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Post by Max on Sept 2, 2024 10:52:27 GMT -5
In my opinion, only if such hitter has 2 strikes on him, and in that case such hitter should protect the plate by looking for the fastball and adjusting to the change up. A good hitter can sit on a fastball and adjust to a breaking ball. That's the key to a good changeup... can't adjust to it.
Yep, but wouldn't you agree that even a good changeup when it's thrown so many times in a row can be easier to recognize and adjust to?
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Post by Max on Sept 2, 2024 11:01:19 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents.....The Yankees have as good of a chance to win it all as any team. Right now, there doesn't seem to be a dominate MLB team. Looks like every team has flaws. 1 of the Yankees flaws is winning vs .500 or sub .500 teams. The good news is that the Yankees seem to play better when they face good teams as they will in the postseason. In the postseason, in my opinion, the hot team usually wins. agree. but their performance over this recent span against some lesser teams doesn't inspire championship confidence. much too much wheel spinning and getting shut down by lesser pitchers. soto's in the middle of his first extended slump and judge has cooled as well. You're right. I'm not going to predict if the Yankees can win or can't win a world series. Winning a world series is hard. But the Yankees are a good team and have been a good team for a long time, as a fan I'm thankful for that. I think we're both old enough to remember when the Yankees had some bad teams for a few years in a row.
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Post by Max on Sept 2, 2024 11:10:04 GMT -5
Glad I’m in Galveston today and missed being part of this game thread. Too much negativity for me. Might as well invite Posadafan back. If this continues, may need to cull a couple more newcomers, Kaybli. Misery may love company but not here. Describing poor play is one thing, predicting poor play for the future gets old fast. Ye who abandon all hope may walk that path alone. Let’s start with the ignore button and hope things improve. Most of the negativity comes from a few clueless ex-YES board posters who had their own private "Chat" sandbox to piss & moan in...separate from the game threads. Unfortunately there's no such thing here, so they've used the game threads here to do so. Too bad...miss the good, knowledgeable ex-YES posters who actually had something to contribute.
What's funny is that in all the years that I was a YES message board member I was only in the chat room once. I was curious so I clicked on the link and the chatroom was empty, my guess it was because there was no game at that time. I saved my complaints and praise for the game thread.
To each their own, but I try not to look at the Yankees through rose colored Yankee glasses. I share my opinions, some opinions are criticism when I think the criticism is justified. But at the same time I try not to overdue it with negativity. As I have said many times, for me the bottom line is that watching MLB is entertainment, no need to lose sleep over it.
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Post by Max on Sept 2, 2024 11:13:56 GMT -5
It's so weird how sometimes the Yankees just look so dominant and in control but other times they look terrible. First game in this and the Washington series looking great then in both series the next two games just turned into disasters. Yep, the Yankees flopped vs the Nats and Cards, but they played well vs the Phillies and Indians.
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Post by chiyankee on Sept 2, 2024 11:24:06 GMT -5
Tough day for Judge. 0-4 with a walk and 3 K's. Glad I’m in Galveston today and missed being part of this game thread. Too much negativity for me. Might as well invite Posadafan back. If this continues, may need to cull a couple more newcomers, Kaybli. Misery may love company but not here. Describing poor play is one thing, predicting poor play for the future gets old fast. Ye who abandon all hope may walk that path alone. Let’s start with the ignore button and hope things improve. One difference, I think Posadafan just liked antagonizing certain board members. The posters in this game thread just seem to be frustrated about how lousy the Yankees have been playing and different people express that different ways.
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Post by azbob643 on Sept 2, 2024 11:26:39 GMT -5
A good hitter can sit on a fastball and adjust to a breaking ball. That's the key to a good changeup... can't adjust to it.
Yep, but even a good changeup when it's thrown so many times in a row can be easier to recognize and adjust to.
Agreed...I'm not saying he doesn't throw it too much, but it seems to work for him more often than not.
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Post by azbob643 on Sept 2, 2024 11:52:37 GMT -5
Most of the negativity comes from a few clueless ex-YES board posters who had their own private "Chat" sandbox to piss & moan in...separate from the game threads. Unfortunately there's no such thing here, so they've used the game threads here to do so. Too bad...miss the good, knowledgeable ex-YES posters who actually had something to contribute.
What's funny is that in all the years that I was a YES message board member I was only in the chat room once. I was curious so I clicked on the link and the chatroom was empty, my guess it was because there was no game at that time. I saved my complaints and praise for the game thread.
To each their own, but I try not to look at the Yankees through rose colored Yankee glasses. I share my opinions, some opinions are criticism when I think the criticism is justified. But at the same time I try not to overdue it with negativity. As I have said many times, for me the bottom line is that watching MLB is entertainment, no need to lose sleep over it.
I believe the YES chat room was used primarily for real-time game commentary, usually with a few regular participants. Occasionally "Jon/Jonah" would jump into the game threads to bolster his opinions by citing some "info" he'd picked up from the chat. As a long time fan, I'm at the point where I don't get too up/down with Yankee wins or losses, as I did at one time. Like you, it's entertainment...nothing to have a stroke over. There's absolutely nothing wrong with legit, objective criticism if warranted. But I'm not a fan of nitpicking every little misplay. I don't believe there's a player in the game who hasn't made an error...mental or physical. Personal attacks and insults is where the line is crossed for me. What kind of person would refer to a player as "a waste of skin"?
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Post by anthonyd46 on Sept 2, 2024 14:30:32 GMT -5
I think the whole landscape of sports has changed in the last five years or so. Growing up these teams would just dominate for a long period of time and it was great being a fan of them and having that experience.
However lately some might come here and there like the Chiefs, Patriots, Astros, etc but that's usually because they have this once in a lifetime talent in the team. Mahomes, Brady, Verlander, etc.
I think the frustration here is the Yankees for the last few years have had that once in a lifetime talent in Aaron Judge and he just keeps getting better!
Then you add Soto who is elite (He's not judge but he's still elite) and on paper it's like they should be dominating this league.
However baseball isn't like the other sports. Once in a lifetime players in this time and age in baseball aren't going to guaranteed championships. Even the Astros only have one since 2019. I think the frustration is more of the Yankees aren't even competing for one in 15 years. Least the Astros can say they've played in multiple World Series even if they didn't win them all.
So yea it sucks but my point is other than the Astros no one else is really even making it to the World Series consistently. You can't expect these 100+ win teams yearly with the third wild card causing bad free agency and limited trade deadlines.
Gotta just make it in and hope it's enough. The years of 1998 Yankees type teams might be gone.
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Post by bumper on Sept 2, 2024 14:31:45 GMT -5
Yep, but even a good changeup when it's thrown so many times in a row can be easier to recognize and adjust to.
Agreed...I'm not saying he doesn't throw it too much, but it seems to work for him more often than not. certainly has had success. was on a great run. but i agree w someone like john flaherty when he says if you keep throwing the same pitch, the next one has to be better than the last one. you make a mistake - boom. thought on that bases clearing double that 6 changes in a row was too much. no matter how good the delivery is, the batter begins to recognize it. when is a change no longer a change.
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Post by azbob643 on Sept 2, 2024 14:40:30 GMT -5
Agreed...I'm not saying he doesn't throw it too much, but it seems to work for him more often than not. certainly has had success. was on a great run. but i agree w someone like john flaherty when he says if you keep throwing the same pitch, the next one has to be better than the last one. you make a mistake - boom. thought on that bases clearing double that 6 changes in a row was too much. no matter how good the delivery is, the batter begins to recognize it. when is a change no longer a change. Someone here made the accurate observation that for most pitchers the change is set up with good fastballs. With Kahnle the opposite is the case. That said, a good change should be indistinguishable from a fastball, but a hitter may anticipate & time it. Hitting is timing; good pitching is disrupting timing.
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Post by bumper on Sept 2, 2024 15:00:11 GMT -5
What's funny is that in all the years that I was a YES message board member I was only in the chat room once. I was curious so I clicked on the link and the chatroom was empty, my guess it was because there was no game at that time. I saved my complaints and praise for the game thread.
To each their own, but I try not to look at the Yankees through rose colored Yankee glasses. I share my opinions, some opinions are criticism when I think the criticism is justified. But at the same time I try not to overdue it with negativity. As I have said many times, for me the bottom line is that watching MLB is entertainment, no need to lose sleep over it.
I believe the YES chat room was used primarily for real-time game commentary, usually with a few regular participants. Occasionally "Jon/Jonah" would jump into the game threads to bolster his opinions by citing some "info" he'd picked up from the chat. As a long time fan, I'm at the point where I don't get too up/down with Yankee wins or losses, as I did at one time. Like you, it's entertainment...nothing to have a stroke over. There's absolutely nothing wrong with legit, objective criticism if warranted. But I'm not a fan of nitpicking every little misplay. I don't believe there's a player in the game who hasn't made an error...mental or physical. Personal attacks and insults is where the line is crossed for me. What kind of person would refer to a player as "a waste of skin"? once in a while i would peek in at the "chat". mostly to check up on jonah . but watching the game, don't particularly need a PBP breakdown. i see it. maybe it works for others. think having the "chat" allowed for a more free flowing conversation and interaction in the game thread.
regarding negativity, think the 3 of us are more or less on the same page. i'm fine w legit criticism but the senseless trashing of players and even the manager pushes me over the edge. i have too much respect for what they do. and yeah they're not all created equal but there've been times when a grisham or trevino is up and seeing "rally over" posts before a pitch is thrown. guarantee judge or soto believe in all their teammates.
and as much as i "bleed" pinstripes and root hard, at the end of the day it's entertainment. i wake up the next morning. and i try to take my fan emotions out of understanding the game particularly with in-game decisions. while i don't always agree, as long as he's not just throwing darts at the board i can usually understand "the why". boone, in this case, has lived more baseball than all of us combined.
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Post by azbob643 on Sept 2, 2024 15:21:52 GMT -5
think having the "chat" allowed for a more free flowing conversation and interaction in the game thread.
Agreed...
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