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Post by inger on Jan 18, 2024 12:04:14 GMT -5
This is a two part question and answer. Yes, the team is better right now than last season, but Yes, they still have more work to be done if they want to reach their real goals. You said this much better than I did. I voted that were better. Because we are. I could have also voted that we have more to do. Because that’s true as well. Which way did you vote if you don’t mind telling? …
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Post by Oburg Bob on Jan 18, 2024 13:14:18 GMT -5
Yes, but the development of young pitching and good health is the key in the long run. Our offense is much more balanced and we should be able to score more runs. Soto and Judge should inspire their teammates to be more patient and focused as each at bat could build a big inning. The new hitting coach has stated that he will allow each hitter play to his individual strengths Ang we could see more "small ball" mixed in. One or two young position players and/or pitchers, need to develop into productive backups when injuries hit I know this sounds a little too hopeful, but I feel this is the year. #28
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Post by Max on Jan 18, 2024 13:34:04 GMT -5
Hard question to answer for me. I don't think there is any question we are better offensively. While we have 5 starters slotted in the rottation there is a real lack of depth behind them. This is concerning since we seem to need 8 or 9 starters to get through a season and this year we have question marks with Rodon and Cortez. Cash always seems to find BP arms that excede expectations but right now the pen also doesn't look deep from a quality perspective.
I heard that Rodon lost weight.
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 18, 2024 14:29:51 GMT -5
Team is better but it needs more pitching . I am not convinced that the rotation is a championship caliber one . I also am worried about how injury prone it is .
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Post by qimqam on Jan 18, 2024 14:42:48 GMT -5
for sure much better. even last season's team was technically much better than 82 wins but when judge is out for 2 months and rizzo (who was having a great year) for 4 months, that's a huge dropoff. add in stanton, dj & all the pitching injuries and voila - 82 wins. this season for the 1st time in a many years, we actually have an OF even w the questions about soto's defense. judge, soto, verdugo w GG'er grisham backing them up is much better than clown show (gallo, hicks, cabrera, mckkiney, bauers etc) we ran out there last season. another is we have 4 guys in their walk years (soto, torres, rizzo & verdugo). barring injury, that portends a good season. still think we're a top notch starter short. if we don't get one, then we have to hope rodon & cortes return to form and everyone stays healthy. that's a lot to ask. This! I was more confident with the Starting pitching going into last year ... I dont think anyone would have expected Rodon to be as much of a disaster as he was and that Nester would be an injury/ bust. I expected the Yankees to be a 96+ win team. But like you said, with all of the injuries that they had ... they were an 82 win team The additions of Soto, Verdugo, and a healthy Judge alone would make last years team, even with the SP injuries, a 90+ win team. If, and it is a big If, Rodon is healthy and pitches to 80% of what he was in 2021 / 2022 and Stroman pitches 150 inn ... The Yankees awill be a 98 win playoff team
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 18, 2024 14:52:55 GMT -5
for sure much better. even last season's team was technically much better than 82 wins but when judge is out for 2 months and rizzo (who was having a great year) for 4 months, that's a huge dropoff. add in stanton, dj & all the pitching injuries and voila - 82 wins. this season for the 1st time in a many years, we actually have an OF even w the questions about soto's defense. judge, soto, verdugo w GG'er grisham backing them up is much better than clown show (gallo, hicks, cabrera, mckkiney, bauers etc) we ran out there last season. another is we have 4 guys in their walk years (soto, torres, rizzo & verdugo). barring injury, that portends a good season. still think we're a top notch starter short. if we don't get one, then we have to hope rodon & cortes return to form and everyone stays healthy. that's a lot to ask. This! I was more confident with the Starting pitching going into last year ... I dont think anyone would have expected Rodon to be as much of a disaster as he was and that Nester would be an injury/ bust. I expected the Yankees to be a 96+ win team. But like you said, with all of the injuries that they had ... they were an 82 win team The additions of Soto, Verdugo, and a healthy Judge alone would make last years team, even with the SP injuries, a 90+ win team. If, and it is a big If, Rodon is healthy and pitches to 80% of what he was in 2021 / 2022 and Stroman pitches 150 inn ... The Yankees awill be a 98 win playoff team . Even if healthy i am not convinced they are much more than a 95 win team, which as of now would likely enough to win the division anyway
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Post by qimqam on Jan 18, 2024 18:44:41 GMT -5
This! I was more confident with the Starting pitching going into last year ... I dont think anyone would have expected Rodon to be as much of a disaster as he was and that Nester would be an injury/ bust. I expected the Yankees to be a 96+ win team. But like you said, with all of the injuries that they had ... they were an 82 win team The additions of Soto, Verdugo, and a healthy Judge alone would make last years team, even with the SP injuries, a 90+ win team. If, and it is a big If, Rodon is healthy and pitches to 80% of what he was in 2021 / 2022 and Stroman pitches 150 inn ... The Yankees awill be a 98 win playoff team . Even if healthy i am not convinced they are much more than a 95 win team, which as of now would likely enough to win the division anyway I know it's not going to happen but ... A healthy Cole, Rodon, Stroman, Cortes is definitely top 5, maybe 3, possibly 1 in the MLB Same goes for a healthy Judge, Soto, Gleyber, Verdugo, Rizzo, DJL, Volpe, Trevino, Stanton
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Post by bumper on Jan 18, 2024 18:59:39 GMT -5
still 175 free agents outstanding with less than 4 weeks to go. hey GMs & agents, time to get off the pot ...
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 18, 2024 19:32:31 GMT -5
for sure much better. even last season's team was technically much better than 82 wins but when judge is out for 2 months and rizzo (who was having a great year) for 4 months, that's a huge dropoff. add in stanton, dj & all the pitching injuries and voila - 82 wins. this season for the 1st time in a many years, we actually have an OF even w the questions about soto's defense. judge, soto, verdugo w GG'er grisham backing them up is much better than clown show (gallo, hicks, cabrera, mckkiney, bauers etc) we ran out there last season. another is we have 4 guys in their walk years (soto, torres, rizzo & verdugo). barring injury, that portends a good season. still think we're a top notch starter short. if we don't get one, then we have to hope rodon & cortes return to form and everyone stays healthy. that's a lot to ask. This! I was more confident with the Starting pitching going into last year ... I dont think anyone would have expected Rodon to be as much of a disaster as he was and that Nester would be an injury/ bust. I expected the Yankees to be a 96+ win team. But like you said, with all of the injuries that they had ... they were an 82 win team The additions of Soto, Verdugo, and a healthy Judge alone would make last years team, even with the SP injuries, a 90+ win team. If, and it is a big If, Rodon is healthy and pitches to 80% of what he was in 2021 / 2022 and Stroman pitches 150 inn ... The Yankees awill be a 98 win playoff team I agree with everything there except for cortez . Before 22 he never threw 100 innings in one season in the majors before . And he was hurt twice in 22 . I dont know how anyone could not seen last season coming . That is why i really want them to get another starter to move him to the bullpen .
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Post by Renfield on Jan 18, 2024 20:03:29 GMT -5
The Yanks should be improved if for no other reason that there shouldn't be so many black holes in the line-up. Pitching still dependent on some folks recovering from injury, tho.
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Post by bigjeep on Jan 19, 2024 9:29:20 GMT -5
still 175 free agents outstanding with less than 4 weeks to go. hey GMs & agents, time to get off the pot ... pot?
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Post by fwclipper51 on Jan 19, 2024 17:50:15 GMT -5
Yes, the team has improved, but we still need more pitching, which still is 90% of the game. We still need some help in the bullpen, another veteran reliever to help out Holmes. Another veteran hurler for the back end of the starting rotation. Hopefully, one of the kids will step up and to do the job.
Clipper
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 19, 2024 18:07:23 GMT -5
Yes, the team has improved, but we still need more pitching, which still is 90% of the game. We still need some help in the bullpen, another veteran reliever to help out Holmes. Another veteran hurler for the back end of the starting rotation. Hopefully, one of the kids will step up and to do the job.
Clipper Well you can forget about hader , the astros sign him for 5 years . Thats an insane length for a guy who pitches one inning
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jan 21, 2024 11:06:28 GMT -5
I think it's really clear we still need to address pitching, both SP and the pen. I did a real quick look at last years team and I think there are 15 pitchers who threw over 600 innings who are no longer on the squad. That is just crazy turnover. I think we've added 5 arms who combined for about 250 innings last year. Hopefully a healthy Rodon, Cortez, Effross and Gil can eat up some of those innings and a couple of the kids on the farm can contribute, but I'd be really shocked if we didn't add a more experience arm or two before the season starts.
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