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Post by kaybli on Apr 24, 2018 21:14:52 GMT -5
They might have won that game if not for Nunez getting thrown out at home. He practically ran into the dugout he took the 3B turn so wide and got thrown out by a mile as the result. Granderson with a walkoff to win it for the Jays. Yes! Take that Kimbrel! Boston has lost 3 straight! |
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Post by inger on Apr 24, 2018 21:51:30 GMT -5
Damnit, Boston ties it against Osuna in the 9th! [img src="//storage.proboards.com/6828121/images/FiHotxkemjkOUexMSrRn.gif" class="smile" alt="  "] They might have won that game if not for Nunez getting thrown out at home. He practically ran into the dugout he took the 3B turn so wide and got thrown out by a mile as the result. Nunez continues to prove that he's talented, but not a good instinctual baseball player...Hence the reason he didn't last in NY... |
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Post by inger on Apr 24, 2018 21:56:31 GMT -5
So the defense continues to struggle. Perhaps we should expect that with all of the shuttling in and out of players due to injuries and trying to find the correct and more permanent situations. Rookies will make rookie mistakes (although I don't really see too many of those happening, it's been a lot of veterans). New players will take time to gel with and learn to communicate with the existing veterans. Hicks and Gardner was a very unusual situation tonight, and I can say that is excusable on the odd occasion, not something I would normally expect to see them do...
We've played guys out of position, or with blurry vision, or shuttled in and out at every position in the infield except SS. The OF has occasionally been manned by some AAAA subs. I think the second quarter of the season we should look a lot sharper as our primary team will be set in place (unless there are more injuries...shhhh...)...
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Post by kaybli on Apr 24, 2018 22:03:18 GMT -5
So the defense continues to struggle. Perhaps we should expect that with all of the shuttling in and out of players due to injuries and trying to find the correct and more permanent situations. Rookies will make rookie mistakes (although I don't really see too many of those happening, it's been a lot of veterans). New players will take time to gel with and learn to communicate with the existing veterans. Cashman's Guy and Gardner was a very unusual situation tonight, and I can say that is excusable on the odd occasion, not something I would normally expect to see them do... We've played guys out of position, or with blurry vision, or shuttled in and out at every position in the infield except SS. The OF has occasionally been manned by some AAAA subs. I think the second quarter of the season we should look a lot sharper as our primary team will be set in place (unless there are more injuries...shhhh...)... No excuses for the bad defense. It's not like we're playing guys out of position (except for Walker at 1B maybe). And you're right its been mostly the veterans not the rookies making the mistakes. Anyways, I'm looking at the positives right now. I'm sure the defense will improve. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Apr 24, 2018 22:31:46 GMT -5
Team really is starting to come together. I'm sure the defense will get better if the injuries stay down teams seem to gel better when the mostly the same lineup can be played day after day. Not making excuses or nothing, but I guess some of the players need to get on the same page defensively.
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Post by utahyank on Apr 24, 2018 23:20:40 GMT -5
yeah...they make, what..5 errors and still win handily....the body/facial language of Dozier talking to Judge in about the 6th was telling....they went with their best and got smoked......
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Post by inger on Apr 24, 2018 23:25:41 GMT -5
Berrios is certainly a talented young pitcher. And with that name, he may be the first baseball player to have a breakfast cereal named for him...It's a good day when you can make 5 errors and not only win, but win by a bunch...Of course, when pitchers throw a pitch in the middle of the plate, that too is an error, though not scored as one. We took advantage of some of those... (:
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Post by anthonyd46 on Apr 25, 2018 0:04:19 GMT -5
Since this has now been the third year in a row that Bentances has had issues I am not sure what the solution is. The other two years it happened late the in year (similar to how the same was happening to Brett Gardner late in seasons for a while) I dunno what Gardner eventually did to change it a bit but last year he didn't falter late so I dunno if he changed his condition or what. Regardless though whats concerning here is we can't even blame its late season fatigue or anything with Betances as right now its April 25th. I guess he has had a good amount of good appearances this year 5 of his last 7 appearances were scoreless, but the 2 that were not were so bad that he is averaging a WHIP of 2 for the month of April. I guess theres too much talent there to give up on him, but at the same time he really lets games get out of hand sometimes. I guess the solution is if he doesn't have to pull him early, but its just not a good sign that this is happening in April.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Apr 25, 2018 0:05:25 GMT -5
Damnit, Boston ties it against Osuna in the 9th! [img alt=" " class="smile" src="//storage.proboards.com/6828121/images/FiHotxkemjkOUexMSrRn.gif"] They might have won that game if not for Nunez getting thrown out at home. He practically ran into the dugout he took the 3B turn so wide and got thrown out by a mile as the result. Good old Nunez with the mental errors. |
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Post by inger on Apr 25, 2018 0:24:25 GMT -5
Since this has now been the third year in a row that Bentances has had issues I am not sure what the solution is. The other two years it happened late the in year (similar to how the same was happening to Brett Gardner late in seasons for a while) I dunno what Gardner eventually did to change it a bit but last year he didn't falter late so I dunno if he changed his condition or what. Regardless though whats concerning here is we can't even blame its late season fatigue or anything with Betances as right now its April 25th. I guess he has had a good amount of good appearances this year 5 of his last 7 appearances were scoreless, but the 2 that were not were so bad that he is averaging a WHIP of 2 for the month of April. I guess theres too much talent there to give up on him, but at the same time he really lets games get out of hand sometimes. I guess the solution is if he doesn't have to pull him early, but its just not a good sign that this is happening in April. To be quite honest, I felt that we should have pedaled him off on someone over the winter. He was great for several seasons, but the same issues that made him a late bloomer are likely going to make him an early fader. The bloom is off the rose. Too late now to get much of anything for him in a trade. All we can do is hope for a miracle recovery... |
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Post by kaybli on Apr 25, 2018 4:04:50 GMT -5
Since this has now been the third year in a row that Bentances has had issues I am not sure what the solution is. The other two years it happened late the in year (similar to how the same was happening to Brett Gardner late in seasons for a while) I dunno what Gardner eventually did to change it a bit but last year he didn't falter late so I dunno if he changed his condition or what. Regardless though whats concerning here is we can't even blame its late season fatigue or anything with Betances as right now its April 25th. I guess he has had a good amount of good appearances this year 5 of his last 7 appearances were scoreless, but the 2 that were not were so bad that he is averaging a WHIP of 2 for the month of April. I guess theres too much talent there to give up on him, but at the same time he really lets games get out of hand sometimes. I guess the solution is if he doesn't have to pull him early, but its just not a good sign that this is happening in April. To be quite honest, I felt that we should have pedaled him off on someone over the winter. He was great for several seasons, but the same issues that made him a late bloomer are likely going to make him an early fader. The bloom is off the rose. Too late now to get much of anything for him in a trade. All we can do is hope for a miracle recovery... I'm really tired of Betances. I don't think he's worth it anymore at this point. Only use him in low leverage situations. |
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Post by kaybli on Apr 25, 2018 4:05:17 GMT -5
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Apr 25, 2018 8:42:35 GMT -5
I was thinking the same thing. Try to work the count and get into their weak bullpen I guess. And have CC throw a great game. It's doable. Doable and done! |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Apr 25, 2018 8:46:10 GMT -5
To be quite honest, I felt that we should have pedaled him off on someone over the winter. He was great for several seasons, but the same issues that made him a late bloomer are likely going to make him an early fader. The bloom is off the rose. Too late now to get much of anything for him in a trade. All we can do is hope for a miracle recovery... I'm really tired of Betances. I don't think he's worth it anymore at this point. Only use him in low leverage situations. Not worth having on the team if thats all he's good for. You can put an average reliever in a lower leverage situation. |
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Post by kaybli on Apr 25, 2018 9:07:56 GMT -5
I'm really tired of Betances. I don't think he's worth it anymore at this point. Only use him in low leverage situations. Not worth having on the team if thats all he's good for. You can put an average reliever in a lower leverage situation. Maybe give him a couple more chances to see if he can figure it out. If he keeps stinking it up like this, get rid of him. |
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