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Post by JEGnj on Apr 17, 2024 20:15:29 GMT -5
You can also look it like in real life. The Yankees are a young team you have a few guys are battling to earn a spot and fear if they don't perform they get dropped down. The Yankee Pen is a revolving door up and down. Stanton is the old untouchable guy at work that gets paid to do nothing and take a spot from someone else. Stanton is crushing a few HRs but he is still an easy out unless he fets hold of one. He doesn't play the field. He doesn't run. His security on the team is untouchable. He is paid as one of the best in the game when he isn't even close. If I was a fringe player busting my butt to make the team Stanton was piss me off.
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Post by rizzuto on Apr 17, 2024 21:28:45 GMT -5
OKAY... In todays game (April 17, last series game with Toronto), Verdugo his a ground ball to 1st, carried his bat a third of the way down the line. He couldn't be running hard if he is caring his bat. Just an observation. I'm not sure about that. At one point in my youth, perhaps the fastest I ever ran was carrying a burrito. You can at least squeeze a bat while running...not a burrito.  |
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Post by kaybli on Apr 17, 2024 22:04:22 GMT -5
OKAY... In todays game (April 17, last series game with Toronto), Verdugo his a ground ball to 1st, carried his bat a third of the way down the line. He couldn't be running hard if he is caring his bat. Just an observation. I'm not sure about that. At one point in my youth, perhaps the fastest I ever ran was carrying a burrito. You can at least squeeze a bat while running...not a burrito. Why were you running so fast carrying a burrito? Was someone trying to steal the burrito from you? We need more details. |
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Post by inger on Apr 17, 2024 22:56:55 GMT -5
I'm not sure about that. At one point in my youth, perhaps the fastest I ever ran was carrying a burrito. You can at least squeeze a bat while running...not a burrito. Why were you running so fast carrying a burrito? Was someone trying to steal the burrito from you? We need more details. I think I know. I’ve heard that down to the Loosianna swamps they often have burrito carryin races. In the end it doesn’t matter how fast y’all run or what place yer in. The winner is the one that can resist eatin the burrito the longest.The runnin is just customary and ta keep away from the gators. The gator snatchin is for round two… |
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Post by themartian on Apr 18, 2024 5:27:43 GMT -5
You can also look it like in real life. The Yankees are a young team you have a few guys are battling to earn a spot and fear if they don't perform they get dropped down. The Yankee Pen is a revolving door up and down. Stanton is the old untouchable guy at work that gets paid to do nothing and take a spot from someone else. Stanton is crushing a few HRs but he is still an easy out unless he fets hold of one. He doesn't play the field. He doesn't run. His security on the team is untouchable. He is paid as one of the best in the game when he isn't even close. If I was a fringe player busting my butt to make the team Stanton was piss me off. They're all members of the same players union which rewards veteran players. They all know the rules and they bargain for them. They're in line for the same benefits, assuming they can play at an MVP level in their early to mid 20s like Stanton did. |
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Post by bumper on Apr 18, 2024 6:34:38 GMT -5
Stanton getting a lot of hate for a guy with a .861 OPS. agree. hatred for him runs deep and has had years to fester. but bet judge or soto don't hate him. the kids do look up to him. other teams still respect and fear him.
i get it - the salary. the injuries. can't run. etc ... he certainly hasn't justified the big contract but he's gonna play so fans better hope he continues to play the way he has because they're not swallowing $100 mil.
for the season overall the numbers have been respectable. leads team in HRs, .254 BA and .861 OPS. normally you'd sign up for that. over his his last 9 games (.343 BA 4 HR 9 RBI 1.138 OPS 18% K rate), only soto has been more productive. of course, this could just be "the usual" stanton gets hot for a week thing. but enjoy while it's happening because the alternative ain't pretty.
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Post by inger on Apr 18, 2024 7:04:08 GMT -5
Stanton getting a lot of hate for a guy with a .861 OPS. agree. hatred for him runs deep and has had years to fester. but bet judge or soto don't hate him. the kids do look up to him. other teams still respect and fear him.
i get it - the salary. the injuries. can't run. etc ... he certainly hasn't justified the big contract but he's gonna play so fans better hope he continues to play the way he has because they're not swallowing $100 mil.
for the season overall the numbers have been respectable. leads team in HRs, .254 BA and .861 OPS. normally you'd sign up for that. over his his last 9 games (.343 BA 4 HR 9 RBI 1.138 OPS 18% K rate), only soto has been more productive. of course, this could just be "the usual" stanton gets hot for a week thing. but enjoy while it's happening because the alternative ain't pretty.
Root, root, root for the home team If they don’t win it’s a shame For its one, two, three strikes your out At the old ball game… |
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Post by ypaterson on Apr 18, 2024 9:19:55 GMT -5
I respect Stanton as a professional and hope he has a big year. But the Yankees would be better off in the long run with Grisham seeing more time in center than Judge and with the most important big toe in New York sports getting protected from the stresses of playing baseball every day.
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Post by kaybli on Apr 18, 2024 10:23:22 GMT -5
I respect Stanton as a professional and hope he has a big year. But the Yankees would be better off in the long run with Grisham seeing more time in center than Judge and with the most important big toe in New York sports getting protected from the stresses of playing baseball every day. Grisham is not an everyday player as his bat is too weak. Maybe if he can repeat his 2020/2021 numbers but the last two years have been miserable. Got to wait for Dominguez to move Judge off CF. |
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Post by JEGnj on Apr 18, 2024 10:25:23 GMT -5
I guess right now all the players look like there is good chemistry. The Yankees are finding ways to win without Cole and a few guys still not hitting their stride yet.
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Post by bumper on Apr 18, 2024 10:48:59 GMT -5
I respect Stanton as a professional and hope he has a big year. But the Yankees would be better off in the long run with Grisham seeing more time in center than Judge and with the most important big toe in New York sports getting protected from the stresses of playing baseball every day. Grisham is not an everyday player as his bat is too weak. Maybe if he can repeat his 2020/2021 numbers but the last two years have been miserable. Got to wait for Dominguez to move Judge off CF. agree. i rarely "criticize" a player but i will say so far (and based on his last 2 seasons), grisham has not shown himself to be a credible ML bat and especially not trading his bat for stanton's (until stanton proves otherwise). get the protect judge thing but at best, consider grisham nothing more than a late inning defensive replacement or occasional give judge a DH day player. think so far boone has done a good job picking the right spots to DH judge. in grisham's defense, it's gotta be close to impossible to getting any timing when you've only had 10 ABs. on the other hand, he has to do his best to stay ready and make the most of those opps. |
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Post by ypaterson on Apr 18, 2024 11:03:21 GMT -5
Grisham is not an everyday player as his bat is too weak. Maybe if he can repeat his 2020/2021 numbers but the last two years have been miserable. Got to wait for Dominguez to move Judge off CF. agree. i rarely "criticize" a player but i will say so far (and based on his last 2 seasons), grisham has not shown himself to be a credible ML bat and especially not trading his bat for stanton's (until stanton proves otherwise). get the protect judge thing but at best, consider grisham nothing more than a late inning defensive replacement or occasional give judge a DH day player. think so far boone has done a good job picking the right spots to DH judge. in grisham's defense, it's gotta be close to impossible to getting any timing when you've only had 10 ABs. on the other hand, he has to do his best to stay ready and make the most of those opps. Check out who played center field for the teams that went to the WS last year ? Alex Thomas got into 125 games in center and carried an OPS of 647. Jake Meyers raked a neat 678. I guess that dispels any notion that a team cannot win with a fielder first guy playing center. Grisham gives the Yankees a better defensive outfield and minimizes the chances of losing Judge for an extended stay on the IL. I would not play him every day...but I would give him more inniings than Judge. Even with Soto on this team, Judge is the engine. And defense wins game too. |
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Post by ypaterson on Apr 18, 2024 11:08:40 GMT -5
I respect Stanton as a professional and hope he has a big year. But the Yankees would be better off in the long run with Grisham seeing more time in center than Judge and with the most important big toe in New York sports getting protected from the stresses of playing baseball every day. Grisham is not an everyday player as his bat is too weak. Maybe if he can repeat his 2020/2021 numbers but the last two years have been miserable. Got to wait for Dominguez to move Judge off CF. You have a lot of confidence in a guy who has 31 career at bats. I am a prospect hugger and love the idea that Jones, Dominguez, Pereira or some other young guys will make the current cast expendable...but that is a lot to ask of a 20 year old rookie. |
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Post by themartian on Apr 18, 2024 11:37:07 GMT -5
agree. i rarely "criticize" a player but i will say so far (and based on his last 2 seasons), grisham has not shown himself to be a credible ML bat and especially not trading his bat for stanton's (until stanton proves otherwise). get the protect judge thing but at best, consider grisham nothing more than a late inning defensive replacement or occasional give judge a DH day player. think so far boone has done a good job picking the right spots to DH judge. in grisham's defense, it's gotta be close to impossible to getting any timing when you've only had 10 ABs. on the other hand, he has to do his best to stay ready and make the most of those opps. Check out who played center field for the teams that went to the WS last year ? Alex Thomas got into 125 games in center and carried an OPS of 647. Jake Meyers raked a neat 678. I guess that dispels any notion that a team cannot win with a fielder first guy playing center. Grisham gives the Yankees a better defensive outfield and minimizes the chances of losing Judge for an extended stay on the IL. I would not play him every day...but I would give him more inniings than Judge. Even with Soto on this team, Judge is the engine. And defense wins game too. Grisham has proven something though which are his failings as a hitter. He's been a poor man's Gallo with the bat since 2022 now. He has no upside, you know you are surrendering offense every time you pencil in his name. Dominguez has (potentially big) upside. That's also different than a 23 year old Alek Thomas from 2023. If he shows he can't hit for 2+ straight seasons by age 27, he may end up being a reserve/4th OF. But going in to 2023 he at least had upside. And Jake Meyer's Astros didn't go to the WS last year, and they played McCormick more than Meyers. Meyers owns only 10 post season bats in his career with the Astros. The Rangers got a very good all around season from Leody Tavares in CF. Grisham is passable as a 4th OF, he at least brings very strong defense to the table. He's best used as a defensive replacement in blowouts. I would really wonder though if he'll be non tendered though for 2025. He's not worth 5.5 million and next year he'd probably get a raise if they go to arb with him. |
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Post by qimqam on Apr 18, 2024 12:32:18 GMT -5
Volpe: A Would have been an A+ except his throwing errors need to be stopped (Hard judgement)
Soto: A Would have been an A+ but his fielding needs improvement (Might be picky)
Cabrera: A+ Definitely more than expected. In fact if he keeps hitting, he is better than LeMahieu because of speed and switch hitting
Stanton: D Except for good hitting a few games in a row (and not many) he is a wasted AB, can't run at all and can't field
Rizzo: B Though there is no more concussion, he just doesn't seem himself. Too many odd fielding miscues and hitting seems slightly off
Torres: C- Not hitting well, fielding is questionable, baseball decision making is not good.
Berti: C Just haven't seen much from him. Fielding is good, but 6 Ks in 6 games doesn't do anything for me
Trevino B Throwing to second could improve and batting seems to be picking up
Judge C- If it wasn't for his walks, his OBP would be in the bottom of the pack. He needs to get it going.
Wells: B Seems to be hitting the ball well, but mainly long fly outs. Could be better at throwing to second
Grisham: D Probably be an F, if it wasn't his center field play to relieve Judge
Jones NA Who knows?
Smith NA Another, who knows?
Terrible Grading if you ask me
Volpe A+ ... He was leading the league in WAR up to a couple games ago
Soto A+ Done everything possible ... I havent seen this so called fielding issue
Cabrera A+ ... Ridiculous ... Fast yes ...but he's no longer a switch hitter
Stanton C ... been much better than expected
Rizzo D ... Been terrible in the field and hasnt hit the ball hard much at all
Torres ... F so far .. cant hit or field
Berti ... C+ thought he was great in the field and can run
Trevino C- ... finally starting hitting ...fielding is way overrated
Judge D ...walks have saved him from an F
Wells D ... hasnt hit or field
Grisham F ... Wow has he sucked !!! How did he get a D ????
Smith F ... Has made the Yankees worse just by taking up a roster space
Verdugo C+ ... Not sure why he wasnt there but he's hit ok, fields good, pretty damn fast and hustles like crazy
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