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Post by azbob643 on Mar 17, 2024 11:49:59 GMT -5
Sergio Romo set and holds the record for most consecutive appearances by a pitcher without allowing a baserunner with 14. "...active player Bligh Madris is the first MLB player with the first name “Bligh”. Sergio Romo & Bligh Madris both went to Mesa State...now Colorado Mesa University / Grand Junction, CO |
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 17, 2024 11:50:53 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Mar 17, 2024 12:00:29 GMT -5
A great moment… Red Ruffing hit a walk off GS for the Yankees… So did Babe Ruth and Charlie Keller, but Ruffing’s as a pitcher is wild… |
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Post by inger on Mar 17, 2024 12:06:03 GMT -5
Now that you brought it up, 2095 of the 4,333 walk off HR have been in extra innings…48.34%… |
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Post by inger on Mar 17, 2024 23:36:11 GMT -5
Walter Johnson is the only modern era pitcher with over 200 hit batters (205). Eddie Plank and Randy Johnson had 190 to tie for second.
It’s often stated that Johnson won 38 games by a 1-0 score. He’s 38-27 in 1-0 games in total.
Eight of his twelve strikeout crowns came in consecutive seasons… Won the AL K crown 1912-1919.
His career ERA is 2.17, a 147 ERA+ in his era…(deadball)…
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Mar 18, 2024 8:46:24 GMT -5
Walter Johnson is the only modern era pitcher with over 200 hit batters (205). Eddie Plank and Randy Johnson had 190 to tie for second. It’s often stated that Johnson won 38 games by a 1-0 score. He’s 38-27 in 1-0 games in total. Eight of his twelve strikeout crowns came in consecutive seasons… Won the AL K crown 1912-1919. His career ERA is 2.17, a 147 ERA+ in his era…(deadball)… when I think of pitchers who hit batters the names Drysdale and Gibson come to mind, is that perception or reality? |
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Post by inger on Mar 18, 2024 8:55:04 GMT -5
Ed Walsh was 40-15 for the White Sox in 1908. On days other pitchers got a decision the team was 48-49 (4 ties). His 1.84 career ERA is the best in history (146 ERA +), yet we don’t hear much about him. That’s probably because he stopped at 195 wins after having pitched 464 innings in 1908 alone, with a couple other seasons around 400 innings.
He was credited* with pitching complete games in double headers in 1905 and 1908.
* the first game in the doubleheader in 1905, Walsh was summoned from the bullpen after starter Doc White summoned a hit to the first batter.
Since 1961 there have been 126 era crowns doled out between the two leagues. Walsh’s career ERA would have beat the winners in 106 of those seasons…Gotta love deadball stats…
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Post by inger on Mar 18, 2024 9:05:35 GMT -5
Walter Johnson is the only modern era pitcher with over 200 hit batters (205). Eddie Plank and Randy Johnson had 190 to tie for second. It’s often stated that Johnson won 38 games by a 1-0 score. He’s 38-27 in 1-0 games in total. Eight of his twelve strikeout crowns came in consecutive seasons… Won the AL K crown 1912-1919. His career ERA is 2.17, a 147 ERA+ in his era…(deadball)… when I think of pitchers who hit batters the names Drysdale and Gibson come to mind, is that perception or reality? Drysdale plunked 120, for 20th of all time. Gibson hit 102, tied for 89th. It was quite a few for their era. Drysdale I think simply hit people for fun and future effect. With Gibson, he was more of a guy that you have to piss off to get hit by the pitch, but he threw plenty of brushback pitches, too. In those rankings, dead ball and pre 1900 pitchers are included, and the HBP was more common…as were massive innings counts for some of the pitchers… |
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 18, 2024 9:15:05 GMT -5
when I think of pitchers who hit batters the names Drysdale and Gibson come to mind, is that perception or reality? Drysdale plunked 120, for 20th of all time. Gibson hit 102, tied for 89th. It was quite a few for their era. Drysdale I think simply hit people for fun and future effect. With Gibson, he was more of a guy that you have to piss off to get hit by the pitch, but he threw plenty of brushback pitches, too. In those rankings, dead ball and pre 1900 pitchers are included, and the HBP was more common…as were massive innings counts for some of the pitchers… Don't know about Walter Johnson or Plank, but I think Randy Johnson was just wild. Gibson & Drysdale intentionally threw at hitters...not a fan of headhunters. |
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Post by chiyankee on Mar 18, 2024 9:22:40 GMT -5
when I think of pitchers who hit batters the names Drysdale and Gibson come to mind, is that perception or reality? Drysdale plunked 120, for 20th of all time. Gibson hit 102, tied for 89th. It was quite a few for their era. Drysdale I think simply hit people for fun and future effect. With Gibson, he was more of a guy that you have to piss off to get hit by the pitch, but he threw plenty of brushback pitches, too. In those rankings, dead ball and pre 1900 pitchers are included, and the HBP was more common…as were massive innings counts for some of the pitchers… I think for Gibson just the intimidation factor of the hitter thinking that he could be hit worked in his factor. |
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Post by ypaterson on Mar 18, 2024 9:26:20 GMT -5
when I think of pitchers who hit batters the names Drysdale and Gibson come to mind, is that perception or reality? Drysdale plunked 120, for 20th of all time. Gibson hit 102, tied for 89th. It was quite a few for their era. Drysdale I think simply hit people for fun and future effect. With Gibson, he was more of a guy that you have to piss off to get hit by the pitch, but he threw plenty of brushback pitches, too. In those rankings, dead ball and pre 1900 pitchers are included, and the HBP was more common…as were massive innings counts for some of the pitchers… IMO throwing at guys was never good..but with the DH rule it is BS. |
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 18, 2024 9:31:09 GMT -5
Drysdale plunked 120, for 20th of all time. Gibson hit 102, tied for 89th. It was quite a few for their era. Drysdale I think simply hit people for fun and future effect. With Gibson, he was more of a guy that you have to piss off to get hit by the pitch, but he threw plenty of brushback pitches, too. In those rankings, dead ball and pre 1900 pitchers are included, and the HBP was more common…as were massive innings counts for some of the pitchers… IMO throwing at guys was never good..but with the DH rule it is BS. But...Gibson & Drysdale were hit only 8-5 times respectively. Clemens, another headhunter, was hit only twice when he was with Houston (NL). |
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 18, 2024 9:33:08 GMT -5
Drysdale plunked 120, for 20th of all time. Gibson hit 102, tied for 89th. It was quite a few for their era. Drysdale I think simply hit people for fun and future effect. With Gibson, he was more of a guy that you have to piss off to get hit by the pitch, but he threw plenty of brushback pitches, too. In those rankings, dead ball and pre 1900 pitchers are included, and the HBP was more common…as were massive innings counts for some of the pitchers… I think for Gibson just the intimidation factor of the hitter thinking that he could be hit worked in his factor. Yeah...having a 95 mph fastball thrown at you can't be comfortable. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Mar 18, 2024 10:08:19 GMT -5
Drysdale plunked 120, for 20th of all time. Gibson hit 102, tied for 89th. It was quite a few for their era. Drysdale I think simply hit people for fun and future effect. With Gibson, he was more of a guy that you have to piss off to get hit by the pitch, but he threw plenty of brushback pitches, too. In those rankings, dead ball and pre 1900 pitchers are included, and the HBP was more common…as were massive innings counts for some of the pitchers… I think for Gibson just the intimidation factor of the hitter thinking that he could be hit worked in his factor. I think I recall Joe Torre saying that Gibson would throw at his mother if she was crowding the plate. |
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 18, 2024 10:26:30 GMT -5
There’s no other sport that I know of (other than boxing, etc.) in which intentionally attempting to injure an opponent is seen as a positive.
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