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Post by greatfatness on Feb 4, 2019 11:16:55 GMT -5
This was fun www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJjiIuH1VnYDirected by Peter Berg, “The 100-Year Game” features 44 of the greatest NFL athletes, past and present. In order of appearance: Roger Goodell, Dick Butkus, Joe Greene, Aaron Donald, Peyton Manning, Orlando Pace, Alvin Kamara, Drew Brees, Michael Strahan, Rob Gronkowski, Brian Urlacher, Tyler Blevins (Ninja), JuJu Smith-Schuster, Marshawn Lynch, Beth Mowins, Eli Manning, Ndamukong Suh, Mike Singletary, Christian McCaffrey, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Michael Irvin, Deion Sanders, Larry Little, Paul Warfield, Larry Csonka, Todd Gurley, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, LaDainian Tomlinson, Larry Fitzgerald, Ed Reed, Jim Brown, Baker Mayfield, Tom Brady, Terry Bradshaw, Patrick Peterson, Odell Beckham Jr., Derwin James, Jalen Ramsey, Franco Harris, Russell Wilson, Patrick Mahomes, Sarah Thomas, Ron Torbert, Tony Gonzalez, Von Miller, Richard Sherman, and Saquon Barkley. |
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Feb 4, 2019 11:25:55 GMT -5
GREAT SUPER BOWL--BRADY is GREAT!!! This was certainly not a great Super Bowl. |
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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2019 12:41:52 GMT -5
GREAT SUPER BOWL--BRADY is GREAT!!! This was certainly not a great Super Bowl. IDK. I don’t watch every year, but since I was feeling lazy and the wind was blowing about 30-40 MPH outdoors, I plopped myself in my recliner and watched. I’m not always about wanting to see a lot of high-flying scoring, so the defensive aspects of the game were sort of refreshing, and even though the Pats completely owned the 1st half other than the interception Brady threw the game wasn’t decided until the last couple of minutes. Twerent all that bad in my view... |
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Feb 4, 2019 13:21:12 GMT -5
This was certainly not a great Super Bowl. IDK. I don’t watch every year, but since I was feeling lazy and the wind was blowing about 30-40 MPH outdoors, I plopped myself in my recliner and watched. I’m not always about wanting to see a lot of high-flying scoring, so the defensive aspects of the game were sort of refreshing, and even though the Pats completely owned the 1st half other than the interception Brady threw the game wasn’t decided until the last couple of minutes. Twerent all that bad in my view... Im fine with a defensive battle but there was very little compelling about that game. It was much less defensive dominance than it was just poor boring play overall. When you have a team that goes punt-punt-punt-punt-punt-punt-FG-punt-int-missed FG (or something like that) its just not "great." |
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Post by domeplease on Feb 5, 2019 10:43:42 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Feb 5, 2019 10:53:15 GMT -5
Wildly premature speculation... |
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Post by domeplease on Feb 16, 2019 8:04:04 GMT -5
www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/three-takeaways-from-colin-kaepernick-eric-reid-vs-nfl-collusion-settlement/ar-BBTEnHn?ocid=U147DHP The bombshell announcement Friday that Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid have settled their collusion against the NFL came out of the blue.
So what does it mean?
It's very early to try and divine the deepest answers to that question. But let's start with three quick takeaways from the news:
1. The timing was no accident.
First, it's not a surprise it happened on a Friday in mid-February and the same weekend as the NBA's All-Star Game (seems like there were some things going on in Washington, too, but we'll stick to sports … sort of.) Classic late-week news dump.
More to the point, though, the final hearing in Kaepernick and Reid's joint collusion case versus the league was set to take place this month before arbitrator Stephen Burbank.
The clock was ticking for the league not to be exposed to what appeared to have grown to overwhelming evidence that Kaepernick had been blackballed if not by the league at large then by owners who'd continually passed on signing him.
2. This had to be very expensive for the NFL.
Two things to consider: First, what would Kaepernick's earning capacity been in the seasons he hasn't played. He had quarterbacked a team to the Super Bowl and before his protests had proved to be a dynamic dual-threat quarterback, the kind the NFL has suddenly become enamored of again.
For context, in his six seasons with the 49ers, he made more than $43 million, according to Spotrac.
Second, Kaepernick previously had said he would consider withdrawing the case only if a lucrative settlement were secured, Yahoo Sports reported, citing unidentified sources.
Add those two things together — maybe toss in The Associated Press report that Kaepernick asked for $20 million to play in the nascent AAF — and you come up with a very big number, something social media quickly grasped.
As the NFLPA noted in its statement, following Friday's bombshell announcement, "We are glad that Eric has earned a job and a new contract, and we continue to hope that Colin gets his opportunity as well."
Reid has made a new way for himself with the Panthers, getting his foot in the door and proving his value. Thus far, Kaepernick hasn't gotten a shot (reports of offers were overblown at best, disingenuous at worst).
The quarterbacks who have gotten roster shots while Kaepernick, 31, hasn't have been well-chronicled.
So let's look at the numbers again: In six seasons, he completed 1,011 of 1,692 passes for 12,271 and 72 touchdowns with 30 interceptions. Pick most any backup quarterback in the league (at least ones not named Nick Foles), and you'll be hard pressed to find better.
The collusion case has been closed and much of the outrage has subsided (note the reaction to the Colorado store going out of business because of the Kaepernick-Nike decision it made), but it may be a stretch to think that some NFL team will see enough cover to at least take a chance.
Still, if there's a time over the past three-odd years, then this is it.
If the NFL truly is a meritocracy and Kaepernick and the league have settled their collusion case, then the time is right.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 8:27:33 GMT -5
You are correct, Dome. Collin should have been on a short list of QBs who could have mustered out a few seasons as a backup somewhere. The problem is that the skill set that made him valuable in the first place- his running ability and short pass accuracy are not viable any longer due to his injuries and the ability of defenses to contain him. In short, his only hope is to latch on to a team with a very good offensive line and tight ends that are mobile and good blocking backs. Not many teams are going to build their offenses around a BU that is that needy. I totally support his cause, but his talent not so much.
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Post by domeplease on Feb 16, 2019 8:35:21 GMT -5
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 16, 2019 10:49:48 GMT -5
You are correct, Dome. Collin should have been on a short list of QBs who could have mustered out a few seasons as a backup somewhere. The problem is that the skill set that made him valuable in the first place- his running ability and short pass accuracy are not viable any longer due to his injuries and the ability of defenses to contain him. In short, his only hope is to latch on to a team with a very good offensive line and tight ends that are mobile and good blocking backs. Not many teams are going to build their offenses around a BU that is that needy. I totally support his cause, but his talent not so much. That's what some people don't get about Kaepernick , if he was a great QB, some coaches would put up with all the distractions that he brings to the table. A guy with a back up skill set, not so much. Head coaches hate distractions and Kap would be a huge one, he just not good enough to put up with it all. |
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Post by inger on Feb 16, 2019 11:28:36 GMT -5
You are correct, Dome. Collin should have been on a short list of QBs who could have mustered out a few seasons as a backup somewhere. The problem is that the skill set that made him valuable in the first place- his running ability and short pass accuracy are not viable any longer due to his injuries and the ability of defenses to contain him. In short, his only hope is to latch on to a team with a very good offensive line and tight ends that are mobile and good blocking backs. Not many teams are going to build their offenses around a BU that is that needy. I totally support his cause, but his talent not so much. That's what some people don't get about Kaepernick , if he was a great QB, some coaches would put up with all the distractions that he brings to the table. A guy with a back up skill set, not so much. Head coaches hate distractions and Kap would be a huge one, he just not good enough to put up with it all. Right. The legal case was built around the numbers he had put up in the past, it seems. Look at free agency in MLB to see how little those numbers are now valued in sports. Kap is a human being, and whether or not you support his causes, they come along with him, and the distractions follow. The locker room can become divided, and some fans will decide to abandon the team, while others will support regardless. Haters may do something endangering the team or it’s fans. It’s justifiable to pass on employing him as a QB at this point, and likely was three years ago... |
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 16, 2019 13:12:19 GMT -5
You are correct, Dome. Collin should have been on a short list of QBs who could have mustered out a few seasons as a backup somewhere. The problem is that the skill set that made him valuable in the first place- his running ability and short pass accuracy are not viable any longer due to his injuries and the ability of defenses to contain him. In short, his only hope is to latch on to a team with a very good offensive line and tight ends that are mobile and good blocking backs. Not many teams are going to build their offenses around a BU that is that needy. I totally support his cause, but his talent not so much. That's what some people don't get about Kaepernick , if he was a great QB, some coaches would put up with all the distractions that he brings to the table. A guy with a back up skill set, not so much. Head coaches hate distractions and Kap would be a huge one, he just not good enough to put up with it all. The collusion wasn’t conducted by coaches it was conducted by ownership. For what it is worth, Elway wanted him on the Broncos they just couldn’t agree on price. That was disclosed in depositions and later disclosed by Elway himself. |
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 16, 2019 13:14:36 GMT -5
That's what some people don't get about Kaepernick , if he was a great QB, some coaches would put up with all the distractions that he brings to the table. A guy with a back up skill set, not so much. Head coaches hate distractions and Kap would be a huge one, he just not good enough to put up with it all. Right. The legal case was built around the numbers he had put up in the past, it seems. Look at free agency in MLB to see how little those numbers are now valued in sports. Kap is a human being, and whether or not you support his causes, they come along with him, and the distractions follow. The locker room can become divided, and some fans will decide to abandon the team, while others will support regardless. Haters may do something endangering the team or it’s fans. It’s justifiable to pass on employing him as a QB at this point, and likely was three years ago... The legal case would have had nothing to do with his numbers until they got to damages. But if he got $60-80m as has been reported then his counsel clearly found plenty of bad evidence in the NFL’s files and depositions. Which isn’t surprising at all. |
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Post by inger on Feb 16, 2019 21:28:50 GMT -5
Right. The legal case was built around the numbers he had put up in the past, it seems. Look at free agency in MLB to see how little those numbers are now valued in sports. Kap is a human being, and whether or not you support his causes, they come along with him, and the distractions follow. The locker room can become divided, and some fans will decide to abandon the team, while others will support regardless. Haters may do something endangering the team or it’s fans. It’s justifiable to pass on employing him as a QB at this point, and likely was three years ago... The legal case would have had nothing to do with his numbers until they got to damages. But if he got $60-80m as has been reported then his counsel clearly found plenty of bad evidence in the NFL’s files and depositions. Which isn’t surprising at all. Thanks, GF. Good to have a professional take on these goings on... I’ve sort of just become neutral about the entire “thing”. We don’t see the level of patriotism we used to see in the USA, and we’ve truly failed to create a complete brotherhood of man. We’re still too stupidly concerned about skin color, political stance, and religion that I’ve already said too much without switching gears to the political thread...So I’m stopping here... |
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 17, 2019 12:55:33 GMT -5
The legal case would have had nothing to do with his numbers until they got to damages. But if he got $60-80m as has been reported then his counsel clearly found plenty of bad evidence in the NFL’s files and depositions. Which isn’t surprising at all. Thanks, GF. Good to have a professional take on these goings on... I’ve sort of just become neutral about the entire “thing”. We don’t see the level of patriotism we used to see in the USA, and we’ve truly failed to create a complete brotherhood of man. We’re still too stupidly concerned about skin color, political stance, and religion that I’ve already said too much without switching gears to the political thread...So I’m stopping here... I've successfully avoided the politics thread so far, so I won't wander into it now. |
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