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Post by sierchio on Nov 7, 2017 17:05:25 GMT -5
He died in plane crash today. Condolences to his family.. left behind a wife and two kids... aged 40, crashed into Gulf Of Mexico. One of the best pitches of his era...
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 7, 2017 17:46:28 GMT -5
RIP
Terrible news. He was such a great pitcher before the injuries set in and age 40 is way too soon.
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Post by kaybli on Nov 7, 2017 17:47:03 GMT -5
Damn that's sad. RIP.
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Post by bleedpinstripes on Nov 7, 2017 17:52:39 GMT -5
Just heartbreaking news. When I saw a breaking news alert with his name I knew something tragic had happened but hoped it was somehow something baseball related.
Apparently they have produced 7 units of the plane he was flying and 3 of them have now been destroyed in crashes.
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Post by lazera on Nov 7, 2017 20:26:27 GMT -5
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Post by anthonyd46 on Nov 7, 2017 20:30:49 GMT -5
Just heartbreaking news. When I saw a breaking news alert with his name I knew something tragic had happened but hoped it was somehow something baseball related. Apparently they have produced 7 units of the plane he was flying and 3 of them have now been destroyed in crashes. Thats very scary to have that kind of failure rate thats almost 50%. That plane doesn't look safe from that video either its so small. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Nov 7, 2017 20:35:59 GMT -5
On April 1, 2017, a factory-owned A5 suffered a "heavy landing" on water near Biscayne National Park, Florida which resulted in the sinking of the aircraft. Both the pilot and passenger were uninjured, but the aircraft took on water and submerged to its wings before being towed eight miles to a marina. This was the first A5 accident. While Icon is reviewing the incident, company CEO Hawkins said all information points to pilot error.
On May 8, 2017, a factory-owned A5 crashed on the shore of Lake Berryessa in Napa County, California, near the company's training facility. Killed in the accident were two Icon employees: lead engineer and chief company test pilot Jon Karkow, who was the pilot in command; and Cagri Sever, Icon's director of engineering, who was a passenger on the flight. Karkow had been involved in the design of the A5's folding wings as well as parts of the aircraft's control systems. Just prior to the crash the aircraft was witnessed maneuvering at very low altitude and entering a narrow canyon, when, at high power, it pitched up and rolled to the left, impacting terrain. The National Transportation Safety Board determined that the cause was "the pilot's failure to maintain clearance from terrain while maneuvering at a low altitude." The board found no fault with the aircraft.
On November 7, 2017, former Major League Baseball pitcher Roy Halladay was killed when his A5 crashed into the Gulf of Mexico off the coast of Pasco County, Florida. Halladay had just taken delivery of his new A5 on October 12, 2017.
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Post by inger on Nov 7, 2017 21:53:23 GMT -5
I've often thought these words from Harry Chapin's "Sequel", which was written as a sequel to his hit song "Taxi" were poignant in life. No more so than in this case after watching the video of Halladay and seeing how excited he was to finally get his pilot's license and be able to fly his own plane. I also think of Thurman Munson, who had not owned his plane for long and of Payne Stewart, though Stewart was not the owner or operator of the Learjet in which he died...
For those of us that are of a younger generation and may not be familiar with Chapin's work, I'm a big fan. At first, I found him to be almost unlisten-able as he doesn't have much of a voice or range, but he wrote his own stuff and his heart was definitely in every word that he sang...which won me over...
She said, "I've heard you flying high on my radio"
I answered, "It's not all it seems"
That's when she laughed and she said
"It's better sometimes, when we don't get to touch our dreams"
Fame and money increase our options in life. Sometimes to our betterment, and sometimes not. For that reason, it's better to be grateful for what we have than to wish for more, but damn! That is hard to do sometimes...I guess it is better sometimes to die doing what you love instead of just wishing you could do it, but at 40, with a couple of kids and a wife that's a hard sell. Ruthies' nephew is chafing at the bit, wanting to get a third deployment overseas having survived two stints in Afghanistan. Well, I guess we can be thankful that someone wants to do that stuff, but...he's got four kids and a wife...and at 37 his clock is ticking on the day when he won't be able to do as well as the other soldiers, when that one extra push he has to make might not come...that one millisecond faster he has to be might not be...
I remember an attorney...the one that did the closing on my first two houses. He had his own plane and was always taking people up for rides. Often, it was someone he barely knew, but he loved to fly, even loved barrel rolls and loop-the-loops and would do them with passengers. He and a young secretary on her first flight perished when he took her up in the air when he was 78 years old and still flying. He had a heart-attack up there...
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Post by anthonyd46 on Nov 7, 2017 21:57:03 GMT -5
I thought Harry Chapin died in a car accident?
Never mind I get what you are saying I agree sometimes our "dreams" aren't what is best for us long term.
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Post by inger on Nov 8, 2017 0:20:03 GMT -5
I thought Harry Chapin died in a car accident? Never mind I get what you are saying I agree sometimes our "dreams" aren't what is best for us long term. Yes, he died in a car accident, but he wrote the words to the song...no less sad the death, though. I think he was still in his late thirties...37-38? Looked a bit older, I thought... |
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Post by kaybli on Nov 8, 2017 14:27:23 GMT -5
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Nov 8, 2017 15:17:29 GMT -5
This is heartbreaking, I dont even know what to say...I love Roy Halladay. My favorite pitcher of all time. RIP Doc, we love you.
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Post by sierchio on Nov 8, 2017 15:39:39 GMT -5
On April 1, 2017, a factory-owned A5 suffered a "heavy landing" on water near Biscayne National Park, Florida which resulted in the sinking of the aircraft. Both the pilot and passenger were uninjured, but the aircraft took on water and submerged to its wings before being towed eight miles to a marina. This was the first A5 accident. While Icon is reviewing the incident, company CEO Hawkins said all information points to pilot error. On May 8, 2017, a factory-owned A5 crashed on the shore of Lake Berryessa in Napa County, California, near the company's training facility. Killed in the accident were two Icon employees: lead engineer and chief company test pilot Jon Karkow, who was the pilot in command; and Cagri Sever, Icon's director of engineering, who was a passenger on the flight. Karkow had been involved in the design of the A5's folding wings as well as parts of the aircraft's control systems. Just prior to the crash the aircraft was witnessed maneuvering at very low altitude and entering a narrow canyon, when, at high power, it pitched up and rolled to the left, impacting terrain. The National Transportation Safety Board determined that the cause was "the pilot's failure to maintain clearance from terrain while maneuvering at a low altitude." The board found no fault with the aircraft. On November 7, 2017, former Major League Baseball pitcher Roy Halladay was killed when his A5 crashed into the Gulf of Mexico off the coast of Pasco County, Florida. Halladay had just taken delivery of his new A5 on October 12, 2017. I read that on wikipedia as well. Did you catch the pictures of the plane? The interior looks like a car... and apparently, they're not fast.. nor safe...  |
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Post by sierchio on Nov 8, 2017 15:44:54 GMT -5
"If you really put the hammer down, the A5 can get up to about 90 knots. It is not meant to go far, fast or carry much load. If that’s what you need, Icon will happily give you the number for your local Cirrus dealer—or Southwest Airlines. The A5 was designed for fun—and to qualify as a light-sport aircraft, which it barely did by getting a waiver to increase its maximum takeoff weight. There are other new airplanes designed principally for fun, mostly other light sports, but in comparison to the A5, they sometimes feel like really nice kitplanes"
So they can't go far.. nor fast.. and apparently they're not very safe at all...
Regardless, this isn't a plane discussion website and the bigger news is that an all time great pitcher and from what we know a great family man has perished from this earth. RIP Holliday and thanks for the memories. One of the greatest pitchers of his generation. I thought he was a sure shot Hall of Famer.. although, his counting stats don't add up... (I thought if Moose can't get in, Holliday was gonna have a hard time as well.. IMO they both deserve in.. especially since Glavine and Smoltz got in..)
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Post by kaybli on Nov 8, 2017 16:36:09 GMT -5
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