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Post by Max on Jan 15, 2024 16:03:02 GMT -5
And, that makes me miss George even more. What am I talking about, you may ask? Well, if Hal really was "cheap," then why does he not blast his highest paid players in the papers more frequently? He could have kept that money for himself. If there was any way George did care about money, he hated paying players who did not produce. is Hal using the "spend money to make money" scheme? ls that why he never gets angry at underachieving Yankees? Hal is simply a very different man that his father. George loved the backpages...Hal not so much. But on balance, I think Yankee fans are forunate to have the Steinbrenner family owning the team.
George didn't have to deal with a Luxury tax. In my opinion, Hal puts money back into the team just like George did, but without all the drama.
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Post by Max on Jan 15, 2024 16:04:18 GMT -5
Hal is simply a very different man that his father. George loved the backpages...Hal not so much. But on balance, I think Yankee fans are forunate to have the Steinbrenner family owning the team. Beats CBS. Absolutely, by a country mile to say the least. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 15, 2024 16:45:46 GMT -5
Hal is simply a very different man that his father. George loved the backpages...Hal not so much. But on balance, I think Yankee fans are forunate to have the Steinbrenner family owning the team.
George didn't have to deal with a Luxury tax. In my opinion, Hal puts money back into the team just like George did, but without all the drama.
Do you really think that the luxury tax would prevent george from spending his money to try to get a ws? He sure as heck wouldnt have cut payroll like hal did several years ago. Or would have been wasting cole like hal has so far ? Do you think he would be wasting judge’s prime years like hal has so far ? |
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Post by Max on Jan 15, 2024 17:03:29 GMT -5
George didn't have to deal with a Luxury tax. In my opinion, Hal puts money back into the team just like George did, but without all the drama.
Do you really think that the luxury tax would prevent george from spending his money to try to get a ws? He sure as heck wouldnt have cut payroll like hal did several years ago. Or would have been wasting cole like hal has so far ? Do you think he would be wasting judge’s prime years like hal has so far ?
I don't know, I can't read George's spirit's mind. When I get to Heaven someday I will ask him. I promise.
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 15, 2024 17:11:09 GMT -5
Do you really think that the luxury tax would prevent george from spending his money to try to get a ws? He sure as heck wouldnt have cut payroll like hal did several years ago. Or would have been wasting cole like hal has so far ? Do you think he would be wasting judge’s prime years like hal has so far ?
I don't know, I can't read George's spirit's mind. When I get to Heaven someday I will ask him. I promise.
Dont have to when everyone knows that george cared more about winning than just about anything else . I am not saying he wouldnt care about the luxury tax but his past behavior and as much as he cared about winning , one can reasonably assume that he wouldnt have let the luxury tax restrict him like hal did |
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Post by ypaterson on Jan 15, 2024 21:48:35 GMT -5
Hal is simply a very different man that his father. George loved the backpages...Hal not so much. But on balance, I think Yankee fans are forunate to have the Steinbrenner family owning the team.
George didn't have to deal with a Luxury tax. In my opinion, Hal puts money back into the team just like George did, but without all the drama.
I think that is accurate. George invested money in the Yankees so he could make money with the Yankees. He had a long term plan to "build a brand" but it was all done with a business model in mind. George wouldn't have blown past the LT in part because he was smart enough to know that the rest of the owners would just agree among themselves to make it even more restirctive if they got upset. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 15, 2024 21:50:26 GMT -5
George didn't have to deal with a Luxury tax. In my opinion, Hal puts money back into the team just like George did, but without all the drama.
I think that is accurate. George invested money in the Yankees so he could make money with the Yankees. He had a long term plan to "build a brand" but it was all done with a business model in mind. George wouldn't have blown past the LT in part because he was smart enough to know that the rest of the owners would just agree among themselves to make it even more restirctive if they got upset. I disagree , he spent money to win and winning in his eyes was building the brand . |
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Post by fwclipper51 on Jan 17, 2024 13:26:17 GMT -5
I think that is accurate. George invested money in the Yankees so he could make money with the Yankees. He had a long term plan to "build a brand" but it was all done with a business model in mind. George wouldn't have blown past the LT in part because he was smart enough to know that the rest of the owners would just agree among themselves to make it even more restirctive if they got upset. I disagree , he spent money to win and winning in his eyes was building the brand .
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Post by Max on Jan 17, 2024 13:45:24 GMT -5
George didn't have to deal with a Luxury tax. In my opinion, Hal puts money back into the team just like George did, but without all the drama.
I think that is accurate. George invested money in the Yankees so he could make money with the Yankees. He had a long term plan to "build a brand" but it was all done with a business model in mind. George wouldn't have blown past the LT in part because he was smart enough to know that the rest of the owners would just agree among themselves to make it even more restirctive if they got upset.
Exactly. Let me rephrase what I said. George didn't have to deal with the stricter Luxury tax penalties in today's MLB. But, he did have to deal with the LT.
Beltran recently shared a story that he met with George and George told him that because of the Luxury Tax he couldn't give Beltran a multi year contract, but he could sign him to a 1 year contract and renegotiate next season. Beltran signed with the Mets instead that off season.
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 17, 2024 16:02:52 GMT -5
He wouldnt be spending all that money on judge and cole and wasting them like his son hal has . I just simply dont buy that he would let the luxury tax control him like hal
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 17, 2024 16:21:36 GMT -5
He wouldnt be spending all that money on judge and cole and wasting them like his son hal has . I just simply dont buy that he would let the luxury tax control him like hal Aren't you one squawking about signing Torres because he'll be "too expensive"? |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 17, 2024 16:25:27 GMT -5
He wouldnt be spending all that money on judge and cole and wasting them like his son hal has . I just simply dont buy that he would let the luxury tax control him like hal Aren't you one squawking about signing Torres because he'll be "too expensive"? No , its soto that i think hal would think would be too expensive . I want to trade torres because i dont think he is worth the years he wants . Plus if they do re-sign soto i doubt they re-sign torres . |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 17, 2024 16:27:32 GMT -5
Aren't you one squawking about signing Torres because he'll be "too expensive"? No , its soto that i think hal would think would be too expensive . I want to trade torres because i dont think he is worth the years he wants . Plus if they do re-sign soto i doubt they re-sign torres . So...you'd be OK signing Torres for what you determine to be the "right" amount of years & money? |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 17, 2024 16:35:02 GMT -5
No , its soto that i think hal would think would be too expensive . I want to trade torres because i dont think he is worth the years he wants . Plus if they do re-sign soto i doubt they re-sign torres . So...you'd be OK signing Torres for what you determine to be the "right" amount of years & money? I dont care about money . Its the years that always concerns me more . And i doubt torres takes less than 6 years . Its why i hated the hicks deal from day one . Its why i am not a big fan of the judge deal . And why i wasnt sorry to see cano go . I personally wouldnt offer torres more than 4 years . He just isnt consistent enough as a hitter or good enough defensively to sign for longer than that . I also would rather re-sign soto instead |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 17, 2024 16:37:39 GMT -5
So...you'd be OK signing Torres for what you determine to be the "right" amount of years & money? I dont care about money . Its the years that always concerns me more . And i doubt torres takes less than 6 years . Its why i hated the hicks deal from day one . Its why i am not a big fan of the judge deal . And why i wasnt sorry to see cano go . I personally wouldnt offer torres more than 4 years . He just isnt consistent enough as a hitter or good enough defensively to sign for longer than that . I also would rather re-sign soto instead So...since you don't care about money, you'd be good with Torres 4 years @ $20M per?. |
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