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Post by rizzuto on Nov 4, 2024 12:12:12 GMT -5
I think they'll at least wait and see what DJ look like in spring training. Maybe an offseason of rest and rehab does him good? He MIGHT make a decent platoon piece to rest Jazz and partner up with Rice at first base. He’s sure not going to get much slower on the bases, because he almost fast walks them now. I could see him having a few fumes left in the tank, but I don’t want him holding back a young player…A lot depends on our winter moves… It doesn't get cold enough here to make a Winter move. In fact, the last two years I didn't even run the heater once. DJ is much colder than that. He still plays a serviceable third and first, but he has become a slog on the bases, and he isn't on them very often. |
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Post by inger on Nov 4, 2024 12:17:11 GMT -5
He MIGHT make a decent platoon piece to rest Jazz and partner up with Rice at first base. He’s sure not going to get much slower on the bases, because he almost fast walks them now. I could see him having a few fumes left in the tank, but I don’t want him holding back a young player…A lot depends on our winter moves… It doesn't get cold enough here to make a Winter move. In fact, the last two years I didn't even run the heater once. DJ is much colder than that. He still plays a serviceable third and first, but he has become a slog on the bases, and he isn't on them very often. I think he’ll go onto spring “in the best shape of his life”, determined to return to glory. He doesn’t want to finish his career with a season like 2024. We’ll see how that goes… |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Nov 4, 2024 12:18:43 GMT -5
Outfield/DH
LF Alex Verdugo (28) - .233/.291/.356/.647, 13 HR, 61 RBI, 2 SB - A steady bat throughout his career, Verdugo looked like he brought that bat to the Bronx over the first month or two of the season before his production fell off a cliff after he took some time off for the birth of a child. Was pretty bad over the last 2-3 months of the season and hit just .208 in the playoffs. He's a FA and won't be back as the Yanks appear ready to hand LF off to the Martian. Didn't have a good year overall, so no loss there. Grade: D
CF Aaron Judge (32) - .322/.458/.701/1.159, 58 HR, 144 RBI, 10 SB - This is where it gets complicated. Judge had an historic season and is the sure-fire AL MVP. After a terrible start to the season, from May until early September, he was an absolute machine. Additionally, he played a surprisingly good CF (WS gaffe aside). But this is where we need to discuss his problems in October. For as good as he was in the regular season, he was almost that bad in the playoffs. He did contribute 3 HR and 9 RBI in 14 games, which doesn't look that bad, but he had numerous terrible ABs with runners on base and of course had the inexplicable error that contributed to one of the worst Yankee meltdowns in October history in Game 5 of the WS. Given his October, I cannot give him the mark his regular season would seem to indicate. It's about the total picture. When the Yanks needed him the most, he came up short...again. Grade B
RF Juan Soto (25) - .288/.419/.569/.989, 41 HR, 109 RBI, 7 SB - Acquired in a blockbuster deal, Soto was everything advertised and more. Teamed with Judge to form one of the most prodigious duos in the Yankees long and storied history. Was a perfect fit and put up MVP caliber numbers all season. Unlike Judge, Soto showed up in October, too (.327/.469/.633/1.101). Adequate defensive RF. I'm personally hoping he's back long term, because he's a generational talent with a great personality. Grade: A
DH Giancarlo Stanton (34) - .233/.298/.475/.773, 27 HR, 72 RBI, 0 SB - Another complicated grade for the polar opposite reason from Judge. Still has immense power and his value to the lineup is obvious given how badly the Yankees scuffled when he was injured. Runs very hot and cold. Can go on tears, then disappear for weeks at a time. Might be the slowest base runner I've ever seen and doesn't play in the field. For all those negatives though, he once again came up HUGE in the playoffs smacking 7 HR and driving in 16 in 14 games. Without him in October, the Yanks probably don't get past the Division Series. I said during the postseason run that his play in October makes that contract worth it, and I still feel that way; his October play significantly bumps up his overall grade for me. Grade: B+
OF Trent Grisham (27) - .190/.290/.385/.675, 9 HR, 31 RBI, 1 SB - The Yanks were forced to absorb his contract to get the Soto deal done. Good defensive OF (2 gold gloves in SD), but he's a poor hitter as this was his third straight sub-Mendoza season and he's just a career .213 hitter. He's not going to ever be a difference maker, but if his role remains what it was in 2024, that's fine. Didn't see a single postseason AB, so that should tell you what they think of him as a hitter. Grade: C
LF Jasson Dominguez (21) - .179/.313/.304/.617, 2 HR, 4 RBI, 4 SB - Injuries limited "The Martian" in 2024, but he's the most touted prospect we've had in a few years. The Yanks top prospect played very well in the minors when he was healthy, but struggled a bit after his September promotion and was limited to pinch running in the playoffs. LF looks like it's his in 2025. Not enough to really go off of here for a grade. Grade: Incomplete
OF Jahmai Jones (26) - .238/.304/.381/.685, 1 HR, 4 RBI, 1 SB - Already a MLB journeyman at 26, Jones was another dumpster dive who occupied a spot on the Yanks roster most of the time through late July, but never really contributed much. Contract is up, so may be gone, or they may bring him back to play a AAAA role in the system. Grade: D
OF Taylor Trammell (26) - N/A, went 1-1 with a BB in 5 total appearances - Had a brief cup 'o coffee before being waived April 18 and was selected off waivers by the Dodgers. Grade: Incomplete
OF Duke Ellis (26) - N/A, went 1-1 with a SB in 3 total appearances after an August waiver grab from the Mariners. AAAA legend? Grade: Incomplete
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Nov 4, 2024 12:20:21 GMT -5
Middle Infield
2B Gleyber Torres (27) - .257/.330/.378/.709, 15 HR, 63 RBI, 4 SB - Got off to a horrible start to the season and it looked certain they Yanks would move on after the season until he started to come on after being moved to the leadoff spot over the last few weeks of the season. Was further effective leading off in the playoffs. Was still prone to frustrating miscues in the field including a big one that contributed to the Yanks meltdown in game 1 of the WS. Overall, it was not a great season offensively for him, his .709 OPS was the second worst of his career. Does the respectable offense he provides at 2B outweigh the defensive issues enough to bring him back? Personally, I feel it's best for both player and organization to move on, but that's obviously not my call. Grade: CSS Anthony Volpe (23) - .243/.293/.364/.657, 12 HR, 60 RBI, 28 SB - Saw a modest increase in BA from his rookie season, but both slugging and OPS dipped as he fell from 21 HR to 12. Provides a good SB threat with good speed and a good not great glove at SS. Though his BA did rise, I'm not sure I personally saw the progress at the plate I'd hoped for as he was still prone to horrific ABs and disappeared for long stretches. Did have a strong postseason (.286/.407/.408/.815) coming up big in some key spots (including a grand slam in game 4 to stave off elimination) which helps his overall grade. Is that the progress we hoped for? Either way, he's still young so there's time. Grade: B- Gleyber isn’t the answer I want at lead off. He has no speed, and I DO want to run in front of Judge, who can be prone to DP’s. (So can Soto if he stays). Anyway once again perhaps 1/2 point to generous with the grades, but otherwise pretty spot on. I still want to move Volpe to second. But he and Torres are not a good tandem in the center. Too many double play balls turn into single outs. Who to blame? I suspect Volpe’s feeds to be poor… I could see some feeling I was generous with Volpe, but I thought his October was enough to give him a little bump. |
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Post by inger on Nov 4, 2024 12:58:34 GMT -5
Gleyber isn’t the answer I want at lead off. He has no speed, and I DO want to run in front of Judge, who can be prone to DP’s. (So can Soto if he stays). Anyway once again perhaps 1/2 point to generous with the grades, but otherwise pretty spot on. I still want to move Volpe to second. But he and Torres are not a good tandem in the center. Too many double play balls turn into single outs. Who to blame? I suspect Volpe’s feeds to be poor… I think Volpe can still develop at SS. I also agree about the DP tandem, though I saw way more poor feeds from Torres than Volpe. What about moving Jazz to second base and getting a third baseman? At least by the numbers (metrics), it appears to me that Jazz is challenged at 2B. I like him where he is… |
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Post by inger on Nov 4, 2024 13:00:42 GMT -5
Gleyber isn’t the answer I want at lead off. He has no speed, and I DO want to run in front of Judge, who can be prone to DP’s. (So can Soto if he stays). Anyway once again perhaps 1/2 point to generous with the grades, but otherwise pretty spot on. I still want to move Volpe to second. But he and Torres are not a good tandem in the center. Too many double play balls turn into single outs. Who to blame? I suspect Volpe’s feeds to be poor… I could see some feeling I was generous with Volpe, but I thought his October was enough to give him a little bump. He either hits like Ty Cobb or disappears… I don’t get it… of course the Ty Cobb part is only 10% of the time… |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Nov 4, 2024 13:56:55 GMT -5
Starting Pitching
Gerritt Cole (33) - 17 GS, 8-5, 3.41, 1.126 WHIP - Didn't make his debut until June 19th due to injury. Overall, still pitched like an ace, though he wasn't as dominant as years past. Could that be age creeping in, or was it just the residuals of his injury? ERA/WHIP/and K's per 9 were still very good. Was excellent in 5 postseason starts, though he'd only get the one decision in the division series. Of course, the blunder with Rizzo in the 5th inning of Game 5 will haunt him. Was he as good as 2023 Cole? No. Did he still pitch like an Ace overall? I'd say yes. Hopefully he keeps pitching like one for the next couple years. Grade: B
Carlos Rodon (31) - 32 GS, 16-9, 3.96, 1.223 WHIP - Led the Yanks with 16 wins, and overall his numbers look pretty good; but he was still prone to some dreadful stretches where he looked more like a #4 or #5 than a #2 starter. Will he ever live up to that contract? I'm guessing not. He's a guy you just have to cross your fingers and hope you get "Good Carlos" and not "Bad Carlos" when he takes the mound. We got "Bad Carlos" twice in the postseason, though he was dominant to close out the Guardians in the LCS. His overall October wasn't great: 1-2, 5.60 ERA. He looks like a guy that's just gonna be a mixed bag. Grade: C
Nestor Cortes (29) - 30 GS, 9-10, 3.77, 1.153 WHIP - Similar story to Rodon, consistency is the issue. One start you get "Nasty Nestor", the next he can't get out of the 3rd inning. His overall numbers look solid, but needs to be more even. His splits are all over the place. Gave up the decisive HR to Freeman in Game 1 of the series, but I have a hard time putting too much blame on him given he hadn't pitched in a month and Boone plopped him in an extremely high-leverage situation with the game on the line. Grade: C
Marcus Stroman (33) - 29 GS, 10-9, 4.31, 1.468 WHIP - For much of the first half of the season, Stroman was a serviceable, even good SP as he went into July with a very solid 3.29 ERA. From there though, the wheels quickly came off. Pitches to far too much contact and his OBA was horrifying over the last 2 months. By September, he was pretty much unusable and that was evident by the Yanks avoiding him like the plague in October. Who knows what to expect or how they'll use him in 2025. Another bad contract by Cashman. Grade: D-
Luis Gil (26) - 29 GS, 15-7, 3.50 ERA, 1.193 - Overall, can't complain much about Gil. Second on the club with 15 wins, went long stretches where he was unhittable and absolutely dominant. But also had some bad stretches where his command issues really stood out. Wasn't good in October, but you have to wonder how much fatigue had set in by that point. Has the stuff, just needs to learn how to harness it. Given expectations, it was a really good showing by Gil in 2024. Grade: B+
Clarke Schmidt (28) - 16 GS, 5-5, 2.85 ERA, 1.184 WHIP - Schmidt was a revelation over the first 2 months of the season before an injury shelved him for 3+ months. His numbers came back to earth some after he returned, and he scuffled a bit in October. Overall, he appeared to progress a good bit in 2024, and if they can get him to settle in somewhere between his 2023 and 2024 numbers, he should remain a solid back of the rotation guy. Grade: B
Cody Poteet (29) - 4 GS, 3-0, 2.22 ERA, 1.068 - Poteet appeared to be a shrewd dumpster dive after he was forced into the rotation because of injuries, but was then cut down by injuries himself. Those numbers were way more than likely unsustainable, but given who he is and how he performed, he was a very nice surprise for a short time. Grade: A-
Will Warren (25) - 5 GS, 0-3, 10.32 ERA, 1.897 WHIP - Warren is a 25 year old marginal MLB prospect who was forced into service because of injuries and other roster machinations. When he was called upon, he looked completely overwhelmed by ML hitters and his numbers show it. Looked rough overall in Scranton, too. Probably will never be a regular MLB starter, but might be a guy that gets called upon for the odd start here and there. But his first ML experience was objectively a very bad one. Grade: F
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Post by cocopugg on Nov 4, 2024 14:56:51 GMT -5
Soto=B+, Aaron Judge=A, Stanton=B-. Numbers don't lie, regardless of post-season failures. Soto doesn't deserve a higher rating than Judge, because Judge's Hall of Fame numbers were better than Soto's in just about every category, over the course of this season? And Stanton being a DH (glorified pinch hitter) should be happy to get a B- considering the limited role he plays by sitting on the bench during every game...even if he's TRYING to be the Yankees' 21st century Mr. October, he's not playing the outfield, so he's still just a part time player. I guess that's why I wouldn't be voting for Ohtani as the NL MVP this season, when Francisco Lindor actually had to do some work before he put up all of his numbers.
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Post by qimqam on Nov 4, 2024 15:13:35 GMT -5
Soto=B+, Aaron Judge=A, Stanton=B-. Numbers don't lie, regardless of post-season failures. Soto doesn't deserve a higher rating than Judge, because Judge's Hall of Fame numbers were better than Soto's in just about every category, over the course of this season? And Stanton being a DH (glorified pinch hitter) should be happy to get a B- considering the limited role he plays by sitting on the bench during every game...even if he's TRYING to be the Yankees' 21st century Mr. October, he's not playing the outfield, so he's still just a part time player. I guess that's why I wouldn't be voting for Ohtani as the NL MVP this season, when Francisco Lindor actually had to do some work before he put up all of his numbers. Much better I was just about to comment on Stanton having a better year than Judge ... that sacrilege |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Nov 4, 2024 15:46:51 GMT -5
BULLPEN
Clay Holmes (31) - 67 G, 3.14 ERA, 1.302 WHIP, 30 SV - Was pretty damn good through early June, but completely came unglued as a closer after that. Converted a dreadful 30/43 save opportunities, blowing an insane 13 saves before finally losing the job in September. Was much better in a 7th/8th inning role after that and got some big outs in October in the same role. He's a FA, will the Yanks bring him back as a set-up guy? I think he could be useful in that role. As a closer? Absolutely not. Grade: D
Luke Weaver (30) - 62 G, 2.89 ERA, 0.929 WHIP, 4 SV - Former starter really seemed to excel once handed the closer role in September. "Blew" a couple of saves in October, but was largely effective overall. Seemed to have the demeanor to do the job. Do the Yanks feel good enough about what he showed to let him close in 2025? Given the expectations, a very good return from Weaver in 2024. Grade: B+
Michael Tonkin (34) - 39 G, 3.38 ERA, 1.161 WHIP, 2 SV - Was a surprisingly effective April dumpster dive for couple of months until he went off the tracks in July and was waived in August. Given the expectations, overall have to appreciate the couple of solid months they got out of him. Grade: B-
Tommy Kahnle (34) - 50 G, 2.11 ERA, 1.148 WHIP, 1 SV - Followed up a solid 2023 with another pretty good showing in 2024. Was mostly effective in MR, though showed an over reliance on off speed pitches. His solid regular season was dinged a bit with a shaky October. A FA, I wouldn't mind seeing him back in 2025. Grade: B
Caleb Ferguson (27) - 42 G, 5.13 ERA, 1.500 WHIP, 1 SV - Acquired from the Dodgers in February for some minor league JAGs, Ferguson was largely ineffective before being dealt to Houston in July for...a minor league JAG and "future considerations" (that guy always sucks). His tenure wasn't a good one. Grade: D-
Tim Hill (34) - 35 G, 2.05 ERA, 1.023 WHIP - a June dumpster dive after being cut by the White Sox (!), Hill ended up being a shrewd pickup and after a shaky start, became one of our most reliable BP arms. Cannot complain about much here. Grade: A
Jake Cousins (29) - 37 G, 2.37 ERA, 1.053 WHIP - 1 SV - Another guy plucked off the scrap heap, Cousins was pretty effective during the regular season, but had an erratic October, marring his overall grade. Grade: C
Ian Hamilton (29) - 35 G, 3.82 ERA, 1.354 WHIP, 1 SV - Expected to be a key piece to this season's BP, Hamilton had trouble staying healthy, and was inconsistent when he was on the roster. Used twice in October, he shut down KC in one appearance, then had a poor outing against the Guardians. Given expectations, a disappointing 2024 for Hamilton. Grade: C-
Dennis Santana (28) - 23 G, 6.26 ERA, 1.354 WHIP, 2 SV - A blight on the BP in May and early June, ended up getting released as he inflicted too much damage and was picked up by the Pirates where he was actually quite effective the rest of the season. His Yankees tenure was a bad one. Grade: F
Victor Gonzalez (28) - 27 G, 3.86 ERA, 1.114 WHIP, 2 SV - Acquired last December from the Dodgers for a JAG, was supposed to be a decent left handed arm, but battled injury and ineffectiveness last pitching in mid-June before a September release. Grade: D
Rod Marinaccio (28) - 16 G, 3.86 ERA, 1.200 WHIP - Pitched pretty well early in the season, then was sent down where he performed well in Scranton. A lot of us were calling for him to be brought back as the bullpen was imploding in July and August and the Yanks obliged, but he got rocked in a couple of September appearances and was waived. Grade: C
Mark Leiter, Jr. (33) - 21 G, 4.98 ERA, 1.708 WHIP - Cashman's deadline answer to their ongoing bullpen woes, he supposedly brought "swing and miss" stuff, but he proved to be a gas can, getting regularly rocked eventually falling out of favor in early September. Boone started going to him again as the season began to wind down and he wound up being rather effective over the last two weeks and into October. Grade: C
Tim Mayza (32) - 15 G, 4.00 ERA, 1.167 WHIP - A July dumpster dive after he was absolutely horrific and waived by Toronto, he started badly in the Bronx before actually being somewhat effective over the last couple of weeks of the season and in limited October work. Grade: B-
Yeondrys Gomez (24) - 5 G, 3.97 ERA, 1.588 WHIP - Had just a brief stint with the Yanks, spending most of the season in Scranton's starting rotation. Grade: Incomplete
Nick Burdi (31) - 12 G, 1.86 ERA, 1.448 WHIP - Injured most of the season, but relatively effective when he was available. Grade: B
Phil Bickford (28) - 8 G, 8.64 ERA, 1.320 WHIP - A midseason dumpster dive, caused more fires than he put out when he was on the roster. Grade: F
Josh Maciejewski (28) - 4 G, 2.57 ERA, 0.857 WHIP - Had 3 short stints on the Yanks roster making just 4 appearances, holding the opposition scoreless in his first three before getting knocked in his last outing against Tampa Bay at the end of a drubbing to the Rays on July 20. Spent most of the season in Scranton's starting rotation where he wasn't very good. Not much to go off of here. Grade: Incomplete
Jonathan Loaisiga (29) - 3 G, 0.00 ERA, 2.000 WHIP - An injury ended his season before it really got started. Grade: Incomplete
Enyel De Los Santos (28) - 5 G, 14.21 ERA, 2.526 WHIP - Cashman's other deadline move to reinforce a struggling BP, De los Santos proved to be an unmitigated disaster allowing 13 hits and walking 3 in just 5 appearances before the Yanks saw enough and mercifully waived him. Was picked up by the White Sox where he pitched "okay" through the rest of the year. Grade: F-
Clayton Beeter (25) - 3 G, 4.91 ERA, 1.364 WHIP - We actually got this guy from the Dodgers for Joey freaking Gallo back in 2022. Was injured most of the year, getting just a brief stint on the Yankees roster. Not much to go off of here. Grade: Incomplete
Scott Effross (30) - 3 G, 5.40 ERA, 1.500 WHIP - Was solid back in 2022, but has battled injuries since. Had just a brief cup 'o coffee with the Yanks, pitching mostly in Scranton in 2024. Grade: Incomplete
Anthony Misiewicz (29) - 1 G, 0.00 ERA, 3.000 WHIP - Career AAAA arm, got just one appearance for the Yanks. Was "meh" in Scranton. Grade: Incomplete
Clayton Andrews (27) - 1 G, 27.00 ERA, 3.000 WHIP - Ineffective in his solitary appearance with the big club in 2024. Looks like a AAAA arm. Grade: Incomplete
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Nov 4, 2024 15:48:59 GMT -5
Soto=B+, Aaron Judge=A, Stanton=B-. Numbers don't lie, regardless of post-season failures. Soto doesn't deserve a higher rating than Judge, because Judge's Hall of Fame numbers were better than Soto's in just about every category, over the course of this season? And Stanton being a DH (glorified pinch hitter) should be happy to get a B- considering the limited role he plays by sitting on the bench during every game...even if he's TRYING to be the Yankees' 21st century Mr. October, he's not playing the outfield, so he's still just a part time player. I guess that's why I wouldn't be voting for Ohtani as the NL MVP this season, when Francisco Lindor actually had to do some work before he put up all of his numbers. That's fair, and everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'd say look at my grading as if it's on a curve. Relative expectations, Stanton exceeded Judge given the expectations placed on Judge for me. The postseason failures by Judge vs. Stanton's heroics tilted to Stanton having a better season relative expectation. In a vacuum, clearly Judge is better, but that's not how I graded. I expected that to be controversial. |
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Post by ill636 on Nov 4, 2024 15:54:17 GMT -5
Soto=B+, Aaron Judge=A, Stanton=B-. Numbers don't lie, regardless of post-season failures. Soto doesn't deserve a higher rating than Judge, because Judge's Hall of Fame numbers were better than Soto's in just about every category, over the course of this season? And Stanton being a DH (glorified pinch hitter) should be happy to get a B- considering the limited role he plays by sitting on the bench during every game...even if he's TRYING to be the Yankees' 21st century Mr. October, he's not playing the outfield, so he's still just a part time player. I guess that's why I wouldn't be voting for Ohtani as the NL MVP this season, when Francisco Lindor actually had to do some work before he put up all of his numbers. Despite the stupid error in game 5, Judge was an outstanding CFer. Soto is average at best in RF. Hitting goes to Judge with Soto a close second. A for Judge, B+ for Soto. I wouldn't grade Stanton since I still didn't know which Stanton would ever show up. |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Nov 4, 2024 15:55:16 GMT -5
Manager/Coaching
Aaron Boone - I've long said that the Yankees cannot/will not win a WS with Aaron Boone leading them. For what feels like the umpteenth year in a row, the Yankees ran off to a fast start followed by a deep swoon midseason. Then finished pretty strong. a 94 win season and pennant is nothing to sneeze at, but the same frustrations remain there with Boone as skipper. The team makes myriad fundamental mistakes. The baserunning is brain dead too much. He makes baffling bullpen decisions. Accountability seems to be lacking. He sticks with guys too long in certain roles out of misplaced loyalty. He deserves some credit for righting the ship after a dreadful 2 months midseason and taking a deeply flawed team to the Fall Classic, but overall, he's lacking in too many key areas. He'll be back in 2025, unfortunately, so we have to just hope for the best. Grade: C
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Nov 4, 2024 16:03:21 GMT -5
That's it. Feel free to pick away as I know how I graded will be "controversial" for some, but hey, this is just one dummy on the internet.  |
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Post by bumper on Nov 4, 2024 16:40:31 GMT -5
good work donnie. my minor quibbles ...
probably go c+ on wells. was very good for the middle part of the season and fell into a huge black hole in sept barely clinging to the interstate hitting .111. did have a couple big hits in the PS but again barely on the interstate hitting .120 w a 40% K rate. think pitchers have figured out his holes. nevertheless, he's our catcher moving forward. say bye jose. actually like the idea of bringing higgy back to form the platoon.
maybe i go c+ on gleyber. did a very good job at lead-off and had a decent PS. over last 2 months very solid .306 w .375 obp. saw lots of pitches which helped soto & judge. lowered k rate. however best for all parties to move on.
volpe overall disappointment but showed signs of some growth. still only 23, think next year we see what we really have.
guess the PS was a big-time fail for judge. something he needs to figure out. but overall can't give him lower than a-. nearly a triple crown season.
maybe a little high on stanton but definitely had a comeback season and think that maybe he found an intensity and focus in the PS that might serve him well next season. he was locked in. facing the best pitching, hit 7 HR in 66 PA w only an 18% K rate was amazing.
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