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Post by kaybli on Jan 15, 2021 21:56:29 GMT -5
According to FanGraphs with the arbitration raises and Kluber we're at 207 million. If that's right then no Tanaka without going over the luxury cap.
Edit: on sportrac they are actually over the luxury cap at 212 million if you include the player benefits.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jan 15, 2021 23:32:25 GMT -5
According to FanGraphs with the arbitration raises and Kluber we're at 207 million. If that's right then no Tanaka without going over the luxury cap.
Edit: on sportrac they are actually over the luxury cap at 212 million if you include the player benefits.
Maybe they are not going to try to keep under now gotta think they need one more pitcher at least. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 15, 2021 23:41:57 GMT -5
According to FanGraphs with the arbitration raises and Kluber we're at 207 million. If that's right then no Tanaka without going over the luxury cap.
Edit: on sportrac they are actually over the luxury cap at 212 million if you include the player benefits.
I read somewhere that the Yankees 40 man roster is full, so they have to make room for D.J. & Kluber which should reduce their 40 man payroll a little. |
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Post by inger on Jan 15, 2021 23:52:06 GMT -5
If the team truly is determined to watch their spending, Kluber would seem to be a foolhardy investment. He’s a rehab job for a team with too many rehabbing players already.
We would have been best served by picking up some sure innings at MLB average, hoping for peak performance from Severino and Garcia. I believe getting a full season out of Kluber above MLB average to be a pipe dream. Yes. It’s been done before, but after two seasons of relative non-availability he’ll need to be protected to get through a season. We needed certain innings. ...
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Post by rizzuto on Jan 16, 2021 1:44:05 GMT -5
My apologies for not rejoicing....This is the pitching equivalent of signing Travis Hafner, Troy Tulowitzki, Brian Roberts, etc. Kluber hasn’t thrown meaningful innings since 2018. The losses of Masahiro Tanaka and James Paxton and (even Jay Happ) are significant. If the Yankees resign Tanaka, then I can accept taking a chance on Kluber. If not, then this is a mollifying move to the causal fan in not pursuing the best starting pitcher available in Bauer. Replacing Paxton and Tanaka with Bauer was the move to make it back to the World Series. I think Yankees are hoping that 150 innings of German and a 100 innings of Garcia will replace Happ & Paxton. Paxton only pitched 20 innings last season and he was terrible with a 6+ ERA and I hope I'm wrong, but he looks like a future surgery candidate to me. That wasn’t the plan for Paxton. You don’t look to replace what you ultimately received from an injured Paxton. You replace what Paxton was supposed to be, which was a top of the rotation starter. Holder could have produced 20 innings and a 6+ ERA. That should not be the goal. Innings are easy to replace. Quality starts are not. German hasn’t pitched in a year, and he has never thrown 150 innings in his career, yet. Even at his best, he’s pitched past the sixth inning only five times. Bauer pitched past the sixth inning eight times last season - in only eleven starts. If the Yankees are to have the highest payroll in MLB, then why piecemeal the most important part of a World Series team - the starting rotation? |
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Post by domeplease on Jan 16, 2021 17:01:32 GMT -5
At the beginning of FA Season I posted that we should sign Kluber -- But Inger Shot It Down & Really Hurt Tequila's Feelings.
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Post by inger on Jan 16, 2021 18:21:03 GMT -5
At the beginning of FA Season I posted that we should sign Kluber -- But Inger Shot It Down & Really Hurt Tequila's Feelings. Did her feathers ever grow back in after that? ... |
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 28, 2021 10:43:00 GMT -5
The Rays are just trolling the Yankees now. This should be interesting.
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Post by kaybli on Nov 28, 2021 11:23:07 GMT -5
The Rays are just trolling the Yankees now. This should be interesting. Its for 8 million. We'll see what happens I guess. Would love for the Yankees to do something, anything, before Dec 1st. |
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Post by kaybli on Nov 28, 2021 11:29:48 GMT -5
I'm not upset about not signing Kluber but I wish he didn't go to the Rays.
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Post by inger on Nov 28, 2021 11:36:04 GMT -5
I'm not upset about not signing Kluber but I wish he didn't go to the Rays. I thought we’d bring him back… So I’m a bit disappointed. Watch him make 34 starts for the Rays… |
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Post by rizzuto on Nov 28, 2021 11:59:07 GMT -5
So, does this mean that the Yankees made no offer to Kluber, or they simply didn’t make the best offer again? As I wrote previously, Kluber knows how to pitch and still has another season or two in the tank. I would have given him another one-year contract. If we were outbid by the Rays, though…”then I do not forgive.” (Don Corleone)
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Post by inger on Nov 28, 2021 12:11:04 GMT -5
So, does this mean that the Yankees made no offer to Kluber, or they simply didn’t make the best offer again? As I wrote previously, Kluber knows how to pitch and still has another season or two in the tank. I would have given him another one-year contract. If we were outbid by the Rays, though…”then I do not forgive.” (Don Corleone) Sleep with the fishes 🐟? Or horse head 🐴 in the bed? Shoot his 🐩 (only if it’s some foo-foo shit like a poodle. Got my limits, boss)… |
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Post by domeplease on Nov 28, 2021 12:54:18 GMT -5
...From a financial perspective, the $8MM owed to Kluber pushes the club’s 2022 payroll close to $84MM, in the estimation of Jason Martinez of Roster Resource.
This has the potential to be record-setting, as the Rays have never had an opening day payroll higher than $77MM, per Cot’s Baseball Contracts.
However, it’s also possible that number comes down after the team subtracts from their substantial arbitration class, either by non-tenders or trades. They already made one such move when they recently traded Jordan Luplow and his projected $1.5MM arbitration salary to the Diamondbacks.
OUR THOUGHTS: For that price maybe the Yanks should have resigned Kluber???!!! Was NOT in our Six-Year Plan.
What amazes us is that TB Payroll was under $77M and ours was over $200M; YET, TB spank us hard with Wins and Divisional Title. Plus they went to the WS with a Payroll of less than $80M.
So if TB Owners/GM can accomplish the above, WHY cannot our Owners/Gm do likewise??? Is the MGR. or is it ________________???
Our Six Year Plan called for being well under $175m and yet making two WS appearances within a six year period.
Beginning to think we could be at $300M/Year and still not make the WS.
"Tequila, please pass the bowl of mushrooms..."
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Post by noetsi on Dec 1, 2021 23:14:12 GMT -5
The stanton contract is a big reason for the high spending I suspect as was a bunch of players that never played (hicks, effectively voit and brittan (sp)).
Why we sign hicks who can never play is beyond me.
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