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Post by rizzuto on May 16, 2021 17:11:38 GMT -5
The only Yankee pitcher to not allow a run today was the Leaping Lefty Lucas Luetge! In fact, he allowed neither a hit nor a walk!
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Post by anthonyd46 on May 16, 2021 18:49:34 GMT -5
Angels came back and won so still 1 behind Boston in loss
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Post by rizzuto on May 16, 2021 21:42:47 GMT -5
Angels came back and won so still 1 behind Boston in loss Thanks to Trout’s single and Shobunny’s homer, which also tied Judge and two others for the major league lead with 12.
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Post by kaybli on May 17, 2021 8:10:49 GMT -5
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Post by pippsheadache on May 17, 2021 9:29:42 GMT -5
That is such a bizarre statistic. That means they are 19-7 otherwise. It's probably a statistical fluke. But it might be related to Boone's resting policy. Benching regulars on getaway days or before off days. Or maybe they just take their foot off the gas if they've already wrapped up a series, I don't know. If a discrepancy that huge lasts for the whole year, it seems less likely to be just happenstance.
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Post by rizzuto on May 17, 2021 13:46:49 GMT -5
Thank God for the Tigers.
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Post by rizzuto on May 17, 2021 13:49:21 GMT -5
That is such a bizarre statistic. That means they are 19-7 otherwise. It's probably a statistical fluke. But it might be related to Boone's resting policy. Benching regulars on getaway days or before off days. Or maybe they just take their foot off the gas if they've already wrapped up a series, I don't know. If a discrepancy that huge lasts for the whole year, it seems less likely to be just happenstance. This thought has occurred to me several times with regard to this team over the years, both in series and during games.
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Post by pippsheadache on May 17, 2021 14:15:57 GMT -5
That is such a bizarre statistic. That means they are 19-7 otherwise. It's probably a statistical fluke. But it might be related to Boone's resting policy. Benching regulars on getaway days or before off days. Or maybe they just take their foot off the gas if they've already wrapped up a series, I don't know. If a discrepancy that huge lasts for the whole year, it seems less likely to be just happenstance. This thought has occurred to me several times with regard to this team over the years, both in series and during games. Katie Sharp exhumes the coolest stats this side of Jayson Stark. I would never have the dogedness to find this particular number, but I have also had this annoying feeling that the Yankees sort of coast through the last game of a series if they've won their quota. Lack of a killer instinct is the way it would have been put in a less scientific but more realistic time.
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Post by rizzuto on May 17, 2021 14:46:24 GMT -5
This thought has occurred to me several times with regard to this team over the years, both in series and during games. Katie Sharp exhumes the coolest stats this side of Jayson Stark. I would never have the dogedness to find this particular number, but I have also had this annoying feeling that the Yankees sort of coast through the last game of a series if they've won their quota. Lack of a killer instinct is the way it would have been put in a less scientific but more realistic time. O’Neill has spoken several times of a championship team’s philosophy to get a lead and then put the other team away, essentially forcing the opponent to give up and having them thinking about tomorrow. Instead, this team’s management starts thinking about tomorrow before it gets a lead, resting players on a schedule, whether needed or not, irrespective of the player’s situation or opinion. In other words, the schedule dictates to the player, rather than the players’ health and performance influencing the schedule. Would you agree that the schedule has not stopped minor health issues or injury list stints? Britton, Clarke, Severino, Judge, Stanton, Torres, Urshela, Voit, Hicks, Odor...in only a quarter of the season played. There is something odd when a player will be rested following three strikeouts or three home runs, whether perfectly healthy or not. Some of the greatest performances in the history of sport have occurred when a player’s excellence and drive overcomes their physical condition. From Willis Reed to Mary Lou Retton to Kirk Gibson to Michael Jordan, not to mention the entire last couple years of Lou Gehrig, though you wouldn’t know from his statistics that he was actually dying.
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Post by pippsheadache on May 17, 2021 15:23:39 GMT -5
Katie Sharp exhumes the coolest stats this side of Jayson Stark. I would never have the dogedness to find this particular number, but I have also had this annoying feeling that the Yankees sort of coast through the last game of a series if they've won their quota. Lack of a killer instinct is the way it would have been put in a less scientific but more realistic time. O’Neill has spoken several times of a championship team’s philosophy to get a lead and then put the other team away, essentially forcing the opponent to give up and having them thinking about tomorrow. Instead, this team’s management starts thinking about tomorrow before it gets a lead, resting players on a schedule, whether needed or not, irrespective of the player’s situation or opinion. In other words, the schedule dictates to the player, rather than the players’ health and performance influencing the schedule. Would you agree that the schedule has not stopped minor health issues or injury list stints? Britton, Clarke, Severino, Judge, Stanton, Torres, Urshela, Voit, Hicks, Odor...in only a quarter of the season played. There is something odd when a player will be rested following three strikeouts or three home runs, whether perfectly healthy or not. Some of the greatest performances in the history of sport have occurred when a player’s excellence and drive overcomes their physical condition. From Willis Reed to Mary Lou Retton to Kirk Gibson to Michael Jordan, not to mention the entire last couple years of Lou Gehrig, though you wouldn’t know from his statistics that he was actually dying. Paul O'Neill has a lot of credibility on this subject. I know the example is overused, but most of Mickey Mantle's career would fall into that category. I like Stanton. He's very professional and I have no reason to believe that he is in any way a malingerer. It's just a combination of bad luck, extreme safetyism on the part of Yankee management and the apparent reality that at least in baseball it's more important to be a finely-tuned physical specimen who can bench press at Olympic levels than to merely be in shape to stay on the field. Supposedly the new Yankee strength and conditioning team understood this. For decades there was a sort of folk wisdom in baseball that heavy-duty weightlifting would diminish your ability to stay on the field. Looks like those primitives were right. Phil Rizzuto famously said that he never did stretching exercises or weightlifting and never pulled a muscle. Yeah, I know, he couldn't hit a ball 400 feet or maybe even 300 feet. But he had a Hall of Fame career and didn't spend a large part of his career nursing injuries either. Stanton's extreme inability to stay on the field in his prime years in the least physically demanding position in the sport is extremely frustrating. Hicks is a lost cause. And would anybody bet on Aaron Judge playing at least 150 games? Or even 140 games?
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Post by rizzuto on May 17, 2021 16:04:25 GMT -5
O’Neill has spoken several times of a championship team’s philosophy to get a lead and then put the other team away, essentially forcing the opponent to give up and having them thinking about tomorrow. Instead, this team’s management starts thinking about tomorrow before it gets a lead, resting players on a schedule, whether needed or not, irrespective of the player’s situation or opinion. In other words, the schedule dictates to the player, rather than the players’ health and performance influencing the schedule. Would you agree that the schedule has not stopped minor health issues or injury list stints? Britton, Clarke, Severino, Judge, Stanton, Torres, Urshela, Voit, Hicks, Odor...in only a quarter of the season played. There is something odd when a player will be rested following three strikeouts or three home runs, whether perfectly healthy or not. Some of the greatest performances in the history of sport have occurred when a player’s excellence and drive overcomes their physical condition. From Willis Reed to Mary Lou Retton to Kirk Gibson to Michael Jordan, not to mention the entire last couple years of Lou Gehrig, though you wouldn’t know from his statistics that he was actually dying. Paul O'Neill has a lot of credibility on this subject. I know the example is overused, but most of Mickey Mantle's career would fall into that category. I like Stanton. He's very professional and I have no reason to believe that he is in any way a malingerer. It's just a combination of bad luck, extreme safetyism on the part of Yankee management and the apparent reality that at least in baseball it's more important to be a finely-tuned physical specimen who can bench press at Olympic levels than to merely be in shape to stay on the field. Supposedly the new Yankee strength and conditioning team understood this. For decades there was a sort of folk wisdom in baseball that heavy-duty weightlifting would diminish your ability to stay on the field. Looks like those primitives were right. Phil Rizzuto famously said that he never did stretching exercises or weightlifting and never pulled a muscle. Yeah, I know, he couldn't hit a ball 400 feet or maybe even 300 feet. But he had a Hall of Fame career and didn't spend a large part of his career nursing injuries either. Stanton's extreme inability to stay on the field in his prime years in the least physically demanding position in the sport is extremely frustrating. Hicks is a lost cause. And would anybody bet on Aaron Judge playing at least 150 games? Or even 140 games? The over-training certainly must be considered. Is there a correlation between the emphasis on core strength and the recent spate of oblique pulls and strains? Henry Aaron would have hit 514 home runs in his career, but his abs would have been glorious. I wonder what Ted Williams would have thought of hitting a tractor tire with a sledge hammer?
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Post by pippsheadache on May 17, 2021 16:27:47 GMT -5
You nailed it Rizz. Hank Aaron, Ted Williams, Stan Musial, Mel Ott, Ernie Banks, Willie Mays, Mike Schmidt -- not bulked up enough, gotta hit the training room if they hope to amount to anything. Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, Mickey Mantle, Frank Thomas -- plenty of muscle, but just imagine how good they could be with the Yankees strength and conditioning regimen.
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