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Post by 1955nyyfan on Apr 23, 2024 8:45:50 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Apr 23, 2024 8:53:41 GMT -5
Good (and scary) article. We saw Volpe go off the charts good last year after the chicken parm dinner incident. So the question is, was the start to this season just another little hot spell for a .200 hitter? Or are these little spurts evidence of a much better hitter waiting to emerge from hiding? Why don’t these apparent advances seem to stick for him? A week or so ago I was thinking there was no way DJ was going to return and snatch the lead off role back. Now, I wonder… |
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Post by laurenfrances on Apr 23, 2024 13:15:01 GMT -5
I turned in wfan radio where the host mentioned Judge received his share of booing yesterday. His history tells you he will come around hitting with authority. Certainly spending ample time on IL during spring training slow his progression. Seems his lack of production has frustrated fans.
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Post by noetsi on Apr 23, 2024 15:42:12 GMT -5
Judge will always k a lot, you have to learn to live with it.
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Post by bumper on Apr 23, 2024 16:20:40 GMT -5
remember volpe starting off the season w very few swing & misses and now he's missing a lot. have the pitchers already figured him out. his time to adjust.
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Post by azbob643 on Apr 23, 2024 16:28:09 GMT -5
Volpe did not hit for high BA above A ball, although he did show some power at every MiL stop, just as he did last year. It's entirely possible that's the hitter he is.
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Post by ill636 on Apr 23, 2024 16:44:15 GMT -5
As I said before, in the beginning of the season Volpe was stepping toward the plate and swing at the ball. For the past six or seven games, he is stepping away from the play and swing hard... I don't see way the hitting coach doesn't see this? I know I am only a poster on this forum, but I have played a lot of baseball and coached a lot of baseball...
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Post by noetsi on Apr 23, 2024 17:56:43 GMT -5
Volpe did not hit for high BA above A ball, although he did show some power at every MiL stop, just as he did last year. It's entirely possible that's the hitter he is. bad hitting is acceptable at SS (Jeter was nearly unique in my experience of a great hitter and average fielder at that position for a long run). |
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Post by azbob643 on Apr 23, 2024 18:49:56 GMT -5
Volpe did not hit for high BA above A ball, although he did show some power at every MiL stop, just as he did last year. It's entirely possible that's the hitter he is. bad hitting is acceptable at SS (Jeter was nearly unique in my experience of a great hitter and average fielder at that position for a long run). I see your point but I’d amend it to say “mediocre” hitting, which is what Volpe showed at AA-AAA, is acceptable if the defense is elite and there are others in the lineup to pick up the offensive slack. A poor offensive team cannot afford a weak hitting SS. |
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Post by inger on Apr 24, 2024 12:04:59 GMT -5
bad hitting is acceptable at SS (Jeter was nearly unique in my experience of a great hitter and average fielder at that position for a long run). I see your point but I’d amend it to say “mediocre” hitting, which is what Volpe showed at AA-AAA, is acceptable if the defense is elite and there are others in the lineup to pick up the offensive slack. A poor offensive team cannot afford a weak hitting SS. Noetsi has some unusual takes on hitting. He loves bunting, condones an approach of hitting the ball softly through the holes in the defense, and requires a batting average of .275 with little concern for OBP or SLG. We love the boy to pieces, but trying to change or getting him to understand the modern game will drive you into a stupor… |
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Post by azbob643 on Apr 24, 2024 12:45:11 GMT -5
I see your point but I’d amend it to say “mediocre” hitting, which is what Volpe showed at AA-AAA, is acceptable if the defense is elite and there are others in the lineup to pick up the offensive slack. A poor offensive team cannot afford a weak hitting SS. Noetsi has some unusual takes on hitting. He loves bunting, condones an approach of hitting the ball softly through the holes in the defense, and requires a batting average of .275 with little concern for OBP or SLG. We love the boy to pieces, but trying to change or getting him to understand the modern game will drive you into a stupor… As I said, a good offensive team can afford the luxury of an elite fielding, relatively weak hitting SS, but unless I’ve misunderstood, a .275 BA even with a relatively low OPS is not “bad hitting”. The two best defensive Yankee SS, post-Didi, were Tyler Wade and an even better Andrew Velazquez. Wade actually had decent offensive numbers, but neither was a luxury the Yanks or other teams could afford. I’m somewhat “old school” in that I do believe it’s appropriate to play “small ball” at times, but hitting the ball hard has always been the best approach to hitting. We’ve seen the results when Stanton rockets a 105 MPH ground ball thru the infield…not enough time for IF to react. A hitter may get lucky on occasion, and Luis Arraez has been successful with generally “soft” contact, but “hitting the ball softly through the holes in the defense” is not an option at the ML level. |
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Post by rizzuto on Apr 24, 2024 12:55:16 GMT -5
Noetsi has some unusual takes on hitting. He loves bunting, condones an approach of hitting the ball softly through the holes in the defense, and requires a batting average of .275 with little concern for OBP or SLG. We love the boy to pieces, but trying to change or getting him to understand the modern game will drive you into a stupor… As I said, a good offensive team can afford the luxury of an elite fielding, relatively weak hitting SS, but unless I’ve misunderstood, a .275 BA even with a relatively low OPS is not “bad hitting”. The two best defensive Yankee SS, post-Didi, were Tyler Wade and an even better Andrew Velazquez. Wade actually had decent offensive numbers, but neither was a luxury the Yanks or other teams could afford. I’m somewhat “old school” in that I do believe it’s appropriate to play “small ball” at times, but hitting the ball hard has always been the best approach to hitting. We’ve seen the results when Stanton rockets a 105 MPH ground ball thru the infield…not enough time for IF to react. A hitter may get lucky on occasion, and Luis Arraez has been successful with generally “soft” contact, but “hitting the ball softly through the holes in the defense” is not an option at the ML level. Inger forgot a piece of Noetsi's batting philosophy. Essentially, batters should hit softly and steer the ball away from the defenders. No, I am not kidding. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Apr 24, 2024 13:04:00 GMT -5
I have not researched this in depth but to some degree feel the game has changed a bit since SS was considered primarily a defensive position and you could carry a weak bat there. Seems more good teams are getting both offensive and defensive performance from SS's.
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Post by azbob643 on Apr 24, 2024 13:04:28 GMT -5
As I said, a good offensive team can afford the luxury of an elite fielding, relatively weak hitting SS, but unless I’ve misunderstood, a .275 BA even with a relatively low OPS is not “bad hitting”. The two best defensive Yankee SS, post-Didi, were Tyler Wade and an even better Andrew Velazquez. Wade actually had decent offensive numbers, but neither was a luxury the Yanks or other teams could afford. I’m somewhat “old school” in that I do believe it’s appropriate to play “small ball” at times, but hitting the ball hard has always been the best approach to hitting. We’ve seen the results when Stanton rockets a 105 MPH ground ball thru the infield…not enough time for IF to react. A hitter may get lucky on occasion, and Luis Arraez has been successful with generally “soft” contact, but “hitting the ball softly through the holes in the defense” is not an option at the ML level. Inger forgot a piece of Noetsi's batting philosophy. Essentially, batters should hit softly and steer the ball away from the defenders. No, I am not kidding. Reminds me of the movie "It Happens Every Spring", in which the pitcher doctored the ball with a substance that will repel wood...like a baseball bat. |
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Post by inger on Apr 24, 2024 13:11:13 GMT -5
Inger forgot a piece of Noetsi's batting philosophy. Essentially, batters should hit softly and steer the ball away from the defenders. No, I am not kidding. Reminds me of the movie "It Happens Every Spring", in which the pitcher doctored the ball with a substance that will repel wood...like a baseball bat. Ray Milland… |
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