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Post by ypaterson on Jan 23, 2024 21:41:15 GMT -5
New York surprisingly is the only club to offer the superstar a contract The New York Yankees already have shocked the baseball world once this offseason, could they do it again? New York landed one of the best players in baseball by completing a blockbuster trade with the San Diego Padres for superstar slugger Juan Soto. The Yankees also have been busy improving other areas of the club as well. The Yankees look like a much different team already than they did at the end of the 2023 season. New York already should be considered among the best teams in the American League, but landing another starting pitcher would go a long way. New York could use at least one more starter to give the club more depth and options. If the Yankees could land another star instead of a mid-tier option, it would just help the club even more. The Yankees have been linked on multiple occasions to the 2023 National League Cy Young Award Blake Snell who remains available in free agency. While the Yankees haven't gotten a deal done to this point, they surprisingly are the only team that actually has formally offered him a contract, according to MLB.com's Mark Feinsand. "The Yankees reportedly offered Snell a six-year, $150 million contract, but the reigning NL Cy Young winner turned it down, wanting either a higher average annual value – a deal worth at least $30 million per year – or a longer contract," Feinsand said. "New York’s offer is the only actual offer that has been extended to Snell, according to a source, though a number of teams have expressed interest in the lefty. "Many believe Snell is seeking a deal worth more than $200 million after winning his second Cy Young Award, a figure that hasn’t been out there to this point in the offseason. It remains to be seen whether the Yankees – who have since added Marcus Stroman to their rotation – will take another crack at Snell, but the (Los Angeles Angels) and (San Francisco Giants) could also get into the mix for the 31-year-old." It's unclear what the Yankees will do, but don't rule them out on the Snell sweepstakes. www.si.com/mlb/yankees/news/yankees-have-offered-contract-to-superstar-could-signing-be-on-way-pat3
Was that a typo ? 180 over 5 would average out to $36 per season... I would go $36 per year for Snell on a 2 year deal. |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Jan 23, 2024 22:55:26 GMT -5
Read the room, Blake.
He's never reached 181 innings in a season, has a high BB9 rate, and has been pretty inconsistent throughout his career. If you get 2018/2023 Blake, great, pay him all the money. If you get the other years, anything over $25mm/per is a ripoff.
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 23, 2024 23:40:27 GMT -5
Read the room, Blake. He's never reached 181 innings in a season, has a high BB9 rate, and has been pretty inconsistent throughout his career. If you get 2018/2023 Blake, great, pay him all the money. If you get the other years, anything over $25mm/per is a ripoff. I wonder who is going to sign first, Snell or Monty? |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 23, 2024 23:48:27 GMT -5
Read the room, Blake. He's never reached 181 innings in a season, has a high BB9 rate, and has been pretty inconsistent throughout his career. If you get 2018/2023 Blake, great, pay him all the money. If you get the other years, anything over $25mm/per is a ripoff. I wonder who is going to sign first, Snell or Monty? I say monty . Maybe with texas |
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Post by nyborn on Jan 24, 2024 3:55:58 GMT -5
Is our front office pride damaged regarding signing Monty? I mean the guy wanted to play here and they haven't even made him an offer.
Monty made our pitching coach look bad by "getting better" after being traded - simply by adding a pitch we wouldn't allow him. (Story I heard was something like that - an extra pitch.)
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 24, 2024 4:14:32 GMT -5
Is our front office pride damaged regarding signing Monty? I mean the guy wanted to play here and they haven't even made him an offer. Monty made our pitching coach look bad by "getting better" after being traded - simply by adding a pitch we wouldn't allow him. (Story I heard was something like that - an extra pitch.) Its cashman being too stubborn to admit he screwed up . I think its at the height of stupidity that they havent even made him an offer . |
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 24, 2024 9:26:12 GMT -5
Is our front office pride damaged regarding signing Monty? I mean the guy wanted to play here and they haven't even made him an offer. Monty made our pitching coach look bad by "getting better" after being traded - simply by adding a pitch we wouldn't allow him. (Story I heard was something like that - an extra pitch.) Its cashman being too stubborn to admit he screwed up . I think its at the height of stupidity that they havent even made him an offer . According to the rumor mill, Monty wants to go back to Texas and is waiting for them to sort out their local TV broadcast issues. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jan 24, 2024 11:47:34 GMT -5
Read the room, Blake. He's never reached 181 innings in a season, has a high BB9 rate, and has been pretty inconsistent throughout his career. If you get 2018/2023 Blake, great, pay him all the money. If you get the other years, anything over $25mm/per is a ripoff. Baseball is an evolving game and I've hads to try to think differently about a number of things. The old MLB workhorse is almost extinct. Last year in MLB there were only 5 starting pitchers who threw 200 innings or more. Only 22 who threw as many as 180, that's less than 1 per team. Teams no longer rely on 5 starters (4 for some of us older guys) who make 30 + starts and each throw 180 to 200 innings. More likely, Teams will use 7 or 8 starters of guys who average between 5 and 6 innings per start and rely heavily on BPs to eat up innings. The other thing I've had to adjust to is the money. At one time $25mm per would have seemed unbelievable. |
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Post by Max on Jan 24, 2024 12:01:06 GMT -5
I doubt it too, but it was an opinion, not a prediction.
And it is my opinion that i doubt he takes such a deal
Obviously, it was your "opinion". I was just adding to my post that I also wouldn't expect Snell to accept that contract offer. I have a question... Do you usually get snarky even when someone agrees with you?
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Post by qimqam on Jan 24, 2024 12:01:30 GMT -5
Is our front office pride damaged regarding signing Monty? I mean the guy wanted to play here and they haven't even made him an offer. Monty made our pitching coach look bad by "getting better" after being traded - simply by adding a pitch we wouldn't allow him. (Story I heard was something like that - an extra pitch.) Its cashman being too stubborn to admit he screwed up . I think its at the height of stupidity that they havent even made him an offer . Maybe they shouldnt have traded Monty in the first place ... What do you think about that? |
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Post by Max on Jan 24, 2024 12:04:54 GMT -5
I would have offered 180 mill over 5 . Take it or leave it
Was that a typo ? 180 over 5 would average out to $36 per season... I would go $36 per year for Snell on a 2 year deal.
Even in MLB money, that's a huge over payment. If the Yankees were to offer Snell $36 million per season, I would imagine at least 2 MLB Pitchers would be excited about that contract offer. Snell and Corbin Burnes.
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Post by ypaterson on Jan 24, 2024 13:02:10 GMT -5
Was that a typo ? 180 over 5 would average out to $36 per season... I would go $36 per year for Snell on a 2 year deal.
Even in MLB money, that's a huge over payment. If the Yankees were to offer Snell $36 million per season, I would imagine at least 2 MLB Pitchers would be excited about that contract offer. Snell and Corbin Burnes.
Hey Max...What do you think about a payroll strategy that overpays a guy for a short term deal rather than the long term committments ? For instance, do you think the Yankees would have be better in the long run paying Judge $54 M per for 5 years rather than $40 for 9 ? I think the post was a typo but it did make me wonder an overpay for 2 years might be better for the Yankees than a 5 or 6 year contract. What do you say ? |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 24, 2024 13:14:07 GMT -5
Even in MLB money, that's a huge over payment. If the Yankees were to offer Snell $36 million per season, I would imagine at least 2 MLB Pitchers would be excited about that contract offer. Snell and Corbin Burnes.
Hey Max...What do you think about a payroll strategy that overpays a guy for a short term deal rather than the long term committments ? For instance, do you think the Yankees would have be better in the long run paying Judge $54 M per for 5 years rather than $40 for 9 ? I think the post was a typo but it did make me wonder an overpay for 2 years might be better for the Yankees than a 5 or 6 year contract. What do you say ? At the time I had said re DJ...rather than 6 @ $15M, why not 5 @ $18M or even 4 @ $22.5M? Why not? Of course...the LT. |
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Post by inger on Jan 24, 2024 14:26:27 GMT -5
And it is my opinion that i doubt he takes such a deal
Obviously, it was your "opinion". I was just adding to my post that I also wouldn't expect Snell to accept that contract offer. I have a question... Do you usually get snarky even when someone agrees with you?
Oh, the SNARK, babe, has such teeth, dear And it shows them pearly white Just a jackknife has old MacHeath, babe And he keeps it, ah, out of sight You know when that SNARK bites with his teeth, babe Scarlet billows start to spread Fancy gloves, oh, wears old MacHeath, babe So there's never, never a trace of red… |
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Post by Max on Jan 24, 2024 14:38:41 GMT -5
Even in MLB money, that's a huge over payment. If the Yankees were to offer Snell $36 million per season, I would imagine at least 2 MLB Pitchers would be excited about that contract offer. Snell and Corbin Burnes.
Hey Max...What do you think about a payroll strategy that overpays a guy for a short term deal rather than the long term committments ? For instance, do you think the Yankees would have be better in the long run paying Judge $54 M per for 5 years rather than $40 for 9 ? I think the post was a typo but it did make me wonder an overpay for 2 years might be better for the Yankees than a 5 or 6 year contract. What do you say ?
Hi Pat.. In my opinion, it depends on the player. As for Judge, the Luxury Tax isn't going to give the Yankees much room to build a team around Judge should the Yankees pay him that amount of money for fewer years without going way over the Luxury Tax threshold. 54 million is about 23% of the Luxury Tax threshold. I doubt that Snell would accept the contract I think the Yankees should offer him. 3/75 with innings pitched incentives. If Snell says no that contract, I'd rather the Yankees wait a year and use some of that money to sign Burnes. Not many teams would be able to match up against the Yankees 2 Aces (Cole, Burnes).
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