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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 29, 2024 1:01:28 GMT -5
I'm kinda surprised 3-0 hasn't happened more often. I get basketball usually the better team can out matchup the worse one and its likely they will take a game off to rest if they need it after going up 3-0.
Hockey get it into OT and its one and done no matter who scores.
Baseball though teams win 4 in a row during the season all the time and the more you see the bullpens in the series the better chance you have.
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Post by JEGnj on Oct 29, 2024 6:14:57 GMT -5
We can honestly say we saw this coming. The Yankees went through streaks when they looked great and some when they were the worst team in the league.
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Post by inger on Oct 29, 2024 7:40:22 GMT -5
I’m glad I didn’t pay extra to watch this horseshit… It really feels that way, doesn't it? I mean, if the Yankees lose tomorrow night, they will be the first Yankees team to go to the World Series and be swept, since the 1976 Yankees. The difference between the two teams is, as a result of the 1976 Yankees being swept, George Steinbrenner was determined to add the missing piece of the puzzle to the team, so he signed Reggie Jackson, and traded for Bucky Dent. Those moves resulted in the Yankees winning the World Series the next 2 years (1977 and 1978), understandably missing the playoffs in 1979 (due to the untimely, tragic death of Thurman Munson), then going back to the playoffs in 1980, and back to the World Series in 1981. This team however, is on a decline, due to age and lack of talent (which makes them actually getting to the World Series this season nothing short of a miracle all its own). There is no one player available in all of baseball, that the Yankees can sign for next season (including Soto) that would take this team back to the World Series stage, let alone win it! It's very frustrating, to say the least! I think we’d be better off letting Soto walk and using that money to add 3-4 solid players. We have too many black holes in the lineup surrounding Soto snd Judge. I love Soto, but it’s a poor fit. Too much money tied up… We need help at 1B, arguably 2B, SS needs to hit. LF, CF with Judge going back to RF….and another solid starter, plus bullpen pieces… |
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Post by Lola on Oct 29, 2024 7:53:37 GMT -5
Sometimes you gotta tip your cap... but IT AINT OVAH TILL ITS OVAH!
I'm going to tonights game so I'm hoping and praying for a win tonight!!! Getting swept and having them win on our field would be devastating... I won't be hanging around for that!
LETS GO YANKEES!!!
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Post by kaybli on Oct 29, 2024 8:20:39 GMT -5
Sometimes you gotta tip your cap... but IT AINT OVAH TILL ITS OVAH! I'm going to tonights game so I'm hoping and praying for a win tonight!!! Getting swept and having them win on our field would be devastating... I won't be hanging around for that! LETS GO YANKEES!!! Good luck Lola! Hope you see a winner tonight! |
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Post by Lola on Oct 29, 2024 8:35:24 GMT -5
Sometimes you gotta tip your cap... but IT AINT OVAH TILL ITS OVAH! I'm going to tonights game so I'm hoping and praying for a win tonight!!! Getting swept and having them win on our field would be devastating... I won't be hanging around for that! LETS GO YANKEES!!! Good luck Lola! Hope you see a winner tonight! Thanks Kay! |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 29, 2024 8:35:48 GMT -5
We can honestly say we saw this coming. The Yankees went through streaks when they looked great and some when they were the worst team in the league. Nobody saw this coming. The teams were in a statical tie for most categories and most expert predictions predicted 7. Plus most of the losses you are referring to came against terrible teams not good ones. |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Oct 29, 2024 8:37:40 GMT -5
It’s been painful just to listen… For teams so evenly matched statistically I never expected 3-0. I figured worse down 2-1 going into he bullpen game which would likely be a win to tie it 2-2 and then its BO3. I don't think it can be understated how big a blow losing game 1 the way they did was. Mindset is a real thing, and to blow a game that way can have profound effects on how a team believes in itself. I really think the die was cast after Freeman won that game. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 29, 2024 8:41:08 GMT -5
I'm kinda surprised 3-0 hasn't happened more often. I get basketball usually the better team can out matchup the worse one and its likely they will take a game off to rest if they need it after going up 3-0. Hockey get it into OT and its one and done no matter who scores. Baseball though teams win 4 in a row during the season all the time and the more you see the bullpens in the series the better chance you have. I've wondered the same thing. It doesn't seem like the odds should be that staggering, but obviously they are. Not only has no team ever come back from a 3-0 deficit in a World Series, no team has even forced a Game 6. There have been 24 World Series in which a team had a 3-0 lead; 21 ended with a sweep and three forced a fifth game, most recently in 1970 when the Reds did so against Baltimore. There have been nine sweeps since then, so history is definitely not on the side of the Yankees. Among MLB, the NBA and the NHL, only once has a team come back in the final round to win after being down 3-0. That would be the 1942 Toronto Maple Leafs, who defeated the Detroit Red Wings to win the Stanley Cup. Counting all playoff rounds, there have been five times a team came back from 3-0 to win, four times in the NHL and that one we all remember in MLB. It has never happened in any round in the NBA. There have been 11 times a team came back from 3-0 to force a Game 7 but then lost. Again the NHL has the most examples with six, with four in the NBA and one in MLB (2020 when Tampa Bay held on against Houston in the ALCS.) I don't know what it is about hockey that gives teams at least a glimmer of hope of making the ultimate comeback. But it's still very rare no matter how you slice it. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 29, 2024 8:51:44 GMT -5
Yankees records against above .500 teams:
ARI 2-1
CHC 2-1
CLE 4-2
DET 4-2
HOU 6-1
KC 5-2
MIL 2-1
MIN 6-0
PHI 3-0
SDP 2-1
SEA 4-3
ATL 1-2
BAL 5-8
LAD 1-2
NYM 0-4
STL 1-2
Thats 48 wins and 32 losses against teams that ended the season with a better than 500 record and most of those they didn't have a winning record against was NL teams.
There were a couple other teams that were .500 when they played them so their overall record for above .500 was 55-38. (I believe Boston accounted for most of these since the finished 81-81 and were above .500 most of the season).
Their record against below .500 39-30. The Dodgers were 47-23 against below .500 teams in comparison and 51-41 against above.500 teams.
The Yankees should have easily had over 100 wins with these kind of stats, but they always played down the lower competition.
So no Jegnj I did not "see this coming" since they had almost a .600 winning percentage against above .500 teams roughly 40 points higher than LAD in the same situation + LAD injuries + they don't even have a 4th starter. This series should be 2-1 right now at worse.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 29, 2024 8:58:58 GMT -5
I'm kinda surprised 3-0 hasn't happened more often. I get basketball usually the better team can out matchup the worse one and its likely they will take a game off to rest if they need it after going up 3-0. Hockey get it into OT and its one and done no matter who scores. Baseball though teams win 4 in a row during the season all the time and the more you see the bullpens in the series the better chance you have. I've wondered the same thing. It doesn't seem like the odds should be that staggering, but obviously they are. Not only has no team ever come back from a 3-0 deficit in a World Series, no team has even forced a Game 6. There have been 24 World Series in which a team had a 3-0 lead; 21 ended with a sweep and three forced a fifth game, most recently in 1970 when the Reds did so against Baltimore. There have been nine sweeps since then, so history is definitely not on the side of the Yankees. Among MLB, the NBA and the NHL, only once has a team come back in the final round to win after being down 3-0. That would be the 1942 Toronto Maple Leafs, who defeated the Detroit Red Wings to win the Stanley Cup. Counting all playoff rounds, there have been five times a team came back from 3-0 to win, four times in the NHL and that one we all remember in MLB. It has never happened in any round in the NBA. There have been 11 times a team came back from 3-0 to force a Game 7 but then lost. Again the NHL has the most examples with six, with four in the NBA and one in MLB (2020 when Tampa Bay held on against Houston in the ALCS.) I don't know what it is about hockey that gives teams at least a glimmer of hope of making the ultimate comeback. But it's still very rare no matter how you slice it. It's because in hockey you can get to a point in the game where if you score one goal it's over. That's not guaranteed in a baseball extra innings or a basketball OT. In a baseball extra innings the visiting team always bats first so they could score multiple runs in their half before the home team gets a chance. In basketball it's basically just another quarter with highest score wins. Hockey has an imminent finish. If you score just one time in OT it's over. Sure that can happen in baseball, but the away team would have to go scoreless first, before you get to that point so it's not the same stakes. The other thing with hockey is theres times you are allowed to play with more members on the ice than the other team. That's not allowed in baseball or basketball. |
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Post by ypaterson on Oct 29, 2024 9:00:43 GMT -5
For teams so evenly matched statistically I never expected 3-0. I figured worse down 2-1 going into he bullpen game which would likely be a win to tie it 2-2 and then its BO3. I don't think it can be understated how big a blow losing game 1 the way they did was. Mindset is a real thing, and to blow a game that way can have profound effects on how a team believes in itself. I really think the die was cast after Freeman won that game. Game 1 was a huge confidence boost for the Dodgers. Change the results and maybe they are the guys gripping bats too tightly and not making plays in the field. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 29, 2024 9:03:41 GMT -5
For teams so evenly matched statistically I never expected 3-0. I figured worse down 2-1 going into he bullpen game which would likely be a win to tie it 2-2 and then its BO3. I don't think it can be understated how big a blow losing game 1 the way they did was. Mindset is a real thing, and to blow a game that way can have profound effects on how a team believes in itself. I really think the die was cast after Freeman won that game. I can see this mentality for the game that was right after since it's fresh in your mind etc, but after you have a day off mind reset etc there's no excuse of the after effects effecting anything for game 3. This team should be playing with a chip on their shoulder in game 3 after the way the 2 LA games went and the drought NY sports has had since their last championship for the men's side. Nobody has won anything since the Giants in 2012 and this is only the second time a team has even made the final round in any of the four sports since then. They just never played like those stakes last night. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 29, 2024 9:07:34 GMT -5
One thing in the Red Sox favor in 2004 was the final 4 four games they won were all in a row with no off days because of rain. That makes it so much easier for a team to spiral since all of those games are back to back with no break espically since 2 of those games were grueling 5 hour losses.
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Post by bigjeep on Oct 29, 2024 9:17:31 GMT -5
Mets − $305,624,274 Yankees − $303,322,047 Dodgers − $249,823,654 How did they do that?  |
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