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Post by kaybli on May 19, 2020 10:43:54 GMT -5
If its players vs owners, I'm on the player's side. They will be the ones taking the risk. And the owners are much richer anyway. I think the biggest difference between NASCAR starting back up and any other sports is the amount of physical contact. With NASCAR the only people that are any close to each other are the guys changing the tires and fueling the car, but even if that became an issue they could always just make the pitstops at defined times and just have them do it like 2 crew members at a time and whatever. Everything else there's no distance problems because no one else has to be anywhere near any else. In baseball, football, basketball there is massive amounts of touching. Hockey as well, but not sure the temperatures they play in and the fact you have loads of gear and play with a stick helps or not. In baseball you literally have to tag someone out and the ball itself is touched by multiple people in the same play. The other thing is NASCAR has maybe 50 eligible drivers that can compete in a race (not all of them make it only about 38-40 do) and its at one location. Thee other sports have between 450 to 1700 players. (NBA 450, NHL approx 700, MLB approx 900, NFL approx 1700). Thats not including the crew, officials, media etc that are also there. Plus these games are all at different locations so you have to worry about multiple locations daily. With NASCAR they go into the one location, have the race, then come back again or go to a different one. Most tracks aren't used more than 3-4 days a year (thats when they have practice and qualifying something they aren't doing right now). The same 50 drivers over and over. With baseball just because let's say Team A that comes to Yankee Stadium is healthy doesn't mean 3 days later when Team B comes they are going to be healthy as well. So I can why the players aren't too willing to play under these conditions. Thats also not including the minor league teams from the four major sports that switch players in and out all the time which is more locations a player might have been etc. The minor leagues in NASCAR run mostly at the same track on the same weekend so if they did need to call up someone they most likely are already there anyway. Then you got the Canada 14 day quarantine rule so are the bluejays like never allowed to have a home game? I just feel like there's too many what ifs here and too many bending of rules to even give this a shot and even if they do something could still happen. I think it needs to be at a state where this virus is under control better to where people don't have to worry about this and I don't think it's there right now. The only other sport I can see starting back up again is golf, because similar to NASCAR they aren't having a new team coming into the same location the entire PGA tour plays their 4 days at the course then leaves and doesn't return to that course for a year. Plus everything is done again singularity. No one is interfering with the player trying to tackle, stop the player etc. The other thing is in NASCAR there's no shared locker room they all have their own motor home so there's no need to worry about who was there or touched what. Does a certain number of players in the MLBPA have to agree on starting the season or is there no raw number rule? Thats a good question anthony. I'm not sure about how many players have to vote to start the season.
I agree with your overall points. There's so many health and logistical concerns, I don't see how its a good idea to come back in July. Nevertheless, if they come back I will be watching for sure! |
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Post by domeplease on May 19, 2020 11:17:54 GMT -5
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Post by anthonyd46 on May 19, 2020 17:54:24 GMT -5
I think the biggest difference between NASCAR starting back up and any other sports is the amount of physical contact. With NASCAR the only people that are any close to each other are the guys changing the tires and fueling the car, but even if that became an issue they could always just make the pitstops at defined times and just have them do it like 2 crew members at a time and whatever. Everything else there's no distance problems because no one else has to be anywhere near any else. In baseball, football, basketball there is massive amounts of touching. Hockey as well, but not sure the temperatures they play in and the fact you have loads of gear and play with a stick helps or not. In baseball you literally have to tag someone out and the ball itself is touched by multiple people in the same play. The other thing is NASCAR has maybe 50 eligible drivers that can compete in a race (not all of them make it only about 38-40 do) and its at one location. Thee other sports have between 450 to 1700 players. (NBA 450, NHL approx 700, MLB approx 900, NFL approx 1700). Thats not including the crew, officials, media etc that are also there. Plus these games are all at different locations so you have to worry about multiple locations daily. With NASCAR they go into the one location, have the race, then come back again or go to a different one. Most tracks aren't used more than 3-4 days a year (thats when they have practice and qualifying something they aren't doing right now). The same 50 drivers over and over. With baseball just because let's say Team A that comes to Yankee Stadium is healthy doesn't mean 3 days later when Team B comes they are going to be healthy as well. So I can why the players aren't too willing to play under these conditions. Thats also not including the minor league teams from the four major sports that switch players in and out all the time which is more locations a player might have been etc. The minor leagues in NASCAR run mostly at the same track on the same weekend so if they did need to call up someone they most likely are already there anyway. Then you got the Canada 14 day quarantine rule so are the bluejays like never allowed to have a home game? I just feel like there's too many what ifs here and too many bending of rules to even give this a shot and even if they do something could still happen. I think it needs to be at a state where this virus is under control better to where people don't have to worry about this and I don't think it's there right now. The only other sport I can see starting back up again is golf, because similar to NASCAR they aren't having a new team coming into the same location the entire PGA tour plays their 4 days at the course then leaves and doesn't return to that course for a year. Plus everything is done again singularity. No one is interfering with the player trying to tackle, stop the player etc. The other thing is in NASCAR there's no shared locker room they all have their own motor home so there's no need to worry about who was there or touched what. Does a certain number of players in the MLBPA have to agree on starting the season or is there no raw number rule? Thats a good question anthony. I'm not sure about how many players have to vote to start the season.
I agree with your overall points. There's so many health and logistical concerns, I don't see how its a good idea to come back in July. Nevertheless, if they come back I will be watching for sure! I'll watch no matter what weird rules, but if its going to cause some players to get gravely sick then I am all for the players safety. |
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Post by kaybli on May 19, 2020 18:24:52 GMT -5
Thats a good question anthony. I'm not sure about how many players have to vote to start the season.
I agree with your overall points. There's so many health and logistical concerns, I don't see how its a good idea to come back in July. Nevertheless, if they come back I will be watching for sure! I'll watch no matter what weird rules, but if its going to cause some players to get gravely sick then I am all for the players safety. Absolutely.  |
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Post by domeplease on May 20, 2020 13:51:24 GMT -5
V-Articles that Might Help you & Inform you:
--05-20-20 NOT GOOD--If this is New strain would be THIRD MUTATION: www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/chinas-new-outbreak-shows-signs-the-virus-could-be-changing/ar-BB14leel?li=BBnb7Kz(Bloomberg) -- Chinese doctors are seeing the coronavirus manifest differently among patients in its new cluster of cases in the northeast region compared to the original outbreak in Wuhan, suggesting that the pathogen may be changing in unknown ways and complicating efforts to stamp it out. Patients found in the northern provinces of Jilin and Heilongjiang appear to carry the virus for a longer period of time and take longer to test negative, Qiu Haibo, one of China’s top critical care doctors, told state television on Tuesday. Patients in the northeast also appear to be taking longer than the one to two weeks observed in Wuhan to develop symptoms after infection, and this delayed onset is making it harder for authorities to catch cases before they spread, said Qiu, who is now in the northern region treating patients. “The longer period during which infected patients show no symptoms has created clusters of family infections,” said Qiu, who was earlier sent to Wuhan to help in the original outbreak. READ MORE… --05-20-20 VERY SAD: www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/they-beat-the-virus-now-they-feel-like-outcasts/ar-BB14m2Gp?li=BBnb7Kz --05-20-20: edition.cnn.com/travel/article/one-euro-house-italy-coronavirus/index.html |
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Post by anthonyd46 on May 21, 2020 10:06:46 GMT -5
This probably isn't a good sign if they are looking at other ways to use the area during times baseball games are to be scheduled to play.
I also noticed they canceled two big oyster festivals that happen here in CT in late August and early September already so I wonder if there's some new info out there.
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Post by domeplease on May 21, 2020 15:50:29 GMT -5
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Post by anthonyd46 on May 21, 2020 22:08:36 GMT -5
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Post by domeplease on May 23, 2020 14:20:00 GMT -5
ARTICLES THAT CAN HELP YOU & INFO FOR YOU.
An infection can inflict serious damage inside your body in many different ways, and COVID-19 seems to use just about all of them. The coronavirus primarily attacks the lungs, which can cause pneumonia or even respiratory failure, and in one of every five patients, it also leads to multiple organ failure. Yet, as the pandemic continues to ravage the world, case reports have emerged of more unusual damage ranging from hundreds of tiny blood clots to strokes in young people, and even mysterious inflammatory responses, such as full-body rashes in children and the red lesions that have come to be known unofficially as COVID toe. Although these conditions seem strange and scary, they have been seen in viral medicine even before the advent of COVID-19, and, to some degree, they are to be expected. Every human body is unique, so a disease that strikes millions of people will yield some oddities. READ MORE… --05-23-20: www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-22/who-s-succeeding-against-the-coronavirus-and-why-quicktake?srnd=premium Who’s Succeeding Against the Coronavirus and Why. READ MORE… --05-23-20: www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coronavirus-devastates-black-new-orleans-this-is-bigger-than-katrina/ar-BB14uu5r?li=BBnb7Kz …New Orleans and Louisiana are taking a direct hit from the coronavirus pandemic. More people in the state are currently on unemployment rolls—300,000—and more have died—2,500—than when Hurricane Katrina slammed the shores 15 years ago. The New Orleans area at one point had the worst coronavirus death rate in the U.S. As with Katrina, the burden is falling disproportionately on black Louisianians. Black residents make up 32% of the state’s population but 55% of its deaths from Covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus. The numbers are similar in New York, Chicago and across the country. Economists and civic leaders are warning that the deaths are only the start of what could be a devastating setback to black communities in America. Black workers are losing jobs at elevated rates and are less prepared for the shock. Many black-owned small businesses have been unable to access a government-supported loan program meant to keep them afloat. READ MORE… |
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Post by kaybli on May 25, 2020 12:16:42 GMT -5
According to Ken Rosenthal and Evan Drellich of The Athletic, MLB will offer an "alternative proposal" for player salaries during a scheduled meeting with the Players Association on Tuesday. The idea of a 50-50 split of revenue sharing wasn't well received by the players, as they saw it as a salary cap, so the question now is whether they'll hold firm on pro-rated salaries or possibly work with the owners on some sort of compromise on a percentage-based cut. Deferring salary for 2020 is something the players have discussed to address the owners' concern of cash-flow amid the COVID-19 pandemic, though this could have an impact how teams spend in free agency and arbitration next offseason. Needless to say, the financial part is coming along more slowly than the measures regarding health and safety. There's an informal deadline of June 1 for an agreement, so there's not much time to meet the goals of a mid-June spring training 2.0 and an early-July Opening Day. Something will have to give this week.
Source: The Athletic |
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Post by kaybli on May 25, 2020 12:24:34 GMT -5
Yankees playing hardball on ticket refunds amid coronavirus, fans say
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Post by domeplease on May 25, 2020 12:31:07 GMT -5
Yankees playing hardball on ticket refunds amid coronavirus, fans say
NOT ONLY SAD BUT STUPID!!! |
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Post by chiyankee on May 25, 2020 13:38:03 GMT -5
Yankees playing hardball on ticket refunds amid coronavirus, fans say
This is not the Yanks greatest moment. Is Randy Levine behind this? |
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Post by kaybli on May 25, 2020 17:27:49 GMT -5
Yankees playing hardball on ticket refunds amid coronavirus, fans say
This is not the Yanks greatest moment. Is Randy Levine behind this? Definitely sounds like a Randy Levine inspired event.  |
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Post by rizzuto on May 25, 2020 21:49:54 GMT -5
This is not the Yanks greatest moment. Is Randy Levine behind this? Definitely sounds like a Randy Levine inspired event. In Louisiana, we would call this “chicken-shit.” Remember, you cannot make chicken salad out of chicken-shit.  |
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