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Post by 1955nyyfan on Oct 29, 2024 9:23:22 GMT -5
One stat that sticks out to me is that Yankee batters have K'd 31 times compared to 17 Dodgers. Perhaps they have more pitchers with swing and miss stuff but when you put the ball in play good things can happen.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 29, 2024 9:24:26 GMT -5
One stat that sticks out to me is that Yankee batters have K'd 31 times compared to 17 Dodgers. Perhaps they have more pitchers with swing and miss stuff but when you put the ball in play good things can happen. Right just look at the 9th inning game 2 with the ball thing the base etc Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by ypaterson on Oct 29, 2024 9:28:14 GMT -5
Yankees records against above .500 teams: ARI 2-1 CHC 2-1 CLE 4-2 DET 4-2 HOU 6-1 KC 5-2 MIL 2-1 MIN 6-0 PHI 3-0 SDP 2-1 SEA 4-3 ATL 1-2 BAL 5-8 LAD 1-2 NYM 0-4 STL 1-2 Thats 48 wins and 32 losses against teams that ended the season with a better than 500 record and most of those they didn't have a winning record against was NL teams. There were a couple other teams that were .500 when they played them so their overall record for above .500 was 55-38. (I believe Boston accounted for most of these since the finished 81-81 and were above .500 most of the season). Their record against below .500 39-30. The Dodgers were 47-23 against below .500 teams in comparison and 51-41 against above.500 teams. The Yankees should have easily had over 100 wins with these kind of stats, but they always played down the lower competition. So no Jegnj I did not "see this coming" since they had almost a .600 winning percentage against above .500 teams roughly 40 points higher than LAD in the same situation + LAD injuries + they don't even have a 4th starter. This series should be 2-1 right now at worse. The rosters of the teams playing this week differ significantly from the rosters that played most of the games you cite. The Dodgers added Flaherty, Edmon, Kopech and Banda during the season. Each of those guys played a role winning the first 3 games. The Yankees added Chisholm and Leiter. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 29, 2024 9:37:55 GMT -5
Yankees records against above .500 teams: ARI 2-1 CHC 2-1 CLE 4-2 DET 4-2 HOU 6-1 KC 5-2 MIL 2-1 MIN 6-0 PHI 3-0 SDP 2-1 SEA 4-3 ATL 1-2 BAL 5-8 LAD 1-2 NYM 0-4 STL 1-2 Thats 48 wins and 32 losses against teams that ended the season with a better than 500 record and most of those they didn't have a winning record against was NL teams. There were a couple other teams that were .500 when they played them so their overall record for above .500 was 55-38. (I believe Boston accounted for most of these since the finished 81-81 and were above .500 most of the season). Their record against below .500 39-30. The Dodgers were 47-23 against below .500 teams in comparison and 51-41 against above.500 teams. The Yankees should have easily had over 100 wins with these kind of stats, but they always played down the lower competition. So no Jegnj I did not "see this coming" since they had almost a .600 winning percentage against above .500 teams roughly 40 points higher than LAD in the same situation + LAD injuries + they don't even have a 4th starter. This series should be 2-1 right now at worse. The rosters of the teams playing this week differ significantly from the rosters that played most of the games you cite. The Dodgers added Flaherty, Edmon, Kopech and Banda during the season. Each of those guys played a role winning the first 3 games. The Yankees added Chisholm and Leiter. I'm aware of this, but the Yankees always seemed to play with more emotion in games vs the better teams and the record shows that. Just look at the emotion they showed in the first two rounds as well. The Yankees just didn't seem to have that same emotion for Games 2 or 3. KC you had Jazz taking shots (even if it wasn't the smartest thing) and the body language was completely different. Cleveland multiple players were showing like a bravado towards them that they were better. I'm just not seeing any of that this series. The Yankees always felt in control the first 2 series. |
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Post by ypaterson on Oct 29, 2024 9:41:23 GMT -5
Mets − $305,624,274 Yankees − $303,322,047 Dodgers − $249,823,654 How did they do that?  The Dodgers total cap cost is higher than that of the Mets or Yankees. Ir ran about $360 M this year and includes posting fees and other expensives not in the :payroll" column. They also have a lot of deals that run another 8 or ten years that might not look pretty on the back end. |
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Post by ypaterson on Oct 29, 2024 9:48:46 GMT -5
One stat that sticks out to me is that Yankee batters have K'd 31 times compared to 17 Dodgers. Perhaps they have more pitchers with swing and miss stuff but when you put the ball in play good things can happen. Without Judge this is a 500 team. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 29, 2024 9:58:24 GMT -5
One stat that sticks out to me is that Yankee batters have K'd 31 times compared to 17 Dodgers. Perhaps they have more pitchers with swing and miss stuff but when you put the ball in play good things can happen. Without Judge this is a 500 team. I get this last year when the lineup consisted of McKinney, Bauers, Calhoun, etc, but Verdugo, Grisham, Jazz, Wells (who didn't come till late season last year), etc are better than that group of AAAA players. This team shouldn't have a shut off effect if Judge is slumping with the improved supporting cast. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by cocopugg on Oct 29, 2024 10:17:54 GMT -5
It really feels that way, doesn't it? I mean, if the Yankees lose tomorrow night, they will be the first Yankees team to go to the World Series and be swept, since the 1976 Yankees. The difference between the two teams is, as a result of the 1976 Yankees being swept, George Steinbrenner was determined to add the missing piece of the puzzle to the team, so he signed Reggie Jackson, and traded for Bucky Dent. Those moves resulted in the Yankees winning the World Series the next 2 years (1977 and 1978), understandably missing the playoffs in 1979 (due to the untimely, tragic death of Thurman Munson), then going back to the playoffs in 1980, and back to the World Series in 1981. This team however, is on a decline, due to age and lack of talent (which makes them actually getting to the World Series this season nothing short of a miracle all its own). There is no one player available in all of baseball, that the Yankees can sign for next season (including Soto) that would take this team back to the World Series stage, let alone win it! It's very frustrating, to say the least! This statement is ridiculous. They led the AL in offense is like 8 categories. What the Yankees achieved this year (and all their numbers) reflects just how poor the American League was compared to the National League in 2024. Or did you forget the Yankees going 0 and 4 against the Mets and 1-2 (at Yankee Stadium) against the Dodgers during the regular season? It should be pretty apparent to anyone who can see the truth objectively, that both the Mets AND Padres would've easily beaten these Yankees as well, if they would've made it to the World Series this year. Did you also forget how horrible the Yankees played throughout most of the middle part of the season? Yes the Yankees beat a beaten up much younger, and more talented Orioles team, which will be poised to run away with the American League east next season, And as for Cleveland, they too will have a younger, and stronger team, while the Yankees will be one year older, and loaded with far less talent and banged up veterans or players with mental hitting issues, because after this post season, a fan can only hope Judge's woes over his lack of post season production doesn't extend in the 2025 regular season (or beyond, if the Yankees miraculously make it to the post season). I'm proud of what the Yankees achieved this season, but at the same time I'm embarrassed at what they did...not in the post season, which I enjoyed all the way up to the World Series, but their appearance in the World Series was (yes WAS, because it's over, regardless of what happens tonight) a HUGE embarrassment, and something most fans will want to forget. I can't wait for all the off-season transactions to take place and Spring Training 2025 to finally get here, because the end of the 2024 season has left this Yankee fan the most disappointed I've been in the team since the Yankees lost to the Big Red Machine in 1976! |
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Post by cocopugg on Oct 29, 2024 10:20:51 GMT -5
It really feels that way, doesn't it? I mean, if the Yankees lose tomorrow night, they will be the first Yankees team to go to the World Series and be swept, since the 1976 Yankees. The difference between the two teams is, as a result of the 1976 Yankees being swept, George Steinbrenner was determined to add the missing piece of the puzzle to the team, so he signed Reggie Jackson, and traded for Bucky Dent. Those moves resulted in the Yankees winning the World Series the next 2 years (1977 and 1978), understandably missing the playoffs in 1979 (due to the untimely, tragic death of Thurman Munson), then going back to the playoffs in 1980, and back to the World Series in 1981. This team however, is on a decline, due to age and lack of talent (which makes them actually getting to the World Series this season nothing short of a miracle all its own). There is no one player available in all of baseball, that the Yankees can sign for next season (including Soto) that would take this team back to the World Series stage, let alone win it! It's very frustrating, to say the least! I think we’d be better off letting Soto walk and using that money to add 3-4 solid players. We have too many black holes in the lineup surrounding Soto snd Judge. I love Soto, but it’s a poor fit. Too much money tied up… We need help at 1B, arguably 2B, SS needs to hit. LF, CF with Judge going back to RF….and another solid starter, plus bullpen pieces… I agree with your comments 100% |
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Post by cocopugg on Oct 29, 2024 10:24:06 GMT -5
We can honestly say we saw this coming. The Yankees went through streaks when they looked great and some when they were the worst team in the league. Nobody saw this coming. The teams were in a statical tie for most categories and most expert predictions predicted 7. Plus most of the losses you are referring to came against terrible teams not good ones. I agree no one (the experts) ever saw this coming, because Jeter and ARod both picked the Yankees in 7 games. I bet today both feel like they have egg on their face for making such a prediction. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 29, 2024 10:26:34 GMT -5
Nobody saw this coming. The teams were in a statical tie for most categories and most expert predictions predicted 7. Plus most of the losses you are referring to came against terrible teams not good ones. I agree no one (the experts) ever saw this coming, because Jeter and ARod both picked the Yankees in 7 games. I bet today both feel like they have egg on their face for making such a prediction. I would make the same prediction 10 times out of 10 going into this series. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by cocopugg on Oct 29, 2024 10:27:47 GMT -5
I'm kinda surprised 3-0 hasn't happened more often. I get basketball usually the better team can out matchup the worse one and its likely they will take a game off to rest if they need it after going up 3-0. Hockey get it into OT and its one and done no matter who scores. Baseball though teams win 4 in a row during the season all the time and the more you see the bullpens in the series the better chance you have. I don't know what it is about hockey that gives teams at least a glimmer of hope of making the ultimate comeback. They play on ice, and the puck is very slippery. |
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Post by bumper on Oct 29, 2024 10:40:38 GMT -5
Sometimes you gotta tip your cap... but IT AINT OVAH TILL ITS OVAH! I'm going to tonights game so I'm hoping and praying for a win tonight!!! Getting swept and having them win on our field would be devastating... I won't be hanging around for that! LETS GO YANKEES!!! you've brought us good luck before. enjoy the game. |
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 29, 2024 11:08:00 GMT -5
This statement is ridiculous. They led the AL in offense is like 8 categories. What the Yankees achieved this year (and all their numbers) reflects just how poor the American League was compared to the National League in 2024. Or did you forget the Yankees going 0 and 4 against the Mets and 1-2 (at Yankee Stadium) against the Dodgers during the regular season? They were also 3-0 vs the Phillies and 2-1 against San Diego. Small sample sizes don't mean much. Some people are over analyzing this World Series. It's pretty much come down to two things: The Dodgers starting pitchers have been better and Freddie Freeman. |
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Post by cocopugg on Oct 29, 2024 11:18:17 GMT -5
What the Yankees achieved this year (and all their numbers) reflects just how poor the American League was compared to the National League in 2024. Or did you forget the Yankees going 0 and 4 against the Mets and 1-2 (at Yankee Stadium) against the Dodgers during the regular season? They were also 3-0 vs the Phillies and 2-1 against San Diego. Small sample sizes don't mean much. Some people are over analyzing this World Series. It's pretty much come down to two things: The Dodgers starting pitchers have been better and Freddie Freeman. Looking back, I see it as coming down to 1 thing...Bringing in Cortez to get the last 2 outs in game 1. Had Freeman struck out instead of hitting the grand slam, do we really think today we'd be looking at the Yankees about to lose this World Series? I think the Yankees would've (at the very least) taken 2 out of 3 here at home, needing only 1 more victory in L.A. to win the series. Yes, I look at Boone's odd decision of going to Cortez instead of Hill, as the turning point of this World Series, and definitely the reason Yankee bats have been pretty much silent ever since. We can't place enough credit on the emotional scars the results of one game can bring for the rest of a series, especially when it's on the biggest stage in baseball. |
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