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Post by inger on Mar 18, 2020 12:58:13 GMT -5
This has been a test. This is only a test. Had there been an actual emergency the nation would be in a toilet paper and hand sanitizer shortage and people would be hoarding foods with a short shelf life... "For a disease that kills relatively few" is an uninformed opinion. It hasn't killed you yet because you don't have it. Yet. Read the analysis from Imperial College released yesterday. The nitwits hoarding toilet paper are panicking. The government leaders ordering people to stay home are not panicking, they're trying to protect hospitals from being overrun by morons like the people who filled Broadway in Nashville this weekend partying. It is extremely contagious and there's no natural immunity to it yet and no vaccine available yet. One has to wonder at this point if the Coronavirus may not be what I have had. My doctor never suggested that was what I had, and while some of the symptoms match up with what we are told the symptoms are, some did not. Ruthie got sick recently, but her illness lasted a relatively short span of time. I’m now improving rapidly, though some symptoms are still lingering... |
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Post by noetsi on Mar 18, 2020 13:18:26 GMT -5
The death rate from this disease is low compared to say Cholera or Bubonic plague. So no its not an uninformed opinion. Americans have forgotten what true pandemics are like.
Far more people will die of auto accidents this year than will die of this disease in the US. They are not destroying the US economy because of accidents. Severely harming an economy kills people as well, potentially a lot. There are real costs from economic dislocation, this tends to get forgotten except by economists and data analyst.
I am glad you are doing better inger. Given your age if you got well that quickly I doubt you had the coronavirus.
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Post by inger on Mar 18, 2020 15:44:11 GMT -5
The death rate from this disease is low compared to say Cholera or Bubonic plague. So no its not an uninformed opinion. Americans have forgotten what true pandemics are like. Far more people will die of auto accidents this year than will die of this disease in the US. They are not destroying the US economy because of accidents. Severely harming an economy kills people as well, potentially a lot. There are real costs from economic dislocation, this tends to get forgotten except by economists and data analyst. I am glad you are doing better inger. Given your age if you got well that quickly I doubt you had the coronavirus. I doubt it, too. On the other hand I’ve been symptomatic since October, so... about 6 months now. I do think my work colleague may have gotten into my head. He’s been suggesting I had the COVID-19 since about December. I kept telling him no, but he’s still harping in it. He got bronchitis for the first time in his life, so now he thinks he had it, too. He’s apparently easily convinced that it’s everywhere. Maybe it is... |
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Post by noetsi on Mar 18, 2020 16:13:24 GMT -5
I think if you had it for six months, and did not get pneumonia, than its not likely to be corona. But of course I am not a medical doctor  |
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Post by greatfatness on Mar 18, 2020 16:17:29 GMT -5
The death rate from this disease is low compared to say Cholera or Bubonic plague. So no its not an uninformed opinion. Americans have forgotten what true pandemics are like. Far more people will die of auto accidents this year than will die of this disease in the US. They are not destroying the US economy because of accidents. Severely harming an economy kills people as well, potentially a lot. There are real costs from economic dislocation, this tends to get forgotten except by economists and data analyst. I hope you're right. Actual experts who study these things and who are informed don't agree with you, but what do they know? Good luck to you with that. |
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Post by greatfatness on Mar 18, 2020 16:32:16 GMT -5
The death rate from this disease is low compared to say Cholera or Bubonic plague. So no its not an uninformed opinion. Americans have forgotten what true pandemics are like. Far more people will die of auto accidents this year than will die of this disease in the US. They are not destroying the US economy because of accidents. Severely harming an economy kills people as well, potentially a lot. There are real costs from economic dislocation, this tends to get forgotten except by economists and data analyst. I am glad you are doing better inger. Given your age if you got well that quickly I doubt you had the coronavirus. I doubt it, too. On the other hand I’ve been symptomatic since October, so... about 6 months now. I do think my work colleague may have gotten into my head. He’s been suggesting I had the COVID-19 since about December. I kept telling him no, but he’s still harping in it. He got bronchitis for the first time in his life, so now he thinks he had it, too. He’s apparently easily convinced that it’s everywhere. Maybe it is... The Wuhan outbreak wasn't reported to the WHO until late December so unless you were traveling to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan province, that seems unlikely. I think believing it is everywhere is only a close second to believing it isn't going to be a big deal. Except that being wrong thinking one of those things makes you neurotic and being wrong thinking the other one could land you in the hospital. If there's room in the hospital, which there might not be. And lest anyone think this is partisan, which almost everything is these days, Trump today initiated the Defense Production Act, a pretty extraordinary measure. So either he agrees this is a huge risk, or he's just leveraging this as an opportunity to abuse power. This is a case where I will give him the benefit of the doubt. |
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Post by greatfatness on Mar 18, 2020 16:37:06 GMT -5
"For a disease that kills relatively few" is an uninformed opinion. It hasn't killed you yet because you don't have it. Yet. Read the analysis from Imperial College released yesterday. The nitwits hoarding toilet paper are panicking. The government leaders ordering people to stay home are not panicking, they're trying to protect hospitals from being overrun by morons like the people who filled Broadway in Nashville this weekend partying. It is extremely contagious and there's no natural immunity to it yet and no vaccine available yet. One has to wonder at this point if the Coronavirus may not be what I have had. My doctor never suggested that was what I had, and while some of the symptoms match up with what we are told the symptoms are, some did not. Ruthie got sick recently, but her illness lasted a relatively short span of time. I’m now improving rapidly, though some symptoms are still lingering... I was actually in China in early January so there was a question actually when I was sick in February, but it was almost certainly flu for a variety of reasons not the least of which are that I eventually recovered and my family didn't get sick. If you're improving rapidly it is highly unlikely you have COVID19. Glad to hear you're feeling better. Weird times, man. |
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Post by inger on Mar 18, 2020 16:57:36 GMT -5
One has to wonder at this point if the Coronavirus may not be what I have had. My doctor never suggested that was what I had, and while some of the symptoms match up with what we are told the symptoms are, some did not. Ruthie got sick recently, but her illness lasted a relatively short span of time. I’m now improving rapidly, though some symptoms are still lingering... I was actually in China in early January so there was a question actually when I was sick in February, but it was almost certainly flu for a variety of reasons not the least of which are that I eventually recovered and my family didn't get sick. If you're improving rapidly it is highly unlikely you have COVID19. Glad to hear you're feeling better. Weird times, man. Our family cook, Hop Sing, often hops a flight to Wuhan to get us fresh bats for our bat soup. Other than that, I can’t think of a correlation to the COVID-19 thing at all. I am seeing rapid improvement over the last 3-4 days as compared to the slow improvement followed by hard and sudden relapse pattern over the past several months. Either way, it really sucks. Then, just as I’m getting better, the world around me starts taking a vicious dump. But, ah. These are the days we’ll laugh about someday, right?... |
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Post by noetsi on Mar 18, 2020 18:21:29 GMT -5
The death rate from this disease is low compared to say Cholera or Bubonic plague. So no its not an uninformed opinion. Americans have forgotten what true pandemics are like. Far more people will die of auto accidents this year than will die of this disease in the US. They are not destroying the US economy because of accidents. Severely harming an economy kills people as well, potentially a lot. There are real costs from economic dislocation, this tends to get forgotten except by economists and data analyst. I hope you're right. Actual experts who study these things and who are informed don't agree with you, but what do they know? Good luck to you with that. The medical experts who are making these comments are not experts in how economic dislocation influences death rates. Nor are they even addressing the point I raised which is outside their expertise (they are not economist and like most academics stick to their area of expertise).
None of the experts I have seen discuss corona virus, and I have read a fair number, have compared the increase loss due to wrecking the economy to fight the disease to the death rate caused by not wrecking the economy and fighting the disease less. Moreover, many of them argue that we have no idea what this disease will or will not do since we know too little about it.
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Post by noetsi on Mar 18, 2020 18:23:16 GMT -5
I was actually in China in early January so there was a question actually when I was sick in February, but it was almost certainly flu for a variety of reasons not the least of which are that I eventually recovered and my family didn't get sick. If you're improving rapidly it is highly unlikely you have COVID19. Glad to hear you're feeling better. Weird times, man. Our family cook, Hop Sing, often hops a flight to Wuhan to get us fresh bats for our bat soup. Other than that, I can’t think of a correlation to the COVID-19 thing at all. I am seeing rapid improvement over the last 3-4 days as compared to the slow improvement followed by hard and sudden relapse pattern over the past several months. Either way, it really sucks. Then, just as I’m getting better, the world around me starts taking a vicious dump. But, ah. These are the days we’ll laugh about someday, right?... Getting old is not a good thing except that it beats the alternatives. When you are older it takes longer to recover. |
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 18, 2020 21:06:51 GMT -5
The death rate from this disease is low compared to say Cholera or Bubonic plague. So no its not an uninformed opinion. Americans have forgotten what true pandemics are like. Far more people will die of auto accidents this year than will die of this disease in the US. They are not destroying the US economy because of accidents. Severely harming an economy kills people as well, potentially a lot. There are real costs from economic dislocation, this tends to get forgotten except by economists and data analyst. I am glad you are doing better inger. Given your age if you got well that quickly I doubt you had the coronavirus. I doubt it, too. On the other hand I’ve been symptomatic since October, so... about 6 months now. I do think my work colleague may have gotten into my head. He’s been suggesting I had the COVID-19 since about December. I kept telling him no, but he’s still harping in it. He got bronchitis for the first time in his life, so now he thinks he had it, too. He’s apparently easily convinced that it’s everywhere. Maybe it is... I’d be willing to bet your illness was gravel-related... |
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Post by inger on Mar 18, 2020 22:27:49 GMT -5
If you’re suggesting it was pea gravel, I really didn’t pee all that often during the term of the illness.
Reminded of Mrs. Burt from high school Health Class. About 4’ 8”, both tall and wide. She worn horn-rimmed glasses and her hair curled up in the front on both sides, making her look more like an owl than many owls I’ve seen.
When she would tell us about VD, she would always tell about the man that went to his doctor, and when the doctor told him he had VD he said “Do you suppose I might have gotten it from the toilet”? To which the doctor would reply “I suppose sir, that you might have. But that would be a mighty strange place to take a woman”.
Her head would fly back and she would laugh as we sat there and wondered what the hell she meant. It WAS eighth grade...
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Post by kaybli on Mar 18, 2020 23:12:02 GMT -5
I doubt it, too. On the other hand I’ve been symptomatic since October, so... about 6 months now. I do think my work colleague may have gotten into my head. He’s been suggesting I had the COVID-19 since about December. I kept telling him no, but he’s still harping in it. He got bronchitis for the first time in his life, so now he thinks he had it, too. He’s apparently easily convinced that it’s everywhere. Maybe it is... I’d be willing to bet your illness was gravel-related...  |
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Post by noetsi on Mar 20, 2020 12:09:56 GMT -5
Sales to get tommy john surgery.
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Post by kaybli on Mar 20, 2020 15:57:47 GMT -5
A CT scan taken of Aaron Judge's first right rib showed "slight improvement," the outfielder said Friday.
The exam also showed that Judge's collapsed lung (which was previously undisclosed) has completely healed. He will undergo another scan in two weeks, but it's looking at this point like he will not need surgery to repair the stress fracture in his rib. Obviously, the season being delayed indefinitely affords him extra time to recover.
Source: Bryan Hoch on Twitter
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