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Post by cocopugg on Oct 26, 2024 8:26:45 GMT -5
All I can say is, I hope the Yankees bounce back and win this series, because in all honesty, I don't see this team coming back to the World Series again next year (and with Cleveland, Baltimore and KC on the rise, possibly for many more years), due to many factors, like age, teamwork (see errors and base running issues, for starters), bullpen issues, but most of all, the many bad calls (headed by tonight's bonehead idea to bring Nestor into the game) by Aaron Boone.
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Post by bumper on Oct 26, 2024 8:32:49 GMT -5
obviously a second guess but bringing in nestor was a disaster. a terrible pitch right in a LH happy zone. but too many poor fielding plays contributed. besides nestor the bullpen certainly wasn't crisp. 3.1 IP 3 H 0 R 1 BB before Nestor came in. What more do you want? the line reads better than it was. holmes hits teoscar. kahnle does a good job shutting that down but then allow a double to ohtani. then weaver allows the hard hit sac fly to betts. cousins walks lux. can't be doing that. followed by the IF hit by edman. not crisp ...
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Post by Lola on Oct 26, 2024 8:37:13 GMT -5
Poor fielding and managerial incompetence lead to pulling a loss out of the clutches of victory.
But we will bounce back tomorrow!
Poor umpiring early in the game didn’t help either!
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Post by Lola on Oct 26, 2024 8:41:05 GMT -5
I keep reading our defense was Bad ... should someone have caught that 500 ft GS because that is what losyt the game So if Gleyber doesn't allow Ohtani to go to third he doesn't score on the Sac Fly and it's likely 2-1 going into the 9th with Weaver pitching to close. The 10th never happens. And if Gleybers double (fan interference) ball goes a few more inches it’s a HR!
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Post by bigjeep on Oct 26, 2024 8:53:15 GMT -5
Your weakness always comes back to haunt you! We haven't had a "REAL" closer this year and when you parade out pitchers like Cousins and Cortes in such a big game, as closers, your in big trouble! Holmes was never a true closer and now we pay the price!
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 26, 2024 8:53:16 GMT -5
3.1 IP 3 H 0 R 1 BB before Nestor came in. What more do you want? the line reads better than it was. holmes hits teoscar. kahnle does a good job shutting that down but then allow a double to ohtani. then weaver allows the hard hit sac fly to betts. cousins walks lux. can't be doing that. followed by the IF hit by edman. not crisp ... You're being way too nitpicky when the weaver fly out wouldn't have scored anyone if the play before didn't allow an extra base and the IF hit by Edman was because Oswaldo didn't field cleanly. I'll give you the walk to Lux that wasn't something that should have happened, but 2 of the plays you mentioned were made worse by bad fielding nothing the bullpen did.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 26, 2024 8:57:27 GMT -5
Your weakness always comes back to haunt you! We haven't had a "REAL" closer this year and when you parade out pitchers like Cousins and Cortes in such a big game, as closers, you're in big trouble! Holmes was never a true closer and now we pay the price! The Dodgers rotation is so injured right now that they are forced to do a bullpen game in the World Series. The Yankees still have the advantage here pitching wise overall. There was better solutions there for that 10th inning. Boone didn't use them for whatever reason.
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Post by Lola on Oct 26, 2024 8:58:00 GMT -5
After showing how far he can give up a bomb, why would Boone eve consider such a move? I think he was being sarcastic, sardonic, derisive, whatever word you want to use. Nestor should only be used in a blowout we’re losing…other than that I don’t even know why he’s on the roster!
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Post by Lola on Oct 26, 2024 8:59:07 GMT -5
If we played good defense there would be no HR opportunity. So you could say we lost to bad defense as well.
Frankly, its the defense and the dumb managerial decision to pitch Nestor that piss me off more than the actual game ending HR.
The post game was in agreement here. Didn't understand the Nestor thing and called the Gleyber + Oswaldo plays extra outs that aren't acceptable in a game that close. One of those three things don't happen and they win. That’s what makes it so heartbreaking!💔
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Post by azbob643 on Oct 26, 2024 9:02:49 GMT -5
the line reads better than it was. holmes hits teoscar. kahnle does a good job shutting that down but then allow a double to ohtani. then weaver allows the hard hit sac fly to betts. cousins walks lux. can't be doing that. followed by the IF hit by edman. not crisp ... You're being way too nitpicky when the weaver fly out wouldn't have scored anyone if the play before didn't allow an extra base and the IF hit by Edman was because Oswaldo didn't field cleanly. I'll give you the walk to Lux that wasn't something that should have happened, but 2 of the plays you mentioned were made worse by bad fielding nothing the bullpen did. You're playing "what if" again. One AB/defensive "misplay" doesn't equal a loss. Gleyber should've kept Soto's throw in front of him, but to pin the loss on one misplay is a gross oversimplification.
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Oct 26, 2024 9:03:01 GMT -5
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Post by Lola on Oct 26, 2024 9:03:37 GMT -5
If you want to torture yourself some more like I did, Jomboy's breakdown:
Haven’t we been tortured enough! I left the room when Nestor came in the game! You can see these heart breaking losses coming… it’s never fast. More like slow painful torture!
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Post by cocopugg on Oct 26, 2024 9:04:39 GMT -5
I think he was being sarcastic, sardonic, derisive, whatever word you want to use. Nestor should only be used in a blowout we’re losing…other than that I don’t even know why he’s on the roster! I agree!
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Post by Lola on Oct 26, 2024 9:05:40 GMT -5
Team has no heart. No fire. Welcome to the board.
Yea, made it to the World Series with multiple clutch HRs and timely pitching but has no heart and fire.
Its one loss. Champions get tested and bounce back. Let's see what we're made of.
I guess he hasn’t seen Soto or Stanton at bats!
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 26, 2024 9:07:30 GMT -5
You're being way too nitpicky when the weaver fly out wouldn't have scored anyone if the play before didn't allow an extra base and the IF hit by Edman was because Oswaldo didn't field cleanly. I'll give you the walk to Lux that wasn't something that should have happened, but 2 of the plays you mentioned were made worse by bad fielding nothing the bullpen did. You're playing "what if" again. One AB/defensive "misplay" doesn't equal a loss. Gleyber should've kept Soto's throw in front of him, but to pin the loss on one misplay is a gross oversimplification. Ok well the entire post game crew that has way more baseball experience than me or you pointed out Gleyber and Osalwados plays as 2 of the 3 the biggest reasons they lost other than bringing in Nestor. None of them saw any other issues with the bullpen. You can't give teams 4 or 5 outs in an inning. Nothing the bullpen did caused that.
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