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Post by Max on Aug 31, 2024 11:30:48 GMT -5
The same can be said for some of the relief pitchers the Yankees have used this season. I'd would have liked to have seen the Yankees give a prospect like Neely a chance instead of trading him away for what seems to be in my opinion, a mediocre pitcher. nw, who started this thread, said the same thing when they traded him for Leiter. Maybe you're both right about him.
I hope that I'm wrong about Leiter. I posted on the day of the trade that I didn't like that trade. I think overall that Cashman has been a good GM, but I'm not fond of most of his trades the past 3 years. |
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 31, 2024 11:48:16 GMT -5
The loss of Loasigia was a much bigger deal than many of us thought when he went down in April. The 2021 / 22 version would have been a huge help this year.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Aug 31, 2024 11:49:13 GMT -5
nw, who started this thread, said the same thing when they traded him for Leiter. Maybe you're both right about him.
I hope that I'm wrong about Leiter. I posted on the day of the trade that I didn't like that trade. I think overall that Cashman has been a good GM, but I'm not fond of most of his trades the past 3 years. The Montas trade is the one that was the last straw with me about Cashman. To make that deal, he had to know 1) none of the pitchers he traded away would develop and more importantly, 2) that Montas would be healthy enough to help them, because if he wasn't going to be, they should've been traded for a pitcher who could've. So far Cashman has been lucky on the other side; none of the pitchers traded away have really broken through. Not yet. |
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Post by Max on Aug 31, 2024 11:55:09 GMT -5
I hope that I'm wrong about Leiter. I posted on the day of the trade that I didn't like that trade. I think overall that Cashman has been a good GM, but I'm not fond of most of his trades the past 3 years. The Montas trade is the one that was the last straw with me about Cashman. To make that deal, he had to know 1) none of the pitchers he traded away would develop and more importantly, 2) that Montas would be healthy enough to help them, because if he wasn't going to be, they should've been traded for a pitcher who could've. So far Cashman has been lucky on the other side; none of the pitchers traded away have really broken through. Not yet. What puzzled me about Cashman making the Montas trade was that it wasn't long before the trade that Montas was taken out of a game because of pain. The Gallo trade was another flop. Not to mention the Donaldson trade, which I hated, especially since the Yankees added Donaldson's full contract. |
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 31, 2024 11:55:51 GMT -5
I hope that I'm wrong about Leiter. I posted on the day of the trade that I didn't like that trade. I think overall that Cashman has been a good GM, but I'm not fond of most of his trades the past 3 years. The Montas trade is the one that was the last straw with me about Cashman. To make that deal, he had to know 1) none of the pitchers he traded away would develop and more importantly, 2) that Montas would be healthy enough to help them, because if he wasn't going to be, they should've been traded for a pitcher who could've. So far Cashman has been lucky on the other side; none of the pitchers traded away have really broken through. Not yet. If they A's want to send Sears back I'll pay for the Uber. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Aug 31, 2024 11:58:32 GMT -5
The Montas trade is the one that was the last straw with me about Cashman. To make that deal, he had to know 1) none of the pitchers he traded away would develop and more importantly, 2) that Montas would be healthy enough to help them, because if he wasn't going to be, they should've been traded for a pitcher who could've. So far Cashman has been lucky on the other side; none of the pitchers traded away have really broken through. Not yet. If they A's want to send Sears back I'll pay for the Uber. Sears has been OK but nothing special. He is pitching for a bad team, but he's also pitching in the best pitcher's park in the league. Doesn't mean he wouldn't become a top pitcher if the Rays or Astros picked him up, I guess. |
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Post by inger on Aug 31, 2024 11:59:16 GMT -5
The Montas trade is the one that was the last straw with me about Cashman. To make that deal, he had to know 1) none of the pitchers he traded away would develop and more importantly, 2) that Montas would be healthy enough to help them, because if he wasn't going to be, they should've been traded for a pitcher who could've. So far Cashman has been lucky on the other side; none of the pitchers traded away have really broken through. Not yet. If they A's want to send Sears back I'll pay for the Uber. Careful. If the Yanks front office hears you they may try to swing this. Tightwads… |
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Post by noetsi on Aug 31, 2024 13:30:42 GMT -5
I don't think the yankee history of minor league players making it big on the Yankees leads to trust.
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 31, 2024 14:15:20 GMT -5
If they A's want to send Sears back I'll pay for the Uber. Sears has been OK but nothing special. He is pitching for a bad team, but he's also pitching in the best pitcher's park in the league. Doesn't mean he wouldn't become a top pitcher if the Rays or Astros picked him up, I guess. Sears or Rodon for the next four years.... Who are you pitcking ? |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Aug 31, 2024 14:20:31 GMT -5
Sears has been OK but nothing special. He is pitching for a bad team, but he's also pitching in the best pitcher's park in the league. Doesn't mean he wouldn't become a top pitcher if the Rays or Astros picked him up, I guess. Sears or Rodon for the next four years.... Who are you pitcking ? Well, that's not really an option. And I'm still not sure that Rodon won't come out of the other side of the power pitcher's mid-career crisis as a decent rotation starter, as CC did. |
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Post by qimqam on Aug 31, 2024 15:40:25 GMT -5
Sears has been OK but nothing special. He is pitching for a bad team, but he's also pitching in the best pitcher's park in the league. Doesn't mean he wouldn't become a top pitcher if the Rays or Astros picked him up, I guess. Sears or Rodon for the next four years.... Who are you pitcking ? Rodon for sure ... at least he has been good at times ... even dominant Sears has never been good |
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 31, 2024 16:42:18 GMT -5
Sears or Rodon for the next four years.... Who are you pitcking ? Rodon for sure ... at least he has been good at times ... even dominant Sears has never been good Were you the poster on the YES Board who told me that Rodon was better than Cole ? Regardless, look at the numbers. Sears was much better in '23 and is having a better year in '24. |
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Post by ypaterson on Aug 31, 2024 16:49:43 GMT -5
Sears or Rodon for the next four years.... Who are you pitcking ? Well, that's not really an option. And I'm still not sure that Rodon won't come out of the other side of the power pitcher's mid-career crisis as a decent rotation starter, as CC did. What we know for sure is that he'll collect over $100 M. |
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Post by qimqam on Sept 1, 2024 9:13:13 GMT -5
Rodon for sure ... at least he has been good at times ... even dominant Sears has never been good Were you the poster on the YES Board who told me that Rodon was better than Cole ? Regardless, look at the numbers. Sears was much better in '23 and is having a better year in '24. To Answer your question ... I have no idea? But I can tell you that between 2021-2022 Rodon was absolutely without question better than Gerrit Cole. Sears and Rodon have very similar numbers ... one can dominate a game the other can not ... One is pitching under intense pressure the other is not ... So my answer stays the same ... Rodon for sure |
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Post by Max on Sept 1, 2024 9:53:21 GMT -5
Sears has been OK but nothing special. He is pitching for a bad team, but he's also pitching in the best pitcher's park in the league. Doesn't mean he wouldn't become a top pitcher if the Rays or Astros picked him up, I guess. Sears or Rodon for the next four years.... Who are you pitcking ?
Rodon. I could be wrong, but I think Sears would be a better pitcher pitching out of the bullpen.
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