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Post by chiyankee on Oct 19, 2024 15:14:02 GMT -5
Yet there are those now complaining he's (Gleyber) not hitting HRs... It's nice when it happens, but he Yankees have plenty of HR hitters. So I couldn't care less if Torres or Volpe hit HRs. They will still hit HR's with a line drive approach, guys like Mattingly and Brett did. |
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Post by Max on Oct 19, 2024 15:26:43 GMT -5
It's nice when it happens, but he Yankees have plenty of HR hitters. So I couldn't care less if Torres or Volpe hit HRs. They will still hit HR's with a line drive approach, guys like Mattingly and Brett did. Agreed. |
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Post by azbob643 on Oct 19, 2024 15:27:12 GMT -5
Yet there are those now complaining he's (Gleyber) not hitting HRs... I read somewhere that Gleyber has reached base in the first inning in 7 of the Yanks 8 playoff games. Setting the table for Soto and Judge and then later in the game, coming up with clutch hits. Gleyber has been outstanding since mid-season, including the playoffs. In fact, he's been a plus-plus player for the Yanks since he came up. Unfortunately, he's been a whipping boy for some who doesn't come close to deserving the criticism he's received here. Some jump on & off bandwagons...all one needs to do is read the game thread posts for evidence of that. For example, you'll see that some are "soooo done with Gleyber" until he's done something positive, then worry that he might be injured and unable to play. Beyond ridiculous. |
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Post by ypaterson on Oct 19, 2024 15:45:26 GMT -5
I read somewhere that Gleyber has reached base in the first inning in 7 of the Yanks 8 playoff games. Setting the table for Soto and Judge and then later in the game, coming up with clutch hits. Gleyber has been outstanding since mid-season, including the playoffs. In fact, he's been a plus-plus player for the Yanks since he came up. Unfortunately, he's been a whipping boy for some who doesn't come close to deserving the criticism he's received here. Some jump on & off bandwagons...all one needs to do is read the game thread posts for evidence of that. For example, you'll see that some are "soooo done with Gleyber" until he's done something positive, then worry that he might be injured and unable to play. Beyond ridiculous. In some part Gleyber could never live up to the hype that got generated when he was acquired. Fans wanted him to be the next Alex Rodriguez. Maybe the expectations were not always realistic. |
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Post by azbob643 on Oct 19, 2024 15:59:00 GMT -5
Gleyber has been outstanding since mid-season, including the playoffs. In fact, he's been a plus-plus player for the Yanks since he came up. Unfortunately, he's been a whipping boy for some who doesn't come close to deserving the criticism he's received here. Some jump on & off bandwagons...all one needs to do is read the game thread posts for evidence of that. For example, you'll see that some are "soooo done with Gleyber" until he's done something positive, then worry that he might be injured and unable to play. Beyond ridiculous. In some part Gleyber could never live up to the hype that got generated when he was acquired. Fans wanted him to be the next Alex Rodriguez. Maybe the expectations were not always realistic. IMO the criticism of him has nothing to do with whatever hype there was regarding his acquisition. I've followed him since he was a Cubs prospect. He was never was touted as "the next Alex Rodriguez" and anyone who expected him to be so was/is, unsurprisingly, ridiculously ignorant. |
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 19, 2024 18:15:36 GMT -5
It's got to be killing Nestor not to be part of this run.
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Post by ypaterson on Oct 19, 2024 19:02:51 GMT -5
In some part Gleyber could never live up to the hype that got generated when he was acquired. Fans wanted him to be the next Alex Rodriguez. Maybe the expectations were not always realistic. IMO the criticism of him has nothing to do with whatever hype there was regarding his acquisition. I've followed him since he was a Cubs prospect. He was never was touted as "the next Alex Rodriguez" and anyone who expected him to be so was/is, unsurprisingly, ridiculously ignorant. Why do you believe Yankee fans are not as loyal to Torres as to other guys who played here for 6 years ? (for post game discussion) |
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Post by azbob643 on Oct 20, 2024 10:43:33 GMT -5
IMO the criticism of him has nothing to do with whatever hype there was regarding his acquisition. I've followed him since he was a Cubs prospect. He was never was touted as "the next Alex Rodriguez" and anyone who expected him to be so was/is, unsurprisingly, ridiculously ignorant. Why do you believe Yankee fans are not as loyal to Torres as to other guys who played here for 6 years ? (for post game discussion) For starters, it’s not all Yankee fans who are not “loyal” to Gleyber. There’s definitely a vocal segment, but I’m not sure it’s a majority. As a lifelong, dyed-in-the-wool Yankee fan, there are a few things I’ve learned in the time I’ve been participating in Yankee message boards, going back to the MLB message board, then YES and now here… Once a player gets on a fan’s sh-list it’s almost impossible for that player to be seen objectively…regardless. That player is under a microscope, and any minor miscue…real or imagined…is magnified, because it validates the fan’s position. And, IMO, a sort of mob mentality eventually takes over…some people feel most comfortable as part of a group. Re Gleyber specifically…sure, he’s made his share of mistakes. I don’t know of any player that hasn’t. Brayan Rocchio, a GG caliber SS, made two very critical errors in the ALCS. In fact, an argument could be made that those errors cost the Guardians the pennant. But something tells me we won’t see the vitriol spewed his way we’d undoubtedly see had Gleyber done anything remotely similar. Instead, a case could be made that the Yanks wouldn’t be celebrating today without his contributions. Maybe I’ve missed the posts acknowledging that. |
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Post by JEGnj on Oct 20, 2024 11:29:24 GMT -5
I hate to still say it but for 162 game season Stanton really does not help a team with a bunch of power hitters that can use a day off. Doesn't play the field, doesn't run, always misses time with injuries, and goes into horrible slumps but man does he turn into a great player in the playoffs.
Despite the criticism the guy does and says all the right things.
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Post by ypaterson on Oct 21, 2024 12:28:37 GMT -5
Why do you believe Yankee fans are not as loyal to Torres as to other guys who played here for 6 years ? (for post game discussion) For starters, it’s not all Yankee fans who are not “loyal” to Gleyber. There’s definitely a vocal segment, but I’m not sure it’s a majority. As a lifelong, dyed-in-the-wool Yankee fan, there are a few things I’ve learned in the time I’ve been participating in Yankee message boards, going back to the MLB message board, then YES and now here… Once a player gets on a fan’s sh-list it’s almost impossible for that player to be seen objectively…regardless. That player is under a microscope, and any minor miscue…real or imagined…is magnified, because it validates the fan’s position. And, IMO, a sort of mob mentality eventually takes over…some people feel most comfortable as part of a group. Re Gleyber specifically…sure, he’s made his share of mistakes. I don’t know of any player that hasn’t. Brayan Rocchio, a GG caliber SS, made two very critical errors in the ALCS. In fact, an argument could be made that those errors cost the Guardians the pennant. But something tells me we won’t see the vitriol spewed his way we’d undoubtedly see had Gleyber done anything remotely similar. Instead, a case could be made that the Yanks wouldn’t be celebrating today without his contributions. Maybe I’ve missed the posts acknowledging that. Same is true for Volpe. A lot of us, me included, were critical of him this year. Looking back, his series was impressive. But as with Torres, the love goes to guys who hit the long ball. |
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Post by azbob643 on Oct 21, 2024 12:35:47 GMT -5
Same is true for Volpe. A lot of us, me included, were critical of him this year. Looking back, his series was impressive. But as with Torres, the love goes to guys who hit the long ball. Interesting, since a common complaint here is that both Volpe & Gleyber should stop swinging for the fences. But when they do...where's the power? Ridiculous. |
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Post by inger on Oct 21, 2024 13:53:43 GMT -5
For starters, it’s not all Yankee fans who are not “loyal” to Gleyber. There’s definitely a vocal segment, but I’m not sure it’s a majority. As a lifelong, dyed-in-the-wool Yankee fan, there are a few things I’ve learned in the time I’ve been participating in Yankee message boards, going back to the MLB message board, then YES and now here… Once a player gets on a fan’s sh-list it’s almost impossible for that player to be seen objectively…regardless. That player is under a microscope, and any minor miscue…real or imagined…is magnified, because it validates the fan’s position. And, IMO, a sort of mob mentality eventually takes over…some people feel most comfortable as part of a group. Re Gleyber specifically…sure, he’s made his share of mistakes. I don’t know of any player that hasn’t. Brayan Rocchio, a GG caliber SS, made two very critical errors in the ALCS. In fact, an argument could be made that those errors cost the Guardians the pennant. But something tells me we won’t see the vitriol spewed his way we’d undoubtedly see had Gleyber done anything remotely similar. Instead, a case could be made that the Yanks wouldn’t be celebrating today without his contributions. Maybe I’ve missed the posts acknowledging that. Same is true for Volpe. A lot of us, me included, were critical of him this year. Looking back, his series was impressive. But as with Torres, the love goes to guys who hit the long ball. In Gleyber’s defense he became more entranced with the long ball when he hit 38 of them the year the ball was juiced, and Baltimore had a problematic short left field fence to aid him. He thought he could do that every year, maybe lead the league… |
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Post by ypaterson on Oct 21, 2024 17:45:03 GMT -5
Same is true for Volpe. A lot of us, me included, were critical of him this year. Looking back, his series was impressive. But as with Torres, the love goes to guys who hit the long ball. In Gleyber’s defense he became more entranced with the long ball when he hit 38 of them the year the ball was juiced, and Baltimore had a problematic short left field fence to aid him. He thought he could do that every year, maybe lead the league… In 2019 Gleyber Torres hit home runs in the neighborhood where Mike Trout, Kyle Schwarber, Nolan Arenado and Freddie Freemen live. Lots of guys in that part of town end up with 9 figure deals. I am sure Gleyber had those thoughts in his head. Who wouldn't ? I checked the numbers for that season and Torres hit 20 of his home runs at home. The ball was alive that season but everything had to be working for him that year. Guys have outlier years. Roger Maris set the home run record with 61 but never got to 40 in any season before or after. Sometimes things just work for you. |
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Post by inger on Oct 21, 2024 19:49:54 GMT -5
In Gleyber’s defense he became more entranced with the long ball when he hit 38 of them the year the ball was juiced, and Baltimore had a problematic short left field fence to aid him. He thought he could do that every year, maybe lead the league… In 2019 Gleyber Torres hit home runs in the neighborhood where Mike Trout, Kyle Schwarber, Nolan Arenado and Freddie Freemen live. Lots of guys in that part of town end up with 9 figure deals. I am sure Gleyber had those thoughts in his head. Who wouldn't ? I checked the numbers for that season and Torres hit 20 of his home runs at home. The ball was alive that season but everything had to be working for him that year. Guys have outlier years. Roger Maris set the home run record with 61 but never got to 40 in any season before or after. Sometimes things just work for you. But the ball was juiced, too… |
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Post by ypaterson on Oct 21, 2024 20:23:26 GMT -5
In 2019 Gleyber Torres hit home runs in the neighborhood where Mike Trout, Kyle Schwarber, Nolan Arenado and Freddie Freemen live. Lots of guys in that part of town end up with 9 figure deals. I am sure Gleyber had those thoughts in his head. Who wouldn't ? I checked the numbers for that season and Torres hit 20 of his home runs at home. The ball was alive that season but everything had to be working for him that year. Guys have outlier years. Roger Maris set the home run record with 61 but never got to 40 in any season before or after. Sometimes things just work for you. But the ball was juiced, too… It looked that way to me. |
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