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Post by greatfatness on Dec 4, 2018 9:46:31 GMT -5
Just curious, is there a reason the Yankees didn't go after Scherzer when he was a free agent? Were they trying to reduce payroll like this article suggest? nypost.com/2018/12/03/yankees-wont-have-to-wait-long-to-learn-patrick-corbin-fate/I just notice it's not very often an ace becomes available on the open market so we should've went for it. If we didn't sign Ellsbury the year before then we definitely would've been in the sweepstakes? If Scherzer was on our staff you think we win at least 1 World Series title? Might've made the difference in 2017. Scherzer was a free agent at the time that the Yankees were trying to get their payroll under control to reset the luxury tax after the roughly $500,000,000 they handed out the year before. And he signed a 7 year deal worth $210,000,000. So I don’t think they ever seriously considered being a legitimate player in that contest. They spent the money on Ellsbury, McCann, Tanaka and Beltran knowing they would have to then pass on someone like Scherzer. The opportunity to be a player for Scherzer was passed when they spent the money on Ellsbury and McCann. |
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Post by desousa on Dec 4, 2018 15:53:44 GMT -5
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Post by NewYawka on Dec 4, 2018 16:19:25 GMT -5
I am not overly upset that Corbin is not signing with the Yankees. I was a bit concerned he would end up an expensive bust in the AL East. He had a fantastic year last year and is getting paid for it. I think someone like Eovaldi or Happ on a cheaper and shorter deal are the way to go. Both have shown they can handle the pressure of this environment.
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Post by inger on Dec 4, 2018 16:40:19 GMT -5
If I'm Happ or Eovaldi, I'm really happy today...But I'm not...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 16:52:07 GMT -5
Corbin was the best FA pitcher on the market. The Yankees need two starters. Getting Corbin would have meant that they signed the best two guys out there unless they somehow pry Kluber away from the Indians via trade. Corbin just cost money. Maybe Cash has something cooking on that front, but I don’t think we have the prospects to compete unless somebody like Andujar is added. If not, it looks like 36 year old J.A. Happ might be the alternative. It may be that Hal will stubbornly stay below the luxury tax limit which if true would preclude the club from signing Machado or Harper. If that’s the case, how does it bode for the Yankees retaining Robertson and or Britton? Cue loud mouth Randy Levine who laughingly just said the Yankees are as good as Boston right now. The certainly are not. If money gets in the way of the Yankees going all out to in 2019 it will be because they won’t commit the money not because they can’t .
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Post by domeplease on Dec 4, 2018 17:08:49 GMT -5
Corbin was the best FA pitcher on the market. The Yankees need two starters. Getting Corbin would have meant that they signed the best two guys out there unless they somehow pry Kluber away from the Indians via trade. Corbin just cost money. Maybe Cash has something cooking on that front, but I don’t think we have the prospects to compete unless somebody like Andujar is added. If not, it looks like 36 year old J.A. Happ might be the alternative. It may be that Hal will stubbornly stay below the luxury tax limit which if true would preclude the club from signing Machado or Harper. If that’s the case, how does it bode for the Yankees retaining Robertson and or Britton? Cue loud mouth Randy Levine who laughingly just said the Yankees are as good as Boston right now. The certainly are not. If money gets in the way of the Yankees going all out to in 2019 it will be because they won’t commit the money not because they can’t . CHUCK: Again, I AGREE WITH YOU!!! We needed Corbin PERIOD. HAPP, is just that a HAPP = A last resort.
So we are left with Tank, Sev and CC, behind Paxton. I do not Trust Tank Sev or CC for the entire season; Paxton, I do.
AND NO, right now, WE are nowhere near being as good as the Red Sox.
WE better built up our BP for as it stands NOW, they will be used, really used!!!
Yes, resigning Robertson & Britton is (as of NOW) looking like pretty good decision (if WE make it such).
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Post by hawaiiyankee on Dec 4, 2018 17:27:26 GMT -5
Corbin signing might be a blessing in disguise. Maybe we go after Sale next year. Not sure if he's to old for their liking. It's like if we never signed Tanaka, maybe Scherzer would've been in play at $30M. I still don't understand his contract but maybe his deferred payments is why. His annual salary doesn't average out to $30M/yr.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 18:22:34 GMT -5
I think the focus is on 2019. If ownership/ management want to kick the can further down the road, or keep their fingers crossed that Boston will somehow implode, then just say so. As presently constructed, this Yankee team is nowhere near championship caliber. They wont catch Boston without utilising their financial muscle.
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Post by kaybli on Dec 4, 2018 18:29:43 GMT -5
They better get Harper or Machado. Or they are some cheap bastards.
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Post by kaybli on Dec 4, 2018 18:32:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 18:42:11 GMT -5
Nate says that his preference is to return to Boston. Plus the fact that he's had two TJs one would think would raise the alarm.
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 4, 2018 18:55:28 GMT -5
I don't know, that's a lot of money and a lot of years for Corbin. I'm not sure I would have done it, but the Yankees only offering 5 years @ 20 million was disappointing, they should have known that wasn't going to get it done.
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Post by inger on Dec 4, 2018 19:01:31 GMT -5
Corbin was the best FA pitcher on the market. The Yankees need two starters. Getting Corbin would have meant that they signed the best two guys out there unless they somehow pry Kluber away from the Indians via trade. Corbin just cost money. Maybe Cash has something cooking on that front, but I don’t think we have the prospects to compete unless somebody like Andujar is added. If not, it looks like 36 year old J.A. Happ might be the alternative. It may be that Hal will stubbornly stay below the luxury tax limit which if true would preclude the club from signing Machado or Harper. If that’s the case, how does it bode for the Yankees retaining Robertson and or Britton? Cue loud mouth Randy Levine who laughingly just said the Yankees are as good as Boston right now. The certainly are not. If money gets in the way of the Yankees going all out to in 2019 it will be because they won’t commit the money not because they can’t . The only prospect pieces that we have that would be able to be major pieces in trade right now are Florial, who is still at least 2 years away, and Loaisga + German, both pitchers with injury issues that may ultimately wind up in the bullpen... I’d like to keep Florial. I’d sacrifice either or both pitchers to bring back a MLB pitcher. If we’re looking to deal with Cleveland, they’re most likely going to want MLB talent to keep them in the hunt. Who? Andujar, Torres, or Stanton I would figure... Lots going on.The Yankee farm system is still strong, but no longer at the MLB-ready stage... which reminds me, Clint Frazier certainly can’t headline a deal, but he could be a sweetening piece that might put us over the top if we’re close. Plus, if we’re talking Kluber, then Florial can go, too... For Kluber, I wouldn’t miss him. I’d hate to give him up for Trevor Bauer and such... |
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Post by inger on Dec 4, 2018 19:05:55 GMT -5
I don't know, that's a lot of money and a lot of years for Corbin. I'm not sure I would have done it, but the Yankees only offering 5 years @ 20 million was disappointing, they should have known that wasn't going to get it done. Disappointing, yes...but perhaps smart and realistic. Corbin has a history of injury and inconsistency. The Nats may be immediate winners, but in the long run have regrets...The shorter the term. The more per year should be offered...perhaps we should have been in the $25M per range, but that still doesn’t do it unless Corbin REALLY wanted to be here... |
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Post by greatfatness on Dec 4, 2018 19:14:06 GMT -5
I don't know, that's a lot of money and a lot of years for Corbin. I'm not sure I would have done it, but the Yankees only offering 5 years @ 20 million was disappointing, they should have known that wasn't going to get it done. I’m not disappointed by that. That’s a sensible contract. If the market goes beyond that there’s merit in discipline. He’s not worth 6/126. Especially in the AL East. |
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