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Post by rizzuto on Mar 1, 2022 0:02:56 GMT -5
By the way, back to Freddie Couples. Yet another personality. Pretty swing, beautiful regularly used smile. Such a strong, wholesome image. Payne Stewart. Who will be the next to don a kilt or petit fours? For those who didn’t like my pal, the Shark, wouldn’t he be a great flavor to add to todays cluster of players? I recall watching a tournament where the announcing team and cameras were focused on him during other golfers turns because he was knelt down, watching something in a small creek. Like “what is he doing? Why is he doing that?” And for those who needed a villain, he made a good one. Arnie vs. Jack beat any WWF (later WWE) rivalry in color)… They were more special than we ever knew back then. The same in the 80’s to a great extent. The Corey Pavins could still survive with 220-240 yard tee shots. But Tiger was coming, and the game would never be the same… I think you mean Plus Fours, Mr. Ambien. Petit fours are tiny cakes eaten during cocktail parties at villas on Lake Como.  |
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Post by inger on Mar 1, 2022 0:35:04 GMT -5
By the way, back to Freddie Couples. Yet another personality. Pretty swing, beautiful regularly used smile. Such a strong, wholesome image. Payne Stewart. Who will be the next to don a kilt or petit fours? For those who didn’t like my pal, the Shark, wouldn’t he be a great flavor to add to todays cluster of players? I recall watching a tournament where the announcing team and cameras were focused on him during other golfers turns because he was knelt down, watching something in a small creek. Like “what is he doing? Why is he doing that?” And for those who needed a villain, he made a good one. Arnie vs. Jack beat any WWF (later WWE) rivalry in color)… They were more special than we ever knew back then. The same in the 80’s to a great extent. The Corey Pavins could still survive with 220-240 yard tee shots. But Tiger was coming, and the game would never be the same… I think you mean Plus Fours, Mr. Ambien. Petit fours are tiny cakes eaten during cocktail parties at villas on Lake Como.  Well, then it would take even more courage to wear the petit fours than I was thinking it would. What a nice little Fox Paws, huh? I recall my poor older brother who had attended a cocktail party at a yacht club that his wife insisted on going to. He was punching well above his social weight. The day after he complained that he about starved to death. All they had was little sandwiches called <sic> Whores devours… lol. When I told him the correct pronunciation he laughed and was quite embarrassed. I wonder if he asked anyone for more whores devours or commented on the taste to the hostess? He wasn’t that prone to malapropism, but my other older brother, who is still living, unleashes them constantly and simply seems to not have a clue. Yes. Payne wore plus fours. Thanks for catching that and providing a bit more humor. I’m still on Social Media at 10:33. Just popped the old Ambien… I prefer to stay up an hour after taking it. .. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 1, 2022 13:54:09 GMT -5
Freddy Couples had the prettiest swing this side of Sammy Snead. Effortless power. If only his back would have cooperated. He was a joy to watch in person. I saw him at Pebble Beach hit number 18 in two, after using a three-wood off the tee. Jack did the same with a driver off the tee...at like age 58. They were the only two players to hit that green in two that day. Even in his 70s, Arnie had the biggest following at the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. Arnie's Army was in full swing thirty years after his last major. I never forgave Watson for chipping in at number 17 on Jack at the US Open at Pebble Beach. The talent in those Watson Popeye forearms. Throw in a couple Lee Trevino magical rounds, and Jack is over 20 major championships. So much talent at the top level of the PGA tour in the 1970s. The leaderboards were like a list of Hall of Fame baseball players. So many talented golfers who were just playing in the wrong era with Jack Nicklaus, Tom Watson, and Lee Trevino: Tom Weiskopf, Johnny Miller, Hale Irwin, Raymond Floyd, Gene Littler, Billy Casper, Bruce Crampton, Hubert Green, Don January, Art Wall, Jr., Bruce Leitzke, Jerry Pate, Lanny Wadkins, Ben Crenshaw, etc. It was like the NBA of the 1980s. Ambivalence would aptly describe my feeling for Greg Norman. He had the talent to win double digit majors, but he kept finding ways to lose. No one hit the ball as far and dead solid straight as Norman. Incredible athlete. Somehow, with each passing year he became less likable. What he should have been as a golfer, he became as a businessman. He owns everything from golf balls to wineries. Now that's a nice walk down Memory Lane, Rizz. I would also throw in Gary Player, even though I think of him as more of a 60s guy and he turned 35 in 1970. He won four Majors and 12 PGA events overall in the 1970s, despite playing a more limited PGA schedule. A few more names from that decade -- putting guru Dave Stockton, John Mahaffey and Lou Graham. I only bring up Graham because in 1979 I was at the now-defunct IVB-Philadelphia Classic and saw Graham defeat Lanny Wadkins's younger brother Bobby in a playoff. I didn't go to a lot of PGA events until maybe 25 years ago, but I'm so glad I went to that one because the field included Nicklaus, Watson, Trevino, Irwin, Green and Floyd, among others. There was also Aussie David Graham in that period. Yeah, Watson busted Jack in close ones a few times in the majors -- the one you mentioned and the British "Duel In The Sun" in 1977. But Trevino three times beat Jack by one stroke or in a playoff in Majors. These were just battles of Titans. I've said many times that nearly as amazing as The Bear's 18 Majors is the 19 runners-up in Majors. I was reading about how gracious Jack was to Tom after the 77 Open, putting his arm around him and telling him that he'd given his best shot but it wasn't enough. But after the 82 US Open loss, Jack's first comment to Tom was "You little sonofabitch." In both cases, of course, le mot juste and understood as such. The immortals know how to handle those situations, as Bobby Jones had earlier instructed Jack. And Watson returned the favor after the gut-punching loss to Stuart Cink in the 2009 Open. The most heartbreaking athletic event I think I've ever seen. It still irritates me, and I know Cink just happened to be the beneficiary, but I kind of hold it against him a little bit. Tom's iron shot on 18 that looked so promising -- just a bit too much club -- almost 60 years old -- almost a sixth Open. Ugh. And kudos for bringing up Hubert Green. Maybe one of the more forgotten greats from that time. Hunched way over on his putts. Hale Irwin, just so consistent. And speaking of consistency, that reminds me of another one from that time -- Sam Snead's nephew J.C. Snead. He wasn't winning a lot of tournaments, but he made a fortune by coming in top ten week after week. Yes, and Gene Littler. Gene The Machine. I tend to think of him as a 50s and 60s guy -- he was born in 1930 -- but you're right, he was still putting up some great numbers well into the 1970s. Like his fellow San Diegan and good pal Billy Casper. Casper may be the most under-appreciated elite golfer ever. Fifty-one tour victories. Three majors. Even in his prime he was regarded by many golf fans somewhat as background noise -- pudgy, colorless, played mainly to avoid mistakes rather than hit bravura shots. I have his autobiography, "The Big Three and Me." He still comes across that way! Johnny Miller in the early-to-mid-1970s was almost Jack/Tiger level good. As he would be the first to tell you. Except he might leave out "almost." What a phenom he was. Then he lost it for years, made a brief rally, then the physical issues finished him off. Man he was fun to watch. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 1, 2022 14:42:04 GMT -5
To me, todays golfers are nearly indistinguishable from each other. A bunch of robots programmed for this moment since they were 3 years old… There is little to distinguish one from another. Where is the fat guy? How about that little short hitter that played incredible fairway woods? The tiny guy with shocking pop(Watson)? Wait! There’s Arnie! He actually has ripped, powerful looking forearms and takes a lusty swing! Now, they’re all ripped from gym work. They don’t say much. The “short” hitters hit the ball only 320 yards. Wedges at 150-160. It’s actually a bit sad and boring, which is keeping me from redeveloping a relationship for the sport. I watch once in a while. I often switch away with the first half hour of watching… Well put, Inger. So many of them seem like they had the same instructors, the same swing, the same approach. I often feel like I'm watching the course more than the cookie-cutter players. I have no doubt there are more really good golfers on the tour now than ever -- the internationalization of the game alone dictates that -- but great golfers? I don't think so. Every time it seems like there could be a breakout guy -- the next Tiger or the next Phil -- they seem to recede after a hot couple of seasons. McIlroy, Spieth, Koepka, DeChambeau, Dustin Johnson, Jon Rahm, Justin Thomas -- all outstanding golfers, but they never seem to separate from the pack for an extended period and most of them are rather colorless. I guess Rory and Bryson have some pizzazz -- some -- and Dustin Johnson has the drug/Gretzky connection to help him stand out, but mostly they just seem bland to me. Patrick Reed perhaps, but he's such an a-hole that I can't pull for him. The demise of the roly-poly -- there was Angel Cabrera with his overhanging gut and cigars, but he's in prison now for some domestic abuse issue, so there goes that one. The Thai guy Aphibarnrat had an ample paunch last time I saw him, but he's not near the head of the class. Well, there is Shane Lowry doing well for a porker. Nobody at the level of Craig Stadler or John Daly or Billy Casper or the young Jack Nicklaus. Did you ever play at Porky Oliver's course just north of Wilmington? He was a truly great Round Mound in the 40s and 50s -- finished runner-up at The Masters, US Open and PGA, losing twice to Ben Hogan and once to Julius Boros. A fun guy who embraced his flab. Unfortunately died at 46 from cancer. He was 5'9" and 240 in his prime. |
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Post by inger on Mar 1, 2022 15:18:43 GMT -5
To me, todays golfers are nearly indistinguishable from each other. A bunch of robots programmed for this moment since they were 3 years old… There is little to distinguish one from another. Where is the fat guy? How about that little short hitter that played incredible fairway woods? The tiny guy with shocking pop(Watson)? Wait! There’s Arnie! He actually has ripped, powerful looking forearms and takes a lusty swing! Now, they’re all ripped from gym work. They don’t say much. The “short” hitters hit the ball only 320 yards. Wedges at 150-160. It’s actually a bit sad and boring, which is keeping me from redeveloping a relationship for the sport. I watch once in a while. I often switch away with the first half hour of watching… Well put, Inger. So many of them seem like they had the same instructors, the same swing, the same approach. I often feel like I'm watching the course more than the cookie-cutter players. I have no doubt there are more really good golfers on the tour now than ever -- the internationalization of the game alone dictates that -- but great golfers? I don't think so. Every time it seems like there could be a breakout guy -- the next Tiger or the next Phil -- they seem to recede after a hot couple of seasons. McIlroy, Spieth, Koepka, DeChambeau, Dustin Johnson, Jon Rahm, Justin Thomas -- all outstanding golfers, but they never seem to separate from the pack for an extended period and most of them are rather colorless. I guess Rory and Bryson have some pizzazz -- some -- and Dustin Johnson has the drug/Gretzky connection to help him stand out, but mostly they just seem bland to me. Patrick Reed perhaps, but he's such an a-hole that I can't pull for him. The demise of the roly-poly -- there was Angel Cabrera with his overhanging gut and cigars, but he's in prison now for some domestic abuse issue, so there goes that one. The Thai guy Aphibarnrat had an ample paunch last time I saw him, but he's not near the head of the class. Well, there is Shane Lowry doing well for a porker. Nobody at the level of Craig Stadler or John Daly or Billy Casper or the young Jack Nicklaus. Did you ever play at Porky Oliver's course just north of Wilmington? He was a truly great Round Mound in the 40s and 50s -- finished runner-up at The Masters, US Open and PGA, losing twice to Ben Hogan and once to Julius Boros. A fun guy who embraced his flab. Unfortunately died at 46 from cancer. He was 5'9" and 240 in his prime. Somehow I missed Porky’s course. I would drive by on occasion. I’m thinking that if we didn’t have free golf at the old Brandywine course in Elkton, MD we would have played at more courses. We got around a bit, and went as far as Jaworski’s course (name is escaping me). We talked about playing Porky’s. It just never happened. In my imagination I definitely haven’t suspected Porky of being 6’4” and 165 pounds… 🤓. The whole world loves a fat boy… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 1, 2022 15:53:21 GMT -5
Well put, Inger. So many of them seem like they had the same instructors, the same swing, the same approach. I often feel like I'm watching the course more than the cookie-cutter players. I have no doubt there are more really good golfers on the tour now than ever -- the internationalization of the game alone dictates that -- but great golfers? I don't think so. Every time it seems like there could be a breakout guy -- the next Tiger or the next Phil -- they seem to recede after a hot couple of seasons. McIlroy, Spieth, Koepka, DeChambeau, Dustin Johnson, Jon Rahm, Justin Thomas -- all outstanding golfers, but they never seem to separate from the pack for an extended period and most of them are rather colorless. I guess Rory and Bryson have some pizzazz -- some -- and Dustin Johnson has the drug/Gretzky connection to help him stand out, but mostly they just seem bland to me. Patrick Reed perhaps, but he's such an a-hole that I can't pull for him. The demise of the roly-poly -- there was Angel Cabrera with his overhanging gut and cigars, but he's in prison now for some domestic abuse issue, so there goes that one. The Thai guy Aphibarnrat had an ample paunch last time I saw him, but he's not near the head of the class. Well, there is Shane Lowry doing well for a porker. Nobody at the level of Craig Stadler or John Daly or Billy Casper or the young Jack Nicklaus. Did you ever play at Porky Oliver's course just north of Wilmington? He was a truly great Round Mound in the 40s and 50s -- finished runner-up at The Masters, US Open and PGA, losing twice to Ben Hogan and once to Julius Boros. A fun guy who embraced his flab. Unfortunately died at 46 from cancer. He was 5'9" and 240 in his prime. Somehow I missed Porky’s course. I would drive by on occasion. I’m thinking that if we didn’t have free golf at the old Brandywine course in Elkton, MD we would have played at more courses. We got around a bit, and went as far as Jaworski’s course (name is escaping me). We talked about playing Porky’s. It just never happened. In my imagination I definitely haven’t suspected Porky of being 6’4” and 165 pounds… 🤓. The whole world loves a fat boy… Jaws has a bunch of courses. There's one in Downingtown -- a bunch in NJ, I think his signature course is Blue Heron Pines near the Jersey Shore, but he has about six or seven. He did pretty well for a boy from Youngstown Ohio who was booed mercilessly as a player but immediately became beloved as soon as he retired. That happens a lot in Philly. |
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Post by domeplease on Mar 1, 2022 16:15:27 GMT -5
To me, todays golfers are nearly indistinguishable from each other. A bunch of robots programmed for this moment since they were 3 years old… There is little to distinguish one from another. Where is the fat guy? How about that little short hitter that played incredible fairway woods? The tiny guy with shocking pop(Watson)? Wait! There’s Arnie! He actually has ripped, powerful looking forearms and takes a lusty swing! Now, they’re all ripped from gym work. They don’t say much. The “short” hitters hit the ball only 320 yards. Wedges at 150-160. It’s actually a bit sad and boring, which is keeping me from redeveloping a relationship for the sport. I watch once in a while. I often switch away with the first half hour of watching… Well put, Inger. So many of them seem like they had the same instructors, the same swing, the same approach. I often feel like I'm watching the course more than the cookie-cutter players. I have no doubt there are more really good golfers on the tour now than ever -- the internationalization of the game alone dictates that -- but great golfers? I don't think so. Every time it seems like there could be a breakout guy -- the next Tiger or the next Phil -- they seem to recede after a hot couple of seasons. McIlroy, Spieth, Koepka, DeChambeau, Dustin Johnson, Jon Rahm, Justin Thomas -- all outstanding golfers, but they never seem to separate from the pack for an extended period and most of them are rather colorless. I guess Rory and Bryson have some pizzazz -- some -- and Dustin Johnson has the drug/Gretzky connection to help him stand out, but mostly they just seem bland to me. Patrick Reed perhaps, but he's such an a-hole that I can't pull for him. The demise of the roly-poly -- there was Angel Cabrera with his overhanging gut and cigars, but he's in prison now for some domestic abuse issue, so there goes that one. The Thai guy Aphibarnrat had an ample paunch last time I saw him, but he's not near the head of the class. Well, there is Shane Lowry doing well for a porker. Nobody at the level of Craig Stadler or John Daly or Billy Casper or the young Jack Nicklaus. Did you ever play at Porky Oliver's course just north of Wilmington? He was a truly great Round Mound in the 40s and 50s -- finished runner-up at The Masters, US Open and PGA, losing twice to Ben Hogan and once to Julius Boros. A fun guy who embraced his flab. Unfortunately died at 46 from cancer. He was 5'9" and 240 in his prime. I think you all maybe might be surprised by some of these new players may turn out GREAT...
"...So many of them seem like they had the same instructors, the same swing, the same approach. I often feel like I'm watching the course more than the cookie-cutter players. I have no doubt there are more really good golfers on the tour now than ever -- the internationalization of the game alone dictates that -- but great golfers? I don't think so. Every time it seems like there could be a breakout guy -- the next Tiger or the next Phil -- they seem to recede after a hot couple of seasons. McIlroy, Spieth, Koepka, DeChambeau, Dustin Johnson, Jon Rahm, Justin Thomas -- all outstanding golfers, but they never seem to separate from the pack for an extended period and most of them are rather colorless. I guess Rory and Bryson have some pizzazz -- some -- and Dustin Johnson has the drug/Gretzky connection to help him stand out, but mostly they just seem bland to me. Patrick Reed perhaps, but he's such an a-hole that I can't pull for him."
WE think Rahm could be one of the Great Ones (but who knows???). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Speaking of EX-Great Ones (giggles in background...go figure): Today's Mick article--No Ryder Cup Captian for Mick (more giggles)
Column: Mickelson might not have time he needs to recover.
...But now?
Lovable Lefty has an entirely different reputation.
Becoming golf's oldest major champion at age 50 by winning the PGA Championship now seems a lot longer than nine months ago.
Fresh on the mind are his comments to longtime golf writer Alan Shipnuck, who is writing an unauthorized biography on Mickelson.
While flirting with a Saudi-funded rival league, Mickelson referred to the Saudis as “scary mother(expletives) to get involved with."
“We know they killed (Washington Post reporter Jamal) Khashoggi and have a horrible record on human rights," Mickelson was quoted as saying. "They execute people over there for being gay.
Knowing all of this, why would I even consider it? Because this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reshape how the PGA Tour operates.”
He also said he didn't care if the rival league succeeded as long as it provided him leverage against the “dictatorship” of Commissioner Jay Monahan and the PGA Tour.
DO ME NOTE = This Dictatorship made him well over $100M-$200M PLUS in Winnings, Endorsements, ADS, Equipment, etc. etc. etc. I would LOVE to work/play for this Dictatorship (more giggles)
If that wasn't enough, Mickelson said he and three other top players paid attorneys to write the operating agreement for the rival league.
Four of his corporate partners — KPMG, American Express, Amstel Light and Workday — no longer want to work with him. Callaway Golf said it was pausing the relationship.
...Mickelson mentioned the pressure and stress of the last 10 years and said that he “desperately” need time away. And that's the problem as he tries to recover from the mess he created.
Time is what Mickelson doesn't have.
The swift and stunning downfalls of Mickelson and Tiger Woods are nothing alike except for the damage to their public image. Woods sabotaged his personal life. Mickelson tried to sabotage the tour that made him rich and famous.
...Shipnuck's book is due to be released in May. Another book is planned for the fall by noted sports gambler Billy Walters, with whom Mickelson was linked in an insider trading episode.
It ended with Mickelson, a relief defendant, repaying the government the $1 million he made in the stock deal and Walters going to prison.
The next Ryder Cup in Italy is 19 months away. Bethpage Black is two years after that, and given how Woods will now play a limited schedule at best, he makes the most sense as the U.S. captain in 2025.
Where does Mickelson fit in?
That depends how quickly he can recover, if at all.
NOTE: Cannot wait READ the BOOK coming out about Mick
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Post by inger on Mar 1, 2022 16:31:13 GMT -5
Well put, Inger. So many of them seem like they had the same instructors, the same swing, the same approach. I often feel like I'm watching the course more than the cookie-cutter players. I have no doubt there are more really good golfers on the tour now than ever -- the internationalization of the game alone dictates that -- but great golfers? I don't think so. Every time it seems like there could be a breakout guy -- the next Tiger or the next Phil -- they seem to recede after a hot couple of seasons. McIlroy, Spieth, Koepka, DeChambeau, Dustin Johnson, Jon Rahm, Justin Thomas -- all outstanding golfers, but they never seem to separate from the pack for an extended period and most of them are rather colorless. I guess Rory and Bryson have some pizzazz -- some -- and Dustin Johnson has the drug/Gretzky connection to help him stand out, but mostly they just seem bland to me. Patrick Reed perhaps, but he's such an a-hole that I can't pull for him. The demise of the roly-poly -- there was Angel Cabrera with his overhanging gut and cigars, but he's in prison now for some domestic abuse issue, so there goes that one. The Thai guy Aphibarnrat had an ample paunch last time I saw him, but he's not near the head of the class. Well, there is Shane Lowry doing well for a porker. Nobody at the level of Craig Stadler or John Daly or Billy Casper or the young Jack Nicklaus. Did you ever play at Porky Oliver's course just north of Wilmington? He was a truly great Round Mound in the 40s and 50s -- finished runner-up at The Masters, US Open and PGA, losing twice to Ben Hogan and once to Julius Boros. A fun guy who embraced his flab. Unfortunately died at 46 from cancer. He was 5'9" and 240 in his prime. I think you all maybe might be surprised by some of these new players may turn out GREAT...
"...So many of them seem like they had the same instructors, the same swing, the same approach. I often feel like I'm watching the course more than the cookie-cutter players. I have no doubt there are more really good golfers on the tour now than ever -- the internationalization of the game alone dictates that -- but great golfers? I don't think so. Every time it seems like there could be a breakout guy -- the next Tiger or the next Phil -- they seem to recede after a hot couple of seasons. McIlroy, Spieth, Koepka, DeChambeau, Dustin Johnson, Jon Rahm, Justin Thomas -- all outstanding golfers, but they never seem to separate from the pack for an extended period and most of them are rather colorless. I guess Rory and Bryson have some pizzazz -- some -- and Dustin Johnson has the drug/Gretzky connection to help him stand out, but mostly they just seem bland to me. Patrick Reed perhaps, but he's such an a-hole that I can't pull for him."
WE think Rahm could be one of the Great Ones (but who knows???). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Speaking of EX-Great Ones (giggles in background...go figure): Today's Mick article--No Ryder Cup Captian for Mick (more giggles)
Column: Mickelson might not have time he needs to recover.
...But now?
Lovable Lefty has an entirely different reputation.
Becoming golf's oldest major champion at age 50 by winning the PGA Championship now seems a lot longer than nine months ago.
Fresh on the mind are his comments to longtime golf writer Alan Shipnuck, who is writing an unauthorized biography on Mickelson.
While flirting with a Saudi-funded rival league, Mickelson referred to the Saudis as “scary mother(expletives) to get involved with."
“We know they killed (Washington Post reporter Jamal) Khashoggi and have a horrible record on human rights," Mickelson was quoted as saying. "They execute people over there for being gay.
Knowing all of this, why would I even consider it? Because this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reshape how the PGA Tour operates.”
He also said he didn't care if the rival league succeeded as long as it provided him leverage against the “dictatorship” of Commissioner Jay Monahan and the PGA Tour.
DO ME NOTE = This Dictatorship made him well over $100M-$200M PLUS in Winnings, Endorsements, ADS, Equipment, etc. etc. etc. I would LOVE to work/play for this Dictatorship (more giggles)
If that wasn't enough, Mickelson said he and three other top players paid attorneys to write the operating agreement for the rival league.
Four of his corporate partners — KPMG, American Express, Amstel Light and Workday — no longer want to work with him. Callaway Golf said it was pausing the relationship.
...Mickelson mentioned the pressure and stress of the last 10 years and said that he “desperately” need time away. And that's the problem as he tries to recover from the mess he created.
Time is what Mickelson doesn't have.
The swift and stunning downfalls of Mickelson and Tiger Woods are nothing alike except for the damage to their public image. Woods sabotaged his personal life. Mickelson tried to sabotage the tour that made him rich and famous.
...Shipnuck's book is due to be released in May. Another book is planned for the fall by noted sports gambler Billy Walters, with whom Mickelson was linked in an insider trading episode.
It ended with Mickelson, a relief defendant, repaying the government the $1 million he made in the stock deal and Walters going to prison.
The next Ryder Cup in Italy is 19 months away. Bethpage Black is two years after that, and given how Woods will now play a limited schedule at best, he makes the most sense as the U.S. captain in 2025.
Where does Mickelson fit in?
That depends how quickly he can recover, if at all.
NOTE: Cannot wait READ the BOOK coming out about Mick
I’m going to wait for the movie. Rumored titles include “The Parrot and Me.”… |
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Post by domeplease on Mar 1, 2022 16:50:43 GMT -5
I think you all maybe might be surprised by some of these new players may turn out GREAT...
"...So many of them seem like they had the same instructors, the same swing, the same approach. I often feel like I'm watching the course more than the cookie-cutter players. I have no doubt there are more really good golfers on the tour now than ever -- the internationalization of the game alone dictates that -- but great golfers? I don't think so. Every time it seems like there could be a breakout guy -- the next Tiger or the next Phil -- they seem to recede after a hot couple of seasons. McIlroy, Spieth, Koepka, DeChambeau, Dustin Johnson, Jon Rahm, Justin Thomas -- all outstanding golfers, but they never seem to separate from the pack for an extended period and most of them are rather colorless. I guess Rory and Bryson have some pizzazz -- some -- and Dustin Johnson has the drug/Gretzky connection to help him stand out, but mostly they just seem bland to me. Patrick Reed perhaps, but he's such an a-hole that I can't pull for him."
WE think Rahm could be one of the Great Ones (but who knows???). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Speaking of EX-Great Ones (giggles in background...go figure): Today's Mick article--No Ryder Cup Captian for Mick (more giggles)
Column: Mickelson might not have time he needs to recover.
...But now?
Lovable Lefty has an entirely different reputation.
Becoming golf's oldest major champion at age 50 by winning the PGA Championship now seems a lot longer than nine months ago.
Fresh on the mind are his comments to longtime golf writer Alan Shipnuck, who is writing an unauthorized biography on Mickelson.
While flirting with a Saudi-funded rival league, Mickelson referred to the Saudis as “scary mother(expletives) to get involved with."
“We know they killed (Washington Post reporter Jamal) Khashoggi and have a horrible record on human rights," Mickelson was quoted as saying. "They execute people over there for being gay.
Knowing all of this, why would I even consider it? Because this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reshape how the PGA Tour operates.”
He also said he didn't care if the rival league succeeded as long as it provided him leverage against the “dictatorship” of Commissioner Jay Monahan and the PGA Tour.
DO ME NOTE = This Dictatorship made him well over $100M-$200M PLUS in Winnings, Endorsements, ADS, Equipment, etc. etc. etc. I would LOVE to work/play for this Dictatorship (more giggles)
If that wasn't enough, Mickelson said he and three other top players paid attorneys to write the operating agreement for the rival league.
Four of his corporate partners — KPMG, American Express, Amstel Light and Workday — no longer want to work with him. Callaway Golf said it was pausing the relationship.
...Mickelson mentioned the pressure and stress of the last 10 years and said that he “desperately” need time away. And that's the problem as he tries to recover from the mess he created.
Time is what Mickelson doesn't have.
The swift and stunning downfalls of Mickelson and Tiger Woods are nothing alike except for the damage to their public image. Woods sabotaged his personal life. Mickelson tried to sabotage the tour that made him rich and famous.
...Shipnuck's book is due to be released in May. Another book is planned for the fall by noted sports gambler Billy Walters, with whom Mickelson was linked in an insider trading episode.
It ended with Mickelson, a relief defendant, repaying the government the $1 million he made in the stock deal and Walters going to prison.
The next Ryder Cup in Italy is 19 months away. Bethpage Black is two years after that, and given how Woods will now play a limited schedule at best, he makes the most sense as the U.S. captain in 2025.
Where does Mickelson fit in?
That depends how quickly he can recover, if at all.
NOTE: Cannot wait READ the BOOK coming out about Mick
I’m going to wait for the movie. Rumored titles include “The Parrot and Me.”… Tequila prefers:
'The Parrot Who Would Be King (Dictator)'
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Post by inger on Mar 1, 2022 16:57:16 GMT -5
I’m going to wait for the movie. Rumored titles include “The Parrot and Me.”… Tequila prefers:
'The Parrot Who Would Be King (Dictator)'
There was a very attractive girl that went to high school with me. She looked like a beautiful, full grown woman by the time she was about 15 or 16. She was a bit stuck up, though not as bad as some. She knew what she had going for her. I noticed she has a Facebook account, but no photos of herself. I wonder if vanity is a factor?… |
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 1, 2022 18:48:56 GMT -5
Freddy Couples had the prettiest swing this side of Sammy Snead. Effortless power. If only his back would have cooperated. He was a joy to watch in person. I saw him at Pebble Beach hit number 18 in two, after using a three-wood off the tee. Jack did the same with a driver off the tee...at like age 58. They were the only two players to hit that green in two that day. Even in his 70s, Arnie had the biggest following at the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. Arnie's Army was in full swing thirty years after his last major. I never forgave Watson for chipping in at number 17 on Jack at the US Open at Pebble Beach. The talent in those Watson Popeye forearms. Throw in a couple Lee Trevino magical rounds, and Jack is over 20 major championships. So much talent at the top level of the PGA tour in the 1970s. The leaderboards were like a list of Hall of Fame baseball players. So many talented golfers who were just playing in the wrong era with Jack Nicklaus, Tom Watson, and Lee Trevino: Tom Weiskopf, Johnny Miller, Hale Irwin, Raymond Floyd, Gene Littler, Billy Casper, Bruce Crampton, Hubert Green, Don January, Art Wall, Jr., Bruce Leitzke, Jerry Pate, Lanny Wadkins, Ben Crenshaw, etc. It was like the NBA of the 1980s. Ambivalence would aptly describe my feeling for Greg Norman. He had the talent to win double digit majors, but he kept finding ways to lose. No one hit the ball as far and dead solid straight as Norman. Incredible athlete. Somehow, with each passing year he became less likable. What he should have been as a golfer, he became as a businessman. He owns everything from golf balls to wineries. Now that's a nice walk down Memory Lane, Rizz. I would also throw in Gary Player, even though I think of him as more of a 60s guy and he turned 35 in 1970. He won four Majors and 12 PGA events overall in the 1970s, despite playing a more limited PGA schedule. A few more names from that decade -- putting guru Dave Stockton, John Mahaffey and Lou Graham. I only bring up Graham because in 1979 I was at the now-defunct IVB-Philadelphia Classic and saw Graham defeat Lanny Wadkins's younger brother Bobby in a playoff. I didn't go to a lot of PGA events until maybe 25 years ago, but I'm so glad I went to that one because the field included Nicklaus, Watson, Trevino, Irwin, Green and Floyd, among others. There was also Aussie David Graham in that period. Yeah, Watson busted Jack in close ones a few times in the majors -- the one you mentioned and the British "Duel In The Sun" in 1977. But Trevino three times beat Jack by one stroke or in a playoff in Majors. These were just battles of Titans. I've said many times that nearly as amazing as The Bear's 18 Majors is the 19 runners-up in Majors. I was reading about how gracious Jack was to Tom after the 77 Open, putting his arm around him and telling him that he'd given his best shot but it wasn't enough. But after the 82 US Open loss, Jack's first comment to Tom was "You little sonofabitch." In both cases, of course, le mot juste and understood as such. The immortals know how to handle those situations, as Bobby Jones had earlier instructed Jack. And Watson returned the favor after the gut-punching loss to Stuart Cink in the 2009 Open. The most heartbreaking athletic event I think I've ever seen. It still irritates me, and I know Cink just happened to be the beneficiary, but I kind of hold it against him a little bit. Tom's iron shot on 18 that looked so promising -- just a bit too much club -- almost 60 years old -- almost a sixth Open. Ugh. And kudos for bringing up Hubert Green. Maybe one of the more forgotten greats from that time. Hunched way over on his putts. Hale Irwin, just so consistent. And speaking of consistency, that reminds me of another one from that time -- Sam Snead's nephew J.C. Snead. He wasn't winning a lot of tournaments, but he made a fortune by coming in top ten week after week. Yes, and Gene Littler. Gene The Machine. I tend to think of him as a 50s and 60s guy -- he was born in 1930 -- but you're right, he was still putting up some great numbers well into the 1970s. Like his fellow San Diegan and good pal Billy Casper. Casper may be the most under-appreciated elite golfer ever. Fifty-one tour victories. Three majors. Even in his prime he was regarded by many golf fans somewhat as background noise -- pudgy, colorless, played mainly to avoid mistakes rather than hit bravura shots. I have his autobiography, "The Big Three and Me." He still comes across that way! Johnny Miller in the early-to-mid-1970s was almost Jack/Tiger level good. As he would be the first to tell you. Except he might leave out "almost." What a phenom he was. Then he lost it for years, made a brief rally, then the physical issues finished him off. Man he was fun to watch. What a memory you have, Pipps! Gary Player is definitely an oversight on my part. The Black Knight was on the Mount Rushmore of golfers of that era, along with Palmer and Nicklaus. Billy Casper is indeed the most underrated golfer in PGA history and arguably one of the best putters ever in the history of the game. There were so many golfers in the 1960s and 1970s who just knew how to win down the stretch. Outside of Tiger and Phil and the several two or three-year run golfers, too many tournaments down to the wire become battles of bogey attrition. Backing into wins, rather than taking the trophy. Many thought Johnny Miller was the next Nicklaus, mostly because of the blonde hair, but nobody was as lethal with irons like Miller in his prime, except for Bryon Nelson. Whereas Nicklaus could putt from anywhere, Miller just eliminated the worry by tapping in lasers that landed within inches of the flag. I love the passing of the baton of the greats in golf history. Anyone who saw Bobby Jones play golf - when he was healthy - knew they were watching something different. The way he carried himself set the code of comportment on the course for a generation and the next. Palmer and Jack were pitted against each other by fans and sports writers. As Nicklaus once remarked, "I had to worry about fighting Arnie's Army, but I never had to worry about fighting Palmer." The two were close friends who loved the competition but it ended after the round. Arnie and Jack always had their priorities happily in order, in large part to the love and guidance of their fathers. One of my favorite stories was a teenage Arnold Palmer watching his father being dressed down by a muckity-muck who complained about him letting his son occasionally hit balls on the course. Palmer later bought the golf course. How's that for winning the long game? Nicklaus has stories about Ben Hogan seeking him out to play practice rounds, except Hogan never wanted to putt out. He just wanted to play Jack tee to green. Speaking of story tellers, none were better than Gene Sarazen, who could go back to Harry Vardon - another giant of the game. I miss playing golf. On the way to my sister's house, I always pass a golf course on the way and memories just flood into mind. Tomorrow afternoon, I have a second interview for a job. If it all works out, I'll be a huge step closer to dusting off my golf bag, buying tickets for a Yankee game with Kaybli, and sitting on a restaurant patio in New Orleans with you and your better half. Here's to hearing that seven iron "click" again and watching that Titleist rise to meet a bright blue Texas sky.  |
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Post by inger on Mar 1, 2022 19:03:52 GMT -5
Now that's a nice walk down Memory Lane, Rizz. I would also throw in Gary Player, even though I think of him as more of a 60s guy and he turned 35 in 1970. He won four Majors and 12 PGA events overall in the 1970s, despite playing a more limited PGA schedule. A few more names from that decade -- putting guru Dave Stockton, John Mahaffey and Lou Graham. I only bring up Graham because in 1979 I was at the now-defunct IVB-Philadelphia Classic and saw Graham defeat Lanny Wadkins's younger brother Bobby in a playoff. I didn't go to a lot of PGA events until maybe 25 years ago, but I'm so glad I went to that one because the field included Nicklaus, Watson, Trevino, Irwin, Green and Floyd, among others. There was also Aussie David Graham in that period. Yeah, Watson busted Jack in close ones a few times in the majors -- the one you mentioned and the British "Duel In The Sun" in 1977. But Trevino three times beat Jack by one stroke or in a playoff in Majors. These were just battles of Titans. I've said many times that nearly as amazing as The Bear's 18 Majors is the 19 runners-up in Majors. I was reading about how gracious Jack was to Tom after the 77 Open, putting his arm around him and telling him that he'd given his best shot but it wasn't enough. But after the 82 US Open loss, Jack's first comment to Tom was "You little sonofabitch." In both cases, of course, le mot juste and understood as such. The immortals know how to handle those situations, as Bobby Jones had earlier instructed Jack. And Watson returned the favor after the gut-punching loss to Stuart Cink in the 2009 Open. The most heartbreaking athletic event I think I've ever seen. It still irritates me, and I know Cink just happened to be the beneficiary, but I kind of hold it against him a little bit. Tom's iron shot on 18 that looked so promising -- just a bit too much club -- almost 60 years old -- almost a sixth Open. Ugh. And kudos for bringing up Hubert Green. Maybe one of the more forgotten greats from that time. Hunched way over on his putts. Hale Irwin, just so consistent. And speaking of consistency, that reminds me of another one from that time -- Sam Snead's nephew J.C. Snead. He wasn't winning a lot of tournaments, but he made a fortune by coming in top ten week after week. Yes, and Gene Littler. Gene The Machine. I tend to think of him as a 50s and 60s guy -- he was born in 1930 -- but you're right, he was still putting up some great numbers well into the 1970s. Like his fellow San Diegan and good pal Billy Casper. Casper may be the most under-appreciated elite golfer ever. Fifty-one tour victories. Three majors. Even in his prime he was regarded by many golf fans somewhat as background noise -- pudgy, colorless, played mainly to avoid mistakes rather than hit bravura shots. I have his autobiography, "The Big Three and Me." He still comes across that way! Johnny Miller in the early-to-mid-1970s was almost Jack/Tiger level good. As he would be the first to tell you. Except he might leave out "almost." What a phenom he was. Then he lost it for years, made a brief rally, then the physical issues finished him off. Man he was fun to watch. What a memory you have, Pipps! Gary Player is definitely an oversight on my part. The Black Knight was on the Mount Rushmore of golfers of that era, along with Palmer and Nicklaus. Billy Casper is indeed the most underrated golfer in PGA history and arguably one of the best putters ever in the history of the game. There were so many golfers in the 1960s and 1970s who just knew how to win down the stretch. Outside of Tiger and Phil and the several two or three-year run golfers, too many tournaments down to the wire become battles of bogey attrition. Backing into wins, rather than taking the trophy. Many thought Johnny Miller was the next Nicklaus, mostly because of the blonde hair, but nobody was as lethal with irons like Miller in his prime, except for Bryon Nelson. Whereas Nicklaus could putt from anywhere, Miller just eliminated the worry by tapping in lasers that landed within inches of the flag. I love the passing of the baton of the greats in golf history. Anyone who saw Bobby Jones play golf - when he was healthy - knew they were watching something different. The way he carried himself set the code of comportment on the course for a generation and the next. Palmer and Jack were pitted against each other by fans and sports writers. As Nicklaus once remarked, "I had to worry about fighting Arnie's Army, but I never had to worry about fighting Palmer." The two were close friends who loved the competition but it ended after the round. Arnie and Jack always had their priorities happily in order, in large part to the love and guidance of their fathers. One of my favorite stories was a teenage Arnold Palmer watching his father being dressed down by a muckity-muck who complained about him letting his son occasionally hit balls on the course. Palmer later bought the golf course. How's that for winning the long game? Nicklaus has stories about Ben Hogan seeking him out to play practice rounds, except Hogan never wanted to putt out. He just wanted to play Jack tee to green. Speaking of story tellers, none were better than Gene Sarazen, who could go back to Harry Vardon - another giant of the game. I miss playing golf. On the way to my sister's house, I always pass a golf course on the way and memories just flood into mind. Tomorrow afternoon, I have a second interview for a job. If it all works out, I'll be a huge step closer to dusting off my golf bag, buying tickets for a Yankee game with Kaybli, and sitting on a restaurant patio in New Orleans with you and your better half. Here's to hearing that seven iron "click" again and watching that Titleist rise to meet a bright blue Texas sky.  For whatever value you place on it, I’m sending my strongest intonations your way to give you the power to say the correct words to cinch down that job… |
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Post by domeplease on Mar 1, 2022 20:57:30 GMT -5
RIZZ: Hoping that you get the job. --To gurantee you get the job just show them a picture of Tequila and tell them that by hiring you they get 2 for 1 = You & Tequila just at your Salary.
AND/OR: Just walk into the Interview, look at the Person and say, You are FIRED!!! I am your replacement (That my friend is Confidence).
AND/OR: Start crying, saying you need the job/salary in order to care for and feed Tequila --Show them Tequila's Pic and cry even more.
AND/OR: Tell them if they do not hire you at Top Salary -- That will you get The Inger to start posting on all their Social Media Sites = YOU WILL GET tHE JOB!!
Best of Luck. Damn JUST DO IT!!! -- I gave you extra Tequila Pics for your interview use...
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 1, 2022 21:03:21 GMT -5
There were so many golfers in the 1960s and 1970s who just knew how to win down the stretch. Outside of Tiger and Phil and the several two or three-year run golfers, too many tournaments down to the wire become battles of bogey attrition. Backing into wins, rather than taking the trophy. Many thought Johnny Miller was the next Nicklaus, mostly because of the blonde hair, but nobody was as lethal with irons like Miller in his prime, except for Bryon Nelson. Whereas Nicklaus could putt from anywhere, Miller just eliminated the worry by tapping in lasers that landed within inches of the flag. I love the passing of the baton of the greats in golf history. Anyone who saw Bobby Jones play golf - when he was healthy - knew they were watching something different. The way he carried himself set the code of comportment on the course for a generation and the next. Palmer and Jack were pitted against each other by fans and sports writers. As Nicklaus once remarked, "I had to worry about fighting Arnie's Army, but I never had to worry about fighting Palmer." The two were close friends who loved the competition but it ended after the round. Arnie and Jack always had their priorities happily in order, in large part to the love and guidance of their fathers. One of my favorite stories was a teenage Arnold Palmer watching his father being dressed down by a muckity-muck who complained about him letting his son occasionally hit balls on the course. Palmer later bought the golf course. How's that for winning the long game? Nicklaus has stories about Ben Hogan seeking him out to play practice rounds, except Hogan never wanted to putt out. He just wanted to play Jack tee to green. Speaking of story tellers, none were better than Gene Sarazen, who could go back to Harry Vardon - another giant of the game. I miss playing golf. On the way to my sister's house, I always pass a golf course on the way and memories just flood into mind. Tomorrow afternoon, I have a second interview for a job. If it all works out, I'll be a huge step closer to dusting off my golf bag, buying tickets for a Yankee game with Kaybli, and sitting on a restaurant patio in New Orleans with you and your better half. Here's to hearing that seven iron "click" again and watching that Titleist rise to meet a bright blue Texas sky. Well first and most importantly, heartfelt best wishes for your job interview my friend. At the appropriate time, do let us know how it went. If that's all that stands between you and a return to the links, it just has to happen, that's all. Did you know that Gene Sarazen was good friends from childhood with Ed Sullivan? One of the many treats of visiting Augusta National -- and it's an absolute requirement to go there -- is to see the plaque commemorating The Squire's famous double eagle on 15 in 1935. That really put The Masters on the map. There have been 16 double eagles at majors, but only twice -- Sarazen in 1935 and the god-like Young Tom Morris at The Open in 1870 -- came from players who won the tournament. Sarazen is one of only five golfers with a career Grand Slam (in the modern sense), the others being Jack, Tiger, Hogan and Player. Sarazen was indeed a great raconteur, and you probably remember him doing TV broadcasts and hitting the honorary first shot at Augusta up until a few months before he died at age 97. As for that passing the torch -- how wonderful was it that Gene Sarazen and Bobby Jones both played in the 1920 U.S. Open at the age of 18 against the great Harry Vardon and Ted Ray, who were 50 and 43 respectively? In fact Jones and Vardon were paired in the opening round. So Sarazen, who lived until 1999, teed it up against Vardon, who was born in 1870. Ray won that Open and Vardon was tied for second. And Vardon in his younger days was congratulated on his play by none other than Old Tom Morris. I'm pretty sure he represents the beginning of time. So Old Tom watched Vardon, who competed against Sarazen, who hit honorary tee shots at a Masters won by Tiger Woods. Only three degrees of separation. Vardon and Ray did as much as anyone to popularize golf in the U.S. in the first two decades of the twentieth century with their tours of the country. Both from the Isle of Jersey. There are clips of Vardon swinging floating around on YouTube. So cool to watch. Give that man modern equipment and he'd be killing them today. Great Arnie story. He always won in the long run. |
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Post by inger on Mar 1, 2022 21:21:39 GMT -5
RIZZ: Hoping that you get the job. --To gurantee you get the job just show them a picture of Tequila and tell them that by hiring you they get 2 for 1 = You & Tequila just at your Salary.
AND/OR: Just walk into the Interview, look at the Person and say, You are FIRED!!! I am your replacement (That my friend is Confidence).
AND/OR: Start crying, saying you need the job/salary in order to care for and feed Tequila --Show them Tequila's Pic and cry even more.
AND/OR: Tell them if they do not hire you at Top Salary -- That will you get The Inger to start posting on all their Social Media Sites = YOU WILL GET tHE JOB!!
Best of Luck. Damn JUST DO IT!!! -- I gave you extra Tequila Pics for your interview use...
This is extremely generous of you, Ming. However offering my services when you can’t “gurantee” them is unwise… |
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