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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 15, 2023 21:24:58 GMT -5
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 15, 2023 21:29:29 GMT -5
As soon as the calendar flipped to June, the season went down the tubes. That's also right after Rizzo and then Judge got hurt.
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Post by inger on Aug 15, 2023 21:31:58 GMT -5
I am not super well these days and busy so I have come to few games here. But I wish everyone well. Get thy posterior well, then Russ? What would that take? …
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 15, 2023 21:35:09 GMT -5
As soon as the calendar flipped to June, the season went down the tubes. That's also right after Rizzo and then Judge got hurt. Team was also on an 18-9 run and had over powered Toronto and Seattle the week prior. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by inger on Aug 15, 2023 21:36:48 GMT -5
That kinda confirms what I was thinking during the game--that we never hit balls in the gap which, of course, would often be doubles. I'm all for trading away much of the line-up and re-tooling. But Stanton is untradeable and who wants to give up anything for the likes of McKinney, Bauer, Cabrera, Rortvedt and others. They'd have to be packaged with prospects to get anything back. They get ROBBED a lot by outfielders, but I don't think anyone gets robbed that often to be last in doubles lol We seem to be easily scouted, plus YS3 is notoriously a poor XBH park with the small RF dimensions. Ever RHH try to hit to the opposite field to attempt to get HRS. I haven’t looked at this season, but we usually allow low doubles and triples, especiallhh the at home…
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 15, 2023 21:43:00 GMT -5
They get ROBBED a lot by outfielders, but I don't think anyone gets robbed that often to be last in doubles lol We seem to be easily scouted, plus YS3 is notoriously a poor XBH park with the small RF dimensions. Ever RHH try to hit to the opposite field to attempt to get HRS. I haven’t looked at this season, but we usually allow low doubles and triples, especiallhh the at home… Plus other teams have athletic and good defensive OF's. When Judge was on IL, the Yanks had infielders playing both corner spots and sometimes in CF too.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 15, 2023 21:51:11 GMT -5
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Post by noetsi on Aug 15, 2023 21:58:12 GMT -5
I am not super well these days and busy so I have come to few games here. But I wish everyone well. Get thy posterior well, then Russ? What would that take? … A miracle or being 20 years younger
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Post by domeplease on Aug 15, 2023 22:02:21 GMT -5
Ok let me summarize. 1 hit and now we are playing .500. Ready for my six year plan yet? Got to get rid/trade Torres, station, DJ, seve, Bauer, McKinney plus more and rebuilt with YOUTh. Yes drop fire cash and Boone.
Look back at my post in the spring trainin thread of Feb 2023 looks like I will be making some serious dollars.
Got to run Boone is on yes. gag me
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 15, 2023 22:07:46 GMT -5
Get thy posterior well, then Russ? What would that take? … A miracle or being 20 years younger I'm hope you're feeling better soon, Russ.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Aug 15, 2023 22:19:41 GMT -5
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Post by domeplease on Aug 15, 2023 22:34:13 GMT -5
I am not super well these days and busy so I have come to few games here. But I wish everyone well. . Wishing that your health gets better and real soon. I miss your posts. Take care and Please get well soon. Tequila gives you her best and her best too.
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Post by inger on Aug 15, 2023 22:53:25 GMT -5
Get thy posterior well, then Russ? What would that take? … A miracle or being 20 years younger Here’s what CAN happen. I think you’re still a few years younger than I am, but I basically retired about 2 years ago. I was under pressure with our house having a mortgage until I would be 93 years old at the pay off. We sold the house and used the proceeds to move to a quieter, less populated area, and paid for a smaller and less fancy house out of pocket. My blood pressure has dropped significantly since the retirement and move. My situation with diabetes has improved drastically. We have a smaller income, but virtually zero debt. Les x things to worry about. I’m much more relaxed and though I’m continuing my lifetime struggle with insomnia, I have kicked my addictive habit of taking Ambien every night. I’ll see my doctor in about another week, at which time he had told me he’ll give me a less dangerous drug to help me sleep, probably Trazodone. So less stress, less pills. I take it that your job is extremely stressful for you. They’re pushing you into longer hours, and you have a fear they could cut your job at any moment. Can you get out yet? Retire? Do something part time along with your SS? Your health is your most important asset my friend. If your job leads you to a heart attack or some other ailment, you’ll be out of work and out of luck. Think about. I thought I wanted to work until at least 75, but my health started telling me that if I did, I probably wouldn’t LIVE til 75. No job is more important than you. Have I touched on anything here that might help you? We can PM if you want. I think I’ve been in your shoes to some extent in the recent past. Let me know if I can help you! I can’t make you twenty years younger, but maybe I can hold you where you are for a bit. Maybe even help yih feel a couple years younger…
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Post by kaybli on Aug 16, 2023 1:17:05 GMT -5
I am not super well these days and busy so I have come to few games here. But I wish everyone well. Feel better noetsi! Hope you come to some more game threads! And at least start the Sept 11th one which is tradition.
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Post by pippsheadache on Aug 16, 2023 11:06:34 GMT -5
Was the 1965 Yankees like this inger? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Worse. It was a horrible transition from first to last in a ten team league. The aged out players, the injured. The underperforming was on a much worse level. That ‘65 team could never have sniffed .500. And it was glum because there was no way out. No free agency, had no players anyone wanted in trade, so similar in that respect. At least this team COUKD go get an Ohtani, or a Soto this winter and DOES have some good prospects. The ‘65 Yanks werd all out of aces… Inger, I hope this doesn't sound like nit-picking, but what you are describing sounds more like the 66-67 teams than the 1965 team. By an amazing historical coincidence, the 65 Yankees had the exact same record -- 60-60 -- on the exact same date -- August 15 -- as the 2023 Yankees. The team hovered around .500 for most of the year, mostly bubbling a few games under (hitting a low point of seven under in late June) until a modest surge got them as far as two games above (64-62) on August 24. That was unfortunately their high-water mark for the year. The last time they were at .500 was September 3, when they were 68-68. It was like they threw in the towel after that, going 9-17 the rest of the year to finish in sixth place at 77-85. It was their first losing season since 1925, and they would, as you noted, sink to even greater depths in 66-67, finishing tenth and ninth "respectively," if that's the right word to use, with records of 70-89 and 72-90. It was the first time the Yanks had three straight losing seasons since the four from 1912-1915, the transition from the Farrell-Devery ownership (as the Highlanders) to the Ruppert-Huston ownership. That 1965 squad is unfortunately more vivid to me than the 2022 version. Nobody saw it coming -- this group had won five straight pennants, so they had accomplished a lot more than the current gang -- and it wasn't really an old team. Only two regulars were over 30 -- Elston Howard was 36 and Mickey Mantle was 33. But Howard, Mantle, Bobby Richardson and Tony Kubek each had the worst season of their careers up to then. Roger Maris had his broken hand problems that limited him to 40 games and the sapping of his power. Joe Pepitone nosedived from his earlier seasons, although he was only 24 and would in fact bounce back with some more good years afterward. Whitey Ford began to develop arm problems and started to show his age (he was 36) going 16-13 with an ERA+ of 105, which would actually be the worst of his 16 year career. Al Downing and especially Jim Bouton regressed, even though they were only in their mid-20s. Mel Stottlemyre was essentially Gerrit Cole, going 20-9 with an ERA+ of 129. Why we always loved Mel. It was an almost perfect storm of underperformance, and it wasn't helped by first-year manager Johnny Keane, who had replaced the beloved Yogi, and his distant relationship with this established team. Keane really wasn't a bad guy at all, more like a victim of circumstance who was never accorded much respect by a group that was very much set in its ways. All through the season, everyone kept expecting the Yankees to hit the switch -- seasons like this just did not happen to the Yankees -- but it never happened. It was quite shocking. Minnesota ran away with the pennant -- the White Sox were in their accustomed second, seven games out, the Orioles finished eight behind, while the Yankees were a distant 25 games from the top. I think most of us expected a bounce-back in 1966, but they got off to a terrible start, going 4-16 before Keane was fired and Houk came back, which even at that we figured, okay, back to business as usual, but of course it didn't happen (and Houk had burned a lot of bridges as GM with the players who used to love him.) One small bit of sunshine from the 65 team -- 21-year-old Roy White and 19-year-old Bobby Murcer each made their late-season debuts, one day apart, Roy on September 7 and Bobby on September 8. The less-heralded and sometimes unfairly derided Horace Clarke also made his debut that year at the age of 26. Well I got that out of my system. Sorry for the prolix prose. I increasingly believe that there are more similarities between that team and this one than I would have hoped, but still we are talking about different eras, different personalities, so who really knows. We'll find out soon enough.
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