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Post by kaybli on Mar 14, 2022 7:37:15 GMT -5
That is great. He thought of everything. He was a true golf fan, and he could play a round with some beautiful and inventive shots. Not bad for a guy who always struggled with his weight - pushing more than 280 when we were in college in our "best shape." Dave had a joie de vivre true to his Acadian/Cajun roots in Mamou, Louisiana. Dave and I could piss away a day better and faster than any two people I know - and have nothing but wonderful memories to tell. Dave never missed an inside joke. Sometimes a look was all that we needed to burst into laughter. Dave was also a movie buff, a Yankees' fan, a Celtics' fan, and a die-hard New Orleans' Saints' fan. I wish he had lived to see the Super Bowl Championship of the 2009 NFL season. More than anything, Dave was a true friend. Someone with whom you would tell anything to without judgement or condemnation. He understood that support wasn't always having an answer. Dave loved music, food, sports, humor, and company. I never tired of his companionship. We always talked about retiring and living next door to each other, playing golf in the morning, catching a movie matinee in the afternoon, and great meal at dinner time. When Dave died, it made me a better person, a better husband, a better friend. Somehow I intentionally sublimated some of his best qualities as a tribute to his wonderful spirit. I always maintained that Dave was a better person than me. Dave found the goodness in everyone, and I mean everyone. Dave always gave others the benefit of the doubt and had no place for hate in his huge heart. Dave was the John Belushi of our college group of friends - without the drug problems. God, I miss him. Wonderful tribute to Dave.
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Post by inger on Mar 14, 2022 8:23:35 GMT -5
He was a true golf fan, and he could play a round with some beautiful and inventive shots. Not bad for a guy who always struggled with his weight - pushing more than 280 when we were in college in our "best shape." Dave had a joie de vivre true to his Acadian/Cajun roots in Mamou, Louisiana. Dave and I could piss away a day better and faster than any two people I know - and have nothing but wonderful memories to tell. Dave never missed an inside joke. Sometimes a look was all that we needed to burst into laughter. Dave was also a movie buff, a Yankees' fan, a Celtics' fan, and a die-hard New Orleans' Saints' fan. I wish he had lived to see the Super Bowl Championship of the 2009 NFL season. More than anything, Dave was a true friend. Someone with whom you would tell anything to without judgement or condemnation. He understood that support wasn't always having an answer. Dave loved music, food, sports, humor, and company. I never tired of his companionship. We always talked about retiring and living next door to each other, playing golf in the morning, catching a movie matinee in the afternoon, and great meal at dinner time. When Dave died, it made me a better person, a better husband, a better friend. Somehow I intentionally sublimated some of his best qualities as a tribute to his wonderful spirit. I always maintained that Dave was a better person than me. Dave found the goodness in everyone, and I mean everyone. Dave always gave others the benefit of the doubt and had no place for hate in his huge heart. Dave was the John Belushi of our college group of friends - without the drug problems. God, I miss him. Wonderful tribute to Dave. Couldn’t have said it better…
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Post by domeplease on Mar 16, 2022 14:46:25 GMT -5
My picks for this year have done OK so far = just hoping when I bet on them for the Majors that FOUR of them win.
he Premier Golf League would hold 54-hole events with an individual and team component, and PGA Tour members would receive $2 million each before a single shot is hit.
While the PGA Tour has spent considerable time in recent weeks pushing back against a potential rival league fronted by Hall of Famer Greg Norman, the Premier Golf League – which originally presented an alternative format and huge money offers going back eight years – has quietly been working behind the scenes to garner support.
And it has gained some traction.
The reason? The 54-hole events with an individual and team component of 48 players and guaranteed money each week would come under the umbrella of PGA Tour Inc., the non-profit organization that operates the PGA Tour, along with several others, including the Korn Ferry Tour.
In a letter sent to the PGA Tour Policy Board in February and since shared with numerous players, and obtained by SI.com/Morning Read, the Premier Golf League (PGL), which operates under the banner of the World Golf Group based in London, outlines a plan that would generate significant equity value for all voting PGA Tour members, as well as those on the DP World Tour and the Korn Ferry Tour.
“This reaffirms our desire to share, equitably, the value to be generated by the Premier Golf League and to collaborate with the PGA Tour Inc. in a manner that is both consistent with its principal mission and in the best interests of its members,’’ wrote Roger Maddock, chairman of World Golf Group Ltd.
As outlined in the letter, as a new joint venture corporation, Premier Golf League Inc. would issue shares equal to 50 percent to PGA Tour players, 7.5 percent to the Korn Ferry players, 2.5 percent to DP World Tour players, 5 percent to the Tour’s commercial partners, 2.5 percent to PGL’s directors (which could include PGA Tour commissioner Jay Monahan), 7.5 percent to a charitable foundation (to benefit the amateur game) and 25 percent to the World Golf Group.
World Golf Group states it believes the PGL will generate $10 billion of equity value by 2030, which would equate to $20 million per PGA Tour voting member and $3 million per Korn Ferry member.
In addition, the proposal includes a cash advance on future equity value of $460 million. In simple terms, each of 200 voting members of the PGA Tour would receive $2 million upon the launch of the PGL, with 200 Korn Ferry members each getting $300,000.
Andy Gardiner, the CEO of the Premier Golf League, who was recently at the Players Championship, declined to comment. But in a November interview in which he disclosed the PGL was attempting to work with – and not against – the PGA Tour, he outlined how the concept would enhance all players, not just those who play as part of the PGL.
“It’s not destructive,’’ Gardiner said. “It’s just a division created under them. We call it co-sanctioning. And the PGA Tour has shown there is value in alternative fields.’’
"If someone comes along and says I think I can create this amount of revenue and distribute it amongst every player, you have to listen to that, right?" -- Rory McIlroy
In December, Rory McIlroy, who recently became a member of the PGA Tour Policy Board after being part of the Player Advisory Council, said in an interview with the "No Laying Up" Podcast that he believed it was his duty to present the PGL plan to the membership.
“In my role as PAC chairman and now on the Policy Board, I have to think of those guys that are down at the bottom, right?’’ McIlroy said. “So then, going on to PGL and you have Andy Gardiner on here (on a previous podcast), saying, well I think I can create $5 billion worth of equity for the layers and distribute that among the 210 (members), so I’m sort of adding that up in my mind and that’s like $20 million each. I’m like again, I’m not doing a good job for the players if I don’t bring that to the attention of the Tour and be like ... just sit down and listen to this guy, do something.
“Yes, OK, I get the business model that the PGA Tour is currently under, Andy said 'hamstrung,' in terms of ... this is just sort of what they can do and they’re doing their best with what they can, and I agree that they’re doing a wonderful job within the structure they’re in because that was what was created before Jay (Monahan) took charge. You know it is what it is.
But if someone comes along and says I think I can create this amount of revenue and distribute it amongst every player, you have to listen to that, right? Because again, that’s my responsibility to all the players who voted me into this position.’’
And yet it would be quite a departure from the current way the PGA Tour operates.
All along, the PGL – elements of which would appear to have been adopted by LIV Golf Investments – had proposed a league that would have 18 events, with a majority in North America.
Under the proposal that would see the PGL as part of the PGA Tour, those tournaments would take the place of existing events on the PGA Tour and could be played at current venues and run by the Tour staff and partners.
They could even be rebranded as co-PGA/PGL events. Purses would be $20 million, with $4 million paid out to the winner and $150,000 for last place. There would also be a team aspect – the winning team would split $1 million each week. And there would be a season-ending team playoff championship for a winner-takes-all $20 million prize fund.
The funding would come from a variety of sources. Gardiner said last year it has funds to cover the PGL’s full working capital requirements “multiple times over.’’ There is no Saudi money involved or any other sovereign wealth funds. Included are several U.S. institutional private equity and high-net worth U.S. individuals.
But what about the players who are not part of the PGL, which would have 48 players comprised of 12 four-mean teams with the potential for a 13th team each week picked by fans?
Those not part of the PGL events would compete in regular PGA Tour events in other weeks, a schedule that would, based on the current calendar, mean approximately 30 events, with the FedEx Cup structure in place. Those who compete in the 18 PGL events would not be prohibited from playing tournaments in other weeks.
Norman and his yet-to-be-named league that is being backed by the Public Investment Fund in Saudi Arabia, has garnered most of the headlines over the past several months.
Norman was named CEO of LIV Golf Investments, which has made a $300 million commitment to the Asian Tour over the next 10 years, with plans for an alternative league that is similar in structure to what the PGL has proposed.
But Norman’s league would be separate, and already there has been considerable consternation as players such as Phil Mickelson, Bryson DeChambeau and Dustin Johnson were said to be in line to join the league.
Most PGA Tour players backed off in the wake of critical comments of the Tour from Mickelson, who is currently taking a leave and has not competed since the Saudi International tournament in early February. Whether he will even play in the Masters is unclear.
What remains to be seen is if McIlroy, the PGA Tour Policy Board and Monahan will take a meeting with the World Golf Group to discuss the PGL proposals.
New Golf League Announces Massive Monetary Prizes
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 16, 2022 15:01:00 GMT -5
I don't get this at all. McIlroy took the lead in blasting Mickelson about this just a few weeks ago, and now he wants to have a look? The PGA schedule is already so crowded, I don't see how they can pull this off without seriously undermining the tour.
Why would the PGA cooperate with this group?
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 16, 2022 15:05:03 GMT -5
I don't get this at all. McIlroy took the lead in blasting Mickelson about this just a few weeks ago, and now he wants to have a look? The PGA schedule is already so crowded, I don't see how they can pull this off without seriously undermining the tour. Why would the PGA cooperate with this group? Never miss an opportunity to demean and to dehumanize others, until it may be profitable to go along.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 16, 2022 15:12:49 GMT -5
Here is my INITIAL LIST of Golfers I will follow this year and most likely bet on (other players might be added):
--Matsuyama --Morikawa --Cantlay --Rahm --Hovland --Cameron Smith --Koepka --Schauffele --Kinser --Na --Ancer --Bezuidenhout
Those picks from January are looking mighty good right now, DoMe. Close to being the Top Ten world rankings other than Bezuidenhout. I watched Cameron Smith doing a practice round at TPC Scottsdale last month. I'm not sure the guy has a pulse. He has the same expression when he sinks a 40-foot putt as when he hits one into the parking lot.
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Post by inger on Mar 16, 2022 15:18:03 GMT -5
if someone comes along and says I think I can create this amount of revenue and distribute it amongst every player, you have to listen to that, right? Because again, that’s my responsibility to all the players who voted me into this position.’’
The little paragraph above says it all. Even as we’ve been getting the blow by blow from Dome on the horrible Mickelson, at that time there had been no public “reveal” of the purse splitting. Therefore, the benefit to PGA players was unknown.
Greg Norman is still “The Shark”. There are a lot more of them on the water when the blood starts to let. I still don’t see this as any worse than MLB players negotiating for a bigger piece of that pie…
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 16, 2022 15:20:00 GMT -5
Here is my INITIAL LIST of Golfers I will follow this year and most likely bet on (other players might be added):
--Matsuyama --Morikawa --Cantlay --Rahm --Hovland --Cameron Smith --Koepka --Schauffele --Kinser --Na --Ancer --Bezuidenhout
Those picks from January are looking mighty good right now, DoMe. Close to being the Top Ten world rankings other than Bezuidenhout. I watched Cameron Smith doing a practice round at TPC Scottsdale last month. I'm not sure the guy has a pulse. He has the same expression when he sinks a 40-foot putt as when he hits one into the parking lot. God bless you.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 16, 2022 15:20:11 GMT -5
I don't get this at all. McIlroy took the lead in blasting Mickelson about this just a few weeks ago, and now he wants to have a look? The PGA schedule is already so crowded, I don't see how they can pull this off without seriously undermining the tour. Why would the PGA cooperate with this group? Never miss an opportunity to demean and to dehumanize others, until it may be profitable to go along. Rory seems to have gotten snarkier over the years. I used to really like him, fresh young gun and all that, but sometimes he seems like he's turning into Sergio Garcia. Still needs the Green Jacket to complete the career slam.
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 16, 2022 15:24:41 GMT -5
if someone comes along and says I think I can create this amount of revenue and distribute it amongst every player, you have to listen to that, right? Because again, that’s my responsibility to all the players who voted me into this position.’’ The little paragraph above says it all. Even as we’ve been getting the blow by blow from Dome on the horrible Mickelson, at that time there had been no public “reveal” of the purse splitting. Therefore, the benefit to PGA players was unknown. Greg Norman is still “The Shark”. There are a lot more of them on the water when the blood starts to let. I still don’t see this as any worse than MLB players negotiating for a bigger piece of that pie… One trip to Puerta Vallarta, Mexico, Sarah and I were taking a cab drive past Banderas Bay. I asked the cabbie if there were sharks in the bay. The cabbie smiled and said, "Señor, what you have to look out for are the sharks ON the beach!"
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 16, 2022 15:27:56 GMT -5
Never miss an opportunity to demean and to dehumanize others, until it may be profitable to go along. Rory seems to have gotten snarkier over the years. I used to really like him, fresh young gun and all that, but sometimes he seems like he's turning into Sergio Garcia. Still needs the Green Jacket to complete the career slam. Sergio Garcia had the misfortune to be crowned as a teenager as the next Seve Ballesteros...and believed it. Rory "The Snark" McIlroy.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 16, 2022 15:38:25 GMT -5
Those picks from January are looking mighty good right now, DoMe. Close to being the Top Ten world rankings other than Bezuidenhout. I watched Cameron Smith doing a practice round at TPC Scottsdale last month. I'm not sure the guy has a pulse. He has the same expression when he sinks a 40-foot putt as when he hits one into the parking lot. God bless you. One of our neighbors is an Afrikaner and big golf fan. A few years back she went with us to a practice round at the US Open when it was held at Merion. She was following her countrymen -- Els, Oousthuizen, Schwarzl -- around the course. After Ernie Els had finished off at the eighth green and was heading over to the ninth hole, instead of walking inside the ropes he came right to where we were standing, ducking under the ropes. She was so excited as he was approaching, as if he knew us, she was clutching my arm. She said something to him in Afrikaans, and after giving a surprised look, he responded. I knew Els was one of her favorites and asked what the conversation was about. She said she told him "you're not supposed to walk through here." And he said "you're not supposed to speak Afrikaans in Philadelphia." It just seemed like a missed opportunity all the way around.
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 16, 2022 15:49:51 GMT -5
God bless you. One of our neighbors is an Afrikaner and big golf fan. A few years back she went with us to a practice round at the US Open when it was held at Merion. She was following her countrymen -- Els, Oousthuizen, Schwarzl -- around the course. After Ernie Els had finished off at the eighth green and was heading over to the ninth hole, instead of walking inside the ropes he came right to where we were standing, ducking under the ropes. She was so excited as he was approaching, as if he knew us, she was clutching my arm. She said something to him in Afrikaans, and after giving a surprised look, he responded. I knew Els was one of her favorites and asked what the conversation was about. She said she told him "you're not supposed to walk through here." And he said "you're not supposed to speak Afrikaans in Philadelphia." It just seemed like a missed opportunity all the way around. Quick wit from Ernie! Els had as much talent as anyone, smooth and effortless swing. Big time power with a soft touch around the greens.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 16, 2022 15:57:03 GMT -5
One of our neighbors is an Afrikaner and big golf fan. A few years back she went with us to a practice round at the US Open when it was held at Merion. She was following her countrymen -- Els, Oousthuizen, Schwarzl -- around the course. After Ernie Els had finished off at the eighth green and was heading over to the ninth hole, instead of walking inside the ropes he came right to where we were standing, ducking under the ropes. She was so excited as he was approaching, as if he knew us, she was clutching my arm. She said something to him in Afrikaans, and after giving a surprised look, he responded. I knew Els was one of her favorites and asked what the conversation was about. She said she told him "you're not supposed to walk through here." And he said "you're not supposed to speak Afrikaans in Philadelphia." It just seemed like a missed opportunity all the way around. Quick wit from Ernie! Els had as much talent as anyone, smooth and effortless swing. Big time power with a soft touch around the greens. He is an impressive -looking specimen up close. Built like a truck. Fun to watch. I miss his reassuring presence on the tour.
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Post by inger on Mar 16, 2022 17:40:37 GMT -5
One of our neighbors is an Afrikaner and big golf fan. A few years back she went with us to a practice round at the US Open when it was held at Merion. She was following her countrymen -- Els, Oousthuizen, Schwarzl -- around the course. After Ernie Els had finished off at the eighth green and was heading over to the ninth hole, instead of walking inside the ropes he came right to where we were standing, ducking under the ropes. She was so excited as he was approaching, as if he knew us, she was clutching my arm. She said something to him in Afrikaans, and after giving a surprised look, he responded. I knew Els was one of her favorites and asked what the conversation was about. She said she told him "you're not supposed to walk through here." And he said "you're not supposed to speak Afrikaans in Philadelphia." It just seemed like a missed opportunity all the way around. Quick wit from Ernie! Els had as much talent as anyone, smooth and effortless swing. Big time power with a soft touch around the greens. Els’ time among the game’s elite was too short. He had back trouble as I recall. I used to like to follow him…
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