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Post by chiyankee on Dec 22, 2017 22:12:15 GMT -5
Word on Cole is that the Yanks are offering Frazier and another piece, perhaps Acevedo...Appears Pittsburgh wants to move Cole, so if not to NY, he lands somewhere... All kinds of rumors. Latest one that I’m aware of involves Frazier,Andujar and Adams. Yanks will regret moving Andujar. Wow, that's a lot for a pitcher that's been trending downward the past two seasons. |
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Post by inger on Dec 22, 2017 22:44:35 GMT -5
That's a good reason that the trade may not ever come to fruition. The Pirates will continue to attempt to get a great payback, and the Yankees will wait to see if either the price drops, or if another pitcher becomes available...Isn't odd how the trades that get exposed in the press often die, and another trade will come together in clandestine fashion and seem to materialize overnight???
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Post by inger on Dec 22, 2017 23:06:15 GMT -5
I haven't read anything about anyone talking to free agent pitcher Tyler Chatwood (RHSP). The name is sort of bland, and he's been pitching for the Rockies for several seasons. Last season his 15 losses and 4.69 ERA weren't sexy at all, but in his career he's had an ERA of about 5.00 at home (mostly that's been at Coors) and 3.22 on the road. He's only going to be 28 this season. Looking at the other alternatives for depth, along with their prices, Chatwood may not be the worst of the lot. For one thing, he could be slotted in as the sixth starter without fanfare...He's never worked more than 158 MLB innings in one season...He's worked in relief as well, though not very effectively...We could say that at the very least, should there be a need for a pitcher to become expendable...he would be the one to go...But if we have an injury or someone is ineffective...he could come in quite handy...I think that would really be a big boost as we assure that the young pitchers are getting enough time in AAA, as well as give the Yankees time to assure that everyone in the starting 5 appears to be healthy...
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Post by sierchio on Dec 23, 2017 10:28:34 GMT -5
WE do NOT need or WANT Cole. He will just turn out to be another Garcia...how did that workout? WE have good if not great pitchers in our Farm System: Want another pitcher = Call one of our Prospects up. Someone has being doing Peyote; if they are thinking about trading TORRES. Tell the Pirates to go jump in the Three Rivers. Ah, crap = There goes my blood pressure!!! Tequila: "Do you have a WILL?" I agree with ya there buddy.. Go into the year with the starting 5 we already have... Obviously , eventually , injuries and ineffectiveness will wreak havoc on the rotation. That's when I would use a AAA starter as the depth.. and by the trade dead line, if you feel a starting pitcher will improve your team, trade for one then... even if it's a Jamie Garcia type to eat innings (sorry DoMe, I know you won't agree with that)... but you gotta give Monty another shot at the rotation.. to see what he's got after last year. He EARNED that much. And any pitcher you pick up will effectively kick him out of the rotation. You bring up a Sheffield/Adams/German when injuries/ineffectiveness do eventually come.. and go from there. Then again, this is the man that was pissed off the Yankees signed Andy Pettitte all those years ago because he thought it would kick Joba/Hughes/IPK out of the rotation... and I wanted to see what they had... so maybe I just don't know how to run a baseball team... and should just "In Ca$h We Tru$t" |
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Post by do me please on Dec 23, 2017 12:57:56 GMT -5
“Tequila, they are now talking about trading Adams (P--23 years old— He went 11-5 with a 2.89 ERA and 1.08 WHIP in 115 1/3 innings over 21 starts, in 2017 at AAA)
AND:
Andujar (3B with a good arm--23 years old—in 2017 he hit .315/.352/.498 between AA & AAA in 2017.) Along with one of our favorites:
Frazier LF only 24-years old and full of energy & a great attitude.
Guess WHAT we get in return:
An Almost Retread Cole P—who last year (you are not going to believe this)… went 12-12 with a 4.26 ERA in 33 starts in 2017 AND:
Who in 2016 went 7-10 season with a 3.88 ERA in 21 starts. His average ERA over the last two seasons is 4.07.
PLUS, we get Harrison a Utility type player INF/OF and again, a almost Retread, who is 30 years old and last year hit .272 with only 47 RBI.”
Tequila: “YOU SAID WHAT?”
“But it gets better (so to speak): The two almost Retreads we get, are not cheap (payroll) while Adams, Andujar and Frazier were being paid peanuts (cheap payroll).
What do you think Tequila?”
Tequila: “Bring me your Katana, NOW…for I will die with HONOR!”
“The Katana is ten times your size; you cannot even pick it up…”
Tequila: “Do not insult me Grasshopper for I have a Grey Belt…this is NOT a good day.”
“You don’t have a Grey Belt.”
“Am I not an African Grey…?’’
“This what I get for asking a Parrot for her opinion…”
Tequila: “Where is my breakfast?”
“It is coming Samurai Warrior.”
*** Maybe Cash wants Cole because his daughter likes him? It has to be something that eludes us…for it is not for his recent Pitching Record. Go figure, for WE, cannot.
Cole is not worth Frazier, Chance & Andujar, not even on a 'Cold Day in Hell'.
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 23, 2017 13:13:22 GMT -5
I haven't read anything about anyone talking to free agent pitcher Tyler Chatwood (RHSP). The name is sort of bland, and he's been pitching for the Rockies for several seasons. Last season his 15 losses and 4.69 ERA weren't sexy at all, but in his career he's had an ERA of about 5.00 at home (mostly that's been at Coors) and 3.22 on the road. He's only going to be 28 this season. Looking at the other alternatives for depth, along with their prices, Chatwood may not be the worst of the lot. For one thing, he could be slotted in as the sixth starter without fanfare...He's never worked more than 158 MLB innings in one season...He's worked in relief as well, though not very effectively...We could say that at the very least, should there be a need for a pitcher to become expendable...he would be the one to go...But if we have an injury or someone is ineffective...he could come in quite handy...I think that would really be a big boost as we assure that the young pitchers are getting enough time in AAA, as well as give the Yankees time to assure that everyone in the starting 5 appears to be healthy... Chatwood signed with the Cubs, he's staying the National League. |
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Post by inger on Dec 23, 2017 16:14:06 GMT -5
I haven't read anything about anyone talking to free agent pitcher Tyler Chatwood (RHSP). The name is sort of bland, and he's been pitching for the Rockies for several seasons. Last season his 15 losses and 4.69 ERA weren't sexy at all, but in his career he's had an ERA of about 5.00 at home (mostly that's been at Coors) and 3.22 on the road. He's only going to be 28 this season. Looking at the other alternatives for depth, along with their prices, Chatwood may not be the worst of the lot. For one thing, he could be slotted in as the sixth starter without fanfare...He's never worked more than 158 MLB innings in one season...He's worked in relief as well, though not very effectively...We could say that at the very least, should there be a need for a pitcher to become expendable...he would be the one to go...But if we have an injury or someone is ineffective...he could come in quite handy...I think that would really be a big boost as we assure that the young pitchers are getting enough time in AAA, as well as give the Yankees time to assure that everyone in the starting 5 appears to be healthy... Chatwood signed with the Cubs, he's staying the National League. Thanks. I just learned that today. I thought he was still floating around... |
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Post by sierchio on Dec 23, 2017 19:59:04 GMT -5
I don't think it's Frazier, Chance AND Andujar.... I think it's more than likely Frazier and Chance or Andujar... which I still think would be a mistake. I can see trading Frazier since he's essentially blocked... I still wouldn't do it for Cole though... We could use Andujar at 3rd this season and would like to see him try to win the job. Chance might have a good record in AAA but I don't think he's a ML.. maybe a bullpen piece.. ala Warren.. but not gonna pitch to a 2.89 ERA in the bigs...
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Post by inger on Dec 24, 2017 0:46:37 GMT -5
I can imagine the ASK being Frazier, Chance and Andujar. Then I can see it winding up as Frazier and one or the other, or if the Pirates insist on Chance and Andujar, perhaps then they wouldn't get Frazier as the headliner...Until the trade is made, it's nothing for nothing...
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Post by sierchio on Dec 25, 2017 10:48:59 GMT -5
I hope it stays nothing for nothing. In fact, I don't want the Yankees to get another SP at all!!
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Post by do me pleas on Dec 29, 2017 11:11:37 GMT -5
GOOD!! WE think, that for now the Cole deal is off the table.
Instead, WHY don't the Yankees trade with Jeter (Marlins) for J.T. Realmuto a catcher...
A damn good catcher:
"Realmuto, the 27-year-old catcher, is entering his first year of arbitration eligibility this offseason and is projected to earn $4.2 million next year. In 141 games in 2017, Realmuto posted a .278/.332/.451 slash line with 17 home runs and eight stolen bases." AND he is only 27-years old & CHEAP!!!
Move Sanchez to DH & back-up catcher; bring up Andujar and TRADE Romine along with Ellsbury.
Jeter is also trying to dump Castro...so why not a package of Realmuto & Castro for some NOT KEY Prospects of ours.
Use Torres & Torreys as INF Backup.
Hell, Trade Gardner (while the getting is good --we get something decent in return--Prospects) = Replenish our Farm System and call up Floria.
Now that is a great New Year's Package.
Tequila is dancing to this...
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Post by inger on Dec 29, 2017 14:13:15 GMT -5
We don't need Realmuto, not at all. You would lock up the DH position with Sanchez, who is doing fine as a catcher and two years younger than Realmuto. So, here's a tale of the tape from 2017, so to speak:
Sanchez .278/.345/.544 HR 33 RBI 90 SB allowed 37 CS 23 PCT. 38% PB 16 WP 53 Assists 60 Errors 13 DP 4
Realmuto .278/.332/.451 HR 17 RBI 65 SB allowed 53 CS 25 PCT. 32% PB 7 WP 44 Assists 87 Errors 6 DP 11
*Realmuto appeared in 125 games at catcher, 1,095 innings, Sanchez appeared in 99 games at catcher 881 innings
Age 24 season for Realmuto
Realmuto .259/.290/.406 HR 10 RBI 47 SB allowed 43 CS 16 PCT. 27% PB 11 WP 33 Assists 46 Errors 6 DP 6
As a prospect hound, you surely should understand that a 24 year old catcher is not as prepared to perform at the top level in the game as a 26 year old, and you should be able to see that most of what we can perceive as a few extra bases allowed by Sanchez via a few extra PB and errors are going to be compensated for by his extreme skill at throwing out runners on SB attempts. This is not meant to demean Realmuto in any way, as he does appear to be more polished behind the plate, you are talking about a player with a 104 career OPS+ vs another with a career 138 OPS+. Both players are starting caliber MLB catchers, and Sanchez has plenty of room to improve behind the plate. His size is against him, and I think that the perception of laziness is completely incorrect. I doubt Sanchez is a catcher past age 30, but in the mean time, he's a deadly weapon of strength at a position that only rarely has had a performer with his combination of power and arm strength.
In the end, I like Realmuto. I like him a lot. He deserves his own place in baseball history. Right now, that place should NOT be on the NY Yankees...
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Post by sierchio on Dec 30, 2017 9:47:32 GMT -5
WE WILL NOT SUBMIT TO THIS... B.S.
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Post by kaybli on Jan 7, 2018 22:56:52 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Jan 8, 2018 0:29:58 GMT -5
Domeplease would love to have a left side of the infield of Solarte and Nunez. Two MVP candidates side by side...Both still prospects past age 30... |
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