. Yes, Boone hit a big game ending, series ending HR. Guess that's the difference between me, you and apparently most others...I don't find that the least bit offensive. It's simply an interesting fact...nothing to get worked up about. Let me ask you this...do you believe Costas and others go out of their way to criticize Judge? Do you believe he has an anti-Judge/Yankee agenda?
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Post by Max on Oct 10, 2024 16:01:11 GMT -5
What I found was Costas repeating something that someone wrote about Boone having more forever postseason moments than Judge. Yes, Boone hit a big game ending, series ending HR. Guess that's the difference between me, you and apparently most others...I don't find that the least bit offensive. It's simply an interesting fact...nothing to get worked up about. Let me ask you this...do you believe Costas and others go out of their way to criticize Judge? Do you believe he has an anti-Judge/Yankee agenda? Again, not worked up about it, not a problem, etc. It's only MLB. Besides, the mute button works wonders.
Not sure why was the rest of my posted edited out when it's relevant to what you replied to. What I said was...What I found was Costas repeating something that someone wrote about Boone having more forever postseason moments than Judge. Yes, Boone hit a big game ending, series ending HR. Yeah well, not that many players do that. Not sure why Judge had to be mentioned/singled out.
There's a whole laundry list of players that don't have the postseason moment that Boone had. Judge has 16 postseason HRs. To each their own, but I don't find it interesting when a former mediocre player is compared to a future Hall of Famer.
As far as your question, I can't say for sure if some have an agenda or not. But I asked you many posts ago if you can explain... Why was the short porch mentioned and not the other Yankees stadium dimensions mentioned where fly ball outs can be HRs in other ballparks? Why a snide comment about Torres HR to the short porch and not a snide comment when a Royals player hit a HR into the short porch?
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Post by ypaterson on Oct 10, 2024 16:26:33 GMT -5
What I found was Costas repeating something that someone wrote about Boone having more forever postseason moments than Judge. Yes, Boone hit a big game ending, series ending HR. Guess that's the difference between me, you and apparently most others...I don't find that the least bit offensive. It's simply an interesting fact...nothing to get worked up about. Let me ask you this...do you believe Costas and others go out of their way to criticize Judge? Do you believe he has an anti-Judge/Yankee agenda? I did not listen to much of the broadcast. Did Costas give listeners any perspective on Judge's postseason struggles ? Did he bring up the names of guys like Willie Mays, Joe Morgan or Tony Perez who were disappointing in October ? If he did, that is fine with me. If he didn't, I think he did a poor job for a national broadcast. The bar gets set high when you are a HOF broadcaster. If he used the Boone line, IMO he had to give listeners who are not baseball historians a fuller picture of the story.
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Post by azbob643 on Oct 10, 2024 17:03:03 GMT -5
Not sure why was the rest of my posted edited out when it's relevant to what you replied to. What I said was...What I found was Costas repeating something that someone wrote about Boone having more forever postseason moments than Judge. Yes, Boone hit a big game ending, series ending HR. Yeah well, not that many players do that. Not sure why Judge had to be mentioned/singled out.
There's a whole laundry list of players that don't have the postseason moment that Boone had. Judge has 16 postseason HRs. To each their own, but I don't find it interesting when a former mediocre player is compared to a future Hall of Famer.
As far as your question, I can't say for sure if some have an agenda or not. But I asked you many posts ago if you can explain... Why was the short porch mentioned and not the other Yankees stadium dimensions mentioned where fly ball outs can be HRs in other ballparks? Why a snide comment about Torres HR to the short porch and not a snide comment when a Royals player hit a HR into the short porch?
Speaking of "beating a dead horse", I think we may just about be there, but I'll do my best to answer your questions... He was talking about the Boone/Judge HR thing during a postseason game in a series in which Judge is struggling. Context. IMO it was a simple factual piece of amusing trivia...nothing more. Really don't understand why you or anyone else would take offense to it. Evidently you believe Costas doesn't respect Judge, although he went to great lengths to state otherwise. Re the short porch...if Costas sarcastically called Gelyber's HR a "blast", which he didn't when it was hit, so what? And as I said...how do we know it was sarcasm? Apparently you and others feel Costas has an anti-Yankees agenda, although it's been pointed out here that he was a Yankee fan who idolized Mantle and delivered his eulogy.
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